Sigh you just wont give up... Hoping the majority will say "yes" or "no", let me provide this thread with some actual facts and evidence, though you will probably just ignore, or not care when I prove you wrong....
First I must say, it is impossible to actually know Hashiramas age. We can only judge by pictures and images. However, what we do know, is Hiruzens age, when he became Hokage etc.. About Mito even less is known, but I will start with 3 major assumptions, without these nothing can be proven, but these assumption can't be proven either, and are just made using the general guesses of Naruto fans (including my own):
1. Uzumaki Mito and Hashirama Senju are the same age
2. Tobirama Senju is 5 years younger than Hashirama Senju.
(I say this since Sasuke is 5 years younger than Itachi, and it is a general assumption that Hashirama and Madara was the same age, and that Izuna was also 5 years younger than Madara, thus it is safe to assume the same for Tobirama)
3. Tobirama was about 20 years older than Hiruzen in this picture:
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Now it is highly questionable what their age was in this picture, but it is a general assumption that Hashirama/Madara was 25 when they made peace and founded Konoha.. Go look through time-lines for forums, if you want. It's really impossible to make anything 100 % sure...
Now my first evidence, from the 1st Databook using ShounenSukis translation about the 1st hokage:
Shodai Hokage (初代火影, Founding Fire Shadow)
Konoha, Hokage
Is the world at war, no matter what age...?
The founder of what became the great "Konohagakure no Sato"
Going back about 60 years from now... A shinobi with excelling power collected a great number of shinobi and established a new village. This shinobi was the Shodai Hokage. The founder of Konohagakure no Sato. However, this was a time when the world was at war. At the same time the village began to flourish, he lost his life.
Now my 2nd evidence from 1st Databook using ShounenSukis translation about the 2nd hokage:
The Nidaime is the Shodai's younger brother by blood, who inherited his brother's dying wish and was called "Hokage" after the Shodai died. He endeavoured in the founding of the Academy and the establishment of the village's organisational system. However, shortly thereafter the Shinobi World War broke out. He entrusted the wishes of the suppression of war and the prospering of the village to his successor and died a noble death.
Now tbh, I shouldn't need to say much more. Hiruzen is said to be 69 years old at the time of his death in the 2nd and 3rd databook. So this makes Hiruzen 9 when Konoha was founded. I think we can all agree that he was about 20 when he became hokage. The picture I showed above with the 2nd and 3rd hokage was most likely the same year as Konoha was founded. The 1st hokage died before the 1st great war. His death was probably what made it start, since none would want to go to war against him.
Anyway going to the next part. Mito must have died when Kushina became jinchuriki. So her death mustve been about the time she joined the villages. So by the time she joined the academy, Mito had died, and she had the fox inside her:
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Minato and Kushina was in their mid 20's when they died. Which in turn can be used to prove when the 2nd war started, which was a few years after Kushina joined Konoha, since Kumos kidnap attempt on her was during it. Jeez, I might as well make a complete timeline when I'm on it....
Anyway I think I provided enough evidence now, to say the following:
IF Tobirama was 20 years older than Hiruzen, Mito was 25 years older than Hiruzen. Minato is aprox 25 when he dies. So Mito died about 15-20 years before this, lets just say 15. Thus concluding that after Mitos death was 15 years before Minatos death. Hiru lived 13 more years after Minatos death. So that makes 28 years more than Mito. So he lived 3 years more than her. Probably more. Again a lot of assumption, but this does not change 1 very important fact. Hiruzen died in battle, where he fought well, he was hokage while he died, and thus he must have had more years left in him. The other 2 team mates of his, the 2 elders, must be his age. They still live, and Hiru could also have lived now. Thus he could have lived a lot longer than Mito... And Onoki is older than Hiru, and you can deduce this on your own from all the evidence I provided... Have a good day..
Sigh you just wont give up... Hoping the majority will say "yes" or "no", let me provide this thread with some actual facts and evidence, though you will probably just ignore, or not care when I prove you wrong....
First I must say, it is impossible to actually know Hashiramas age. We can only judge by pictures and images. However, what we do know, is Hiruzens age, when he became Hokage etc.. About Mito even less is known, but I will start with 3 major assumptions, without these nothing can be proven, but these assumption can't be proven either, and are just made using the general guesses of Naruto fans (including my own):
1. Uzumaki Mito and Hashirama Senju are the same age
2. Tobirama Senju is 5 years younger than Hashirama Senju.
(I say this since Sasuke is 5 years younger than Itachi, and it is a general assumption that Hashirama and Madara was the same age, and that Izuna was also 5 years younger than Madara, thus it is safe to assume the same for Tobirama)
3. Tobirama was about 20 years older than Hiruzen in this picture:
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Now it is highly questionable what their age was in this picture, but it is a general assumption that Hashirama/Madara was 25 when they made peace and founded Konoha.. Go look through time-lines for forums, if you want. It's really impossible to make anything 100 % sure...
