[Discussion] Ron Paul-Why is he not president!

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You can't counter what Shadow said so you call him a blind moron.

So the only thing you can now is cherry pick parts of his argument and not the whole thing since you made it clear you can't hold your own in a debate without name calling someone

I already countered him and he choose to refuse facts.


If he thinks that what I see and wanting to have someone like Ron Paul run is a fantasy,then to me he is a moron.


Cause it can happen,but people like him choose government over freedom.




There is no such thing as the free market, you and I, as well as the rest of the country, are sold what those who have major buying power wish to sell us. They buy, pay & charge what they want. It's called corporate America. And as soon as one resource dries up they move on to the next. There is literally no freedom in the economy called the "free market" what so ever for individuals, only corporations to sell where they want and when they want to targeted towards who they want.

How do you think the crash of 2008 happened? What exactly do you believe we have been dealing with since that time economically?


Alright,I bite:

I know free market has been blamed for the recession and housing crisis. But are corporations and banks truly free to do business without government intervention? No that's the problem.

Subsidies and tax breaks targeting certain industries and corporations have existed for decades. Farm subsidies, have existed for most of the last century. We've had a central bank that sets interest rates for banks and controls monetary policy since 1914. To blame recent economic problems on the free-market is to ignore the fact that we have had an increasingly socialized economy for the last century.

So yes ,there is no free market,do to the fact with the government.


 
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he can die any second - my reason
That's the same answer a girl from Stanford University gave me for not supporting Ron Paul.
She idolizes Rick Santorum, so that alone was clear for me that she knew squat about politics.
Don't be the same, bro

@Jason: [video=youtube;8-SiYQ8s_6I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-SiYQ8s_6I[/video]

if only this were possible in america ... our own president would execute us by drone
8479mike 1 week geleden 19

The rich make money by doing these high risk gambles and when they fail they expect the regular people to pay for their mistakes. **** the banks we don't owe them shit!
TheRiiiight 1 week geleden 14
 
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I already countered him and he choose to refuse facts.

If he thinks that what I see and wanting to have someone like Ron Paul run is a fantasy,then to me he is a moron.

Cause it can happen,but people like him choose government over freedom.
Actually, it's very possible for a candidate like Paul to get elected - it's just that an end would have to be put to large campaign donors and objects like Super Packs to make the playing field level. However if that happened there is no way Paul would win to some one like Stein.

Think that's just my opinion? Consider what we've seen in the past few weeks with Obama and Romney.

Alright,I bite:

I know free market has been blamed for the recession and housing crisis.
I don't know any one who blamed the free markets - are you referring to what I said earlier? Because the economic crash of 2008 was due to Stock traders betting on housing mortgages.

But are corporations and banks truly free to do business without government intervention? No that's the problem.
Seriously? Your being serious? Who's feeding you this? Because the banks, stock brokers, lobbyists & CEO's - along with the people they employ - don't have a hard time gambling with our money. They are in fact FREE to do so. Which is one of the many problems with out economic system.

Subsidies and tax breaks targeting certain industries and corporations have existed for decades. Farm subsidies, have existed for most of the last century. We've had a central bank that sets interest rates for banks and controls monetary policy since 1914. To blame recent economic problems on the free-market is to ignore the fact that we have had an increasingly socialized economy for the last century.

So yes ,there is no free market,do to the fact with the government.
Sorry but, 'because the federal government' is not a retort for my initial rebuttal to your statements about free markets.

What I haven't told you yet is that I was a Ron Paul devotee - even voted for him in 2008. But the sad truth is that his ideas are inappropriate for the situation we are in as an economy and a society.

If you can answer my first statement about him [ ] and the gold standard I would be more than interested to see what you have to say.

Yet, I feel I should give you a video for a video —

 
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Thanks for bringing back old information I forgot over the months/years.

And I mean both ImmaculateShadow - WastelandSociety.
A good argument between you two.
 

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That's the same answer a girl from Stanford University gave me for not supporting Ron Paul.
She idolizes Rick Santorum, so that alone was clear for me that she knew squat about politics.
Don't be the same, bro

@Jason: [video=youtube;8-SiYQ8s_6I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-SiYQ8s_6I[/video]

if only this were possible in america ... our own president would execute us by drone
8479mike 1 week geleden 19

The rich make money by doing these high risk gambles and when they fail they expect the regular people to pay for their mistakes. **** the banks we don't owe them shit!
TheRiiiight 1 week geleden 14
Im not living in the USA , so i dont give a squat ;D

UK FTW
 

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Whats so wrong with the Gold standard as the video explained we're already bankrupt and the country isn't going to be able borrow money forever
From dictionary: The way un-educated Americans (generally rednecks, hicks, republicans, or very patriotic people) say America.

xd republicans..lol xd. The gold standard will bring unbalance in the power structure. Muammar Gadhaffi tried to implement a gold standard and unite all african nations. That would mean a huge financial and power collapse for the usa with their useless dollars. My knowledge on the golden standard ideal in America is limited since I studied it about 10 months back..so I'll leave it at that

edit: As long as we give the dollar value, the fed and such continue to reign
 

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Whats so wrong with the Gold standard as the video explained we're already bankrupt and the country isn't going to be able borrow money forever
Actually there nothing wrong with it paper money value is on the decline as it is, it's only a matter of time before the monetary value of paper declines to the point of abrupt bankruptcy
 

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What exactly is wrong with Romney and why was he such a horrible candidate?

Same with Obama the cons and pros of him..?
Other than his typical policies that didn't differe much from Obama's policies, he's just another crook that's part of the established puppet department. No real change. He's especially incompetent since he never had to struggle for a job or what. And calls the poor lazy
 

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Easy question, the social media most people don't do a background check or skim around for information on the candidates. This leaves social media to fill us in wrongfully so on on the cons absolutely no pros but cons, yeah basically social media screwed us. Fox-C-spain PBS
 
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