The Sound Ninja's Strength

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This is a thread to discuss the untimely deaths of the Sound 5; as well as Dosu, Kin, and Zaku, and what each could potentially have been capable of. I personally believe that had these 8 ninja lived, each of them would be extremely powerful shinobi in their own rights.

Had their abilities been developed, Tayuya, Dosu, and Zaku would be monsters on the battlefield because of their choice in fighting style. These 3 ninja preferred to fight with a force that is nearly impossible to counter; Sound. By utilizing Sound Waves, these ninja were able to assault their opponents with attacks that generally could not be defended against. In fact, had their abilities been developed, they could arguably pose a threat to the likes of Susanoo, as Kabuto demonstrated.

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Dosu's signature Resonating Echo Drill would make him one of the most dangerous Hand to Hand combatants in the Narutoverse due to its attack nature.

Dosu was even fast enough to attack Rock Lee with this powerful taijutsu, who was known as one the best taijutsu specialists at the time, and was also commended as the fastest genin.

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The Melody Arm, a porous metal device located on his arm, is used to amplify the sound waves from arm movements to attack his opponent. By generating enough sound, Dosu can use his chakra to redirect the waves in midair to his intended target. By damaging the victim's inner ear, the victim is rendered off-balance and nauseous. In the first instance of this, Rock Lee is rendered physically sick by the attack.

Whereas Dosu's Hand to Hand skills would be a major force, Zaku Abumi would be a dangerous ninja to fight long range.

Imagine all of the powerful long range techniques that could have been derived from something this devastating.

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Zaku creates a massive gust of cutting wind, even more powerful than his Decapitating Airwaves technique, that is capable of levelling the surrounding area, wiping out anything in its path.

I personally think that Tayuya was one hell of a fighter.

Doki Demons-The Doki are three beings summoned by Tayuya. Their eyes and ears are covered and their mouths are sewn shut, a reference to the three wise monkeys. By playing specific melodies on her Demonic Flute, Tayuya can control them, each melody causing them to perform different actions.
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These three summons make Tayuya a deadly foe.

Demonic Flute: Phantom Sound Chains-An illusion that relies on the sound of the flute. Whoever hears it will be assailed by the vivid sensation that their limbs have been fastened with sturdy ropes, thus becoming unable to move about freely. Even with physical intervention from an outside force, the body is robbed of all mobility, and consciousness itself progressively fades away. At the same time, they are fed morbid hallucinations, which makes it also possible to run them down mentally. Given that the means of transmission is sound-based, it has a large range of effectiveness, on top of which it can be applied