Now my first evidence, from the 1st Databook using ShounenSukis translation about the 1st hokage:
Shodai Hokage (初代火影, Founding Fire Shadow)
Konoha, Hokage
Is the world at war, no matter what age...?
The founder of what became the great "Konohagakure no Sato"
Going back about 60 years from now... A shinobi with excelling power collected a great number of shinobi and established a new village. This shinobi was the Shodai Hokage. The founder of Konohagakure no Sato. However, this was a time when the world was at war. At the same time the village began to flourish, he lost his life.
Now my 2nd evidence from 1st Databook using ShounenSukis translation about the 2nd hokage:
The Nidaime is the Shodai's younger brother by blood, who inherited his brother's dying wish and was called "Hokage" after the Shodai died. He endeavoured in the founding of the Academy and the establishment of the village's organisational system. However, shortly thereafter the Shinobi World War broke out. He entrusted the wishes of the suppression of war and the prospering of the village to his successor and died a noble death.
Now tbh, I shouldn't need to say much more. Hiruzen is said to be 69 years old at the time of his death in the 2nd and 3rd databook. So this makes Hiruzen 9 when Konoha was founded. I think we can all agree that he was about 20 when he became hokage. The picture I showed above with the 2nd and 3rd hokage was most likely the same year as Konoha was founded. The 1st hokage died before the 1st great war. His death was probably what made it start, since none would want to go to war against him.
Anyway going to the next part. Mito must have died when Kushina became jinchuriki. So her death mustve been about the time she joined the villages. So by the time she joined the academy, Mito had died, and she had the fox inside her:
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Minato and Kushina was in their mid 20's when they died. Which in turn can be used to prove when the 2nd war started, which was a few years after Kushina joined Konoha, since Kumos kidnap attempt on her was during it. Jeez, I might as well make a complete timeline when I'm on it....
Anyway I think I provided enough evidence now, to say the following:
IF Tobirama was 20 years older than Hiruzen, Mito was 25 years older than Hiruzen. Minato is aprox 25 when he dies. So Mito died about 15-20 years before this, lets just say 15. Thus concluding that after Mitos death was 15 years before Minatos death. Hiru lived 13 more years after Minatos death. So that makes 28 years more than Mito. So he lived 3 years more than her. Probably more. Again a lot of assumption, but this does not change 1 very important fact. Hiruzen died in battle, where he fought well, he was hokage while he died, and thus he must have had more years left in him. The other 2 team mates of his, the 2 elders, must be his age. They still live, and Hiru could also have lived now. Thus he could have lived a lot longer than Mito... And Onoki is older than Hiru, and you can deduce this on your own from all the evidence I provided... Have a good day..
It's sad to lose a discussion to well formed arguments, but if you are too childish to admit, whether you are wrong or not, you should stay out of internet forums, or nobody will ever start to take you serious, and you will probably lose your reason to be at the forum, at least given you want to be taken seriously..
It's sad to lose a discussion to well formed arguments, but if you are too childish to admit, whether you are wrong or not, you should stay out of internet forums, or nobody will ever start to take you serious, and you will probably lose your reason to be at the forum, at least given you want to be taken seriously..
Lol seriously, if that is your best response, there is no reason to answer a well formed argument with "stfu", it's not really looking good for you. Apparently nobody has proved a thing regarding her age, and you know why? Because people don't care one bit about it, since it's not important, beside the fact that the manga actually would agree with me. I know Mito is supposed to have lived longer, but who knows. She might have overused certain Uzumaki techniques that has drained her life force over time, we don't know. Fact is that if she was same age as Hashirama, and Tobirama was about 5 years younger than Hashirama, then Hiruzen DID outlive her.
Now I don't really care what you say regarding Sasuke and Karin, since none of us can say what happens if you eat someones chakra. All I know is that the Gin/Kin bros did it with the nine tails, and they obviously gained a lot of it. Now they most likely ate a lot more than Sasuke, but Kishi has already proven with this that it is possible that Sasuke has Uzumaki DNA already. Why else would he make that story, and later claim Karin to be Uzumaki? And I'm pretty sure that you said that DNA give chakra, so you can't really say otherwise? Besides, as I already said. DNA is also part of someones chakra, cause if it wasn't it would be impossible for Madara to gain mokuton. U_U
But as I said, don't bother responding with idiotic comments that goes to show your intellectual level, and I am yet to see a "good" response for any doubts or proofs against you in any of your threads. Making valid proofs for your arguments, and defending your topic is alfa omega, when making "theories" on manga stuff..
Btw. when "I" or anybody else makes some sort of "guess" you normally just say an age to make it easier, but it will always be within some sort of scale, like +/- 5 or 10 years. So it isn't unlikely that Mito might have outlived Hiruzen, which is why I in the end of my post, said that Hiruzen could still have lived some years, thus he could have outlived her, given that my "guess" was under scaled, but it might also be other way around..
Mito had a longer life then Hiruzen she died because kyuubi was extracted from her and as she became older her ability to supress kyuubi weakened then the solution was to have another jinchuuriki which is why she died, if she was no jinchuriki she would probably lived longer
