Did Kishi explain this?

[Superior]

Did Kishimoto ever explain how Obito was able to use Kamui without even activating his MS? Also, did Obito take control of the Kyuubi with 3 tomoe...? Did Kishimoto explain that either?
Just wondering cause I don't think that was ever cleared up for us

 

[kakashi owns all]

not explained and probs never will be

 

[Drakengard]

I don't think you need to have the MS activated to control the Kyuubi, just have it unlocked (like when Madara controlled the Kyuubi w/ his 3T eyes). Not certain though.

 

[Ciao]

He activated Mangekyou Sharingan when Rin died.

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EDIT: I believe he isn't limited to having to turn it on and off since he has Senju chakra.

 

[nibilbhai]

Actually, he always used MS to kamui. I don't know about that 3 tomoe kyuubi control part. Also, its confusing that Obito's sight didn't got blurry...

I don't think you need to have the MS activated to control the Kyuubi, just have it unlocked (like when Madara controlled the Kyuubi w/ his 3T eyes). Not certain though.

Madara never controlled the kyuubi with 3 tomoe. He was using his MS. Read the manga!

 

[Legendary Broly]

Nope not yet ..

 

[Drakengard]

Madara never controlled the kyuubi with 3 tomoe. He was using his MS. Read the manga!

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[iBon3]

It has never shown him using Kamui with 3 tomae. Show me a page where it does.

 

[Superior]

He activated Mangekyou Sharingan when Rin died.

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EDIT: I believe he isn't limited to having to turn it on and off since he has Senju chakra.

I'm getting pretty tired of the whole Hashirama DNA thing. I heard that Obito hasn't gone blind yet because he has Hashirama DNA. Now I hear he doesn't need to use MS to use Kamui for the same reason.
What does Hashirama DNA have to do with Sharingan techniques? Where does it say that Senju DNA does any of that...? Just wondering. If anything, it would make more sense to say Kishimoto just didn't put enough thought into it.

He is only human, after all. Maybe he forgot.

 

[iBon3]

I'm getting pretty tired of the whole Hashirama DNA thing. I heard that Obito hasn't gone blind yet because he has Hashirama DNA. Now I hear he doesn't need to use MS to use Kamui for the same reason.
What does Hashirama DNA have to do with Sharingan techniques? Where does it say that Senju DNA does any of that...? Just wondering. If anything, it would make more sense to say Kishimoto just didn't put enough thought into it.

He is only human, after all. Maybe he forgot.

Show me a page where he uses 3T to use Kamui..

 

[Superior]

Show me a page where he uses 3T to use Kamui..

Reread chapters 509-510. His Sharingan is at 3tomoe throughout his entire fight with Konan, and he uses Kamui more than once during that fight. Or do you mean to tell me that he actives his MS to use Kamui, then deactivates, then activates it to use Kamui again? No, that seems highly unlikely.

While we are on this topic, take a look at the scan below.

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Why does Obito have two sharingans? Seriously, more fail on Kishimoto's part. Unless there is an explanation for this?

 

[Drakengard]

Oh I thought you were talking about this

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Kishi could probably change it so that the MS is just an easy way for an Uchiha to obtain MS techniques like Choji's red pills and what not but I would hate for that to happen

^but at that picture I think he was slowly losing his light since he just used Izanagi. He didn't have the Rinnegan back then and he has a bunch of Sharingans in his lab so he probably transplanted that one

 

[iBon3]

Reread chapters 509-510. His Sharingan is at 3tomoe throughout his entire fight with Konan, and he uses Kamui more than once during that fight. Or do you mean to tell me that he actives his MS to use Kamui, then deactivates, then activates it to use Kamui again? No, that seems highly unlikely.

While we are on this topic, take a look at the scan below.

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Why does Obito have two sharingans? Seriously, more fail on Kishimoto's part. Unless there is an explanation for this?

During that fight with Konan, anytime he would use Kamui his eye was specifaclly blackened so that it wouldnt show his MS. And yes, that is exactly what I am saying, Kakashi has done it during the fight with Obito, Itachi did it during his fight with Sasuke, its a common thing, dont act like its some ridiculous idea coming out of left field that he doesnt have MS activated when hes not using an MS technique.

To your point about the eye. That is just a spare eye like Madara had, he only uses it for Izanagi. Remember that room full of sharingan? It is just one of those eyes, in case he ever needs to use that technique, it is not his original, nor does it serve any other purpose.

 

[Superior]

During that fight with Konan, anytime he would use Kamui his eye was specifaclly blackened so that it wouldnt show his MS. And yes, that is exactly what I am saying, Kakashi has done it during the fight with Obito, Itachi did it during his fight with Sasuke, its a common thing, dont act like its some ridiculous idea coming out of left field that he doesnt have MS activated when hes not using an MS technique.

To your point about the eye. That is just a spare eye like Madara had, he only uses it for Izanagi. Remember that room full of sharingan? It is just one of those eyes, in case he ever needs to use that technique, it is not his original, nor does it serve any other purpose.

When Kakashi turns on his MS, it stays on. Please, feel free to show me a scan or refer to me a chapter where he continuously activates, then deactivates his Mangekyo Sharingan. Same with Itachi. Show me a scan or refer me to a chapter where he does this.
What you're suggesting is that Obito turns his MS on, then turns it off every time he uses Kamui in that fight. Yes, I am saying that it is a ridiculous idea. Please, show me proof that someone else does this to prove me wrong.

 

[Theserpent]

Oh I thought you were talking about this

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Kishi could probably change it so that the MS is just an easy way for an Uchiha to obtain MS techniques like Choji's red pills and what not but I would hate for that to happen

^but at that picture I think he was slowly losing his light since he just used Izanagi. He didn't have the Rinnegan back then and he has a bunch of Sharingans in his lab so he probably transplanted that one

Madara ALREADY HAD MS by the time he confronted the Kyuubi. Just because he doesn't have it active doesn't mean he still can't control it.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

He said he obtained it at Kanabi bridge. I think he had it since then, but just didn't know it. Then it activated again when rin died, but this time he knew he had it. At kanabi bridge, i think it was an unconscious thing, since you know, boulders were kind of crushing him.

 

[Drakengard]

Hey, retard, Madara ALREADY HAD MS by the time he confronted the Kyuubi. Just because he doesn't have it active doesn't mean he still can't control it.

I don't think you need to have the MS activated to control the Kyuubi, just have it unlocked (like when Madara controlled the Kyuubi w/ his 3T eyes). Not certain though.

What do you mean? Didn't I say that? Or are you referencing something else?

 

[Theserpent]

What do you mean? Didn't I say that? Or are you referencing something else?

That's for someone else. I responded to the wrong person. Sorry for the error. I'll alter my post.

Edit: Actually that is wrong. I meant you bro. I just didn't see you correct your error.

 

[iBon3]

When Kakashi turns on his MS, it stays on. Please, feel free to show me a scan or refer to me a chapter where he continuously activates, then deactivates his Mangekyo Sharingan. Same with Itachi. Show me a scan or refer me to a chapter where he does this.
What you're suggesting is that Obito turns his MS on, then turns it off every time he uses Kamui in that fight. Yes, I am saying that it is a ridiculous idea. Please, show me proof that someone else does this to prove me wrong.

Fight with Tobi

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Later in this fight, not activated.

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Even later on (after several pages of him not having it), he reactivates it to use it.

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After this usage of MS, we see here, in the beginning of the next chapter, him without it activated, for he is no longer using it

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And then, what do you know, when he needs it to send Naruto into the other dimension. He activates it again

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He does it several more times later, but my points proven. When he doesnt need it, its not activated, its that simple.

 

[DESTRUCTO]

I'm getting pretty tired of the whole Hashirama DNA thing. I heard that Obito hasn't gone blind yet because he has Hashirama DNA. Now I hear he doesn't need to use MS to use Kamui for the same reason.
What does Hashirama DNA have to do with Sharingan techniques? Where does it say that Senju DNA does any of that...? Just wondering. If anything, it would make more sense to say Kishimoto just didn't put enough thought into it.

He is only human, after all. Maybe he forgot.

With Shisui's KA. The DNA could shorten the recharge time from 10 years to 24 hours. It hasn't been said that the DNA is what is keeping him from going blind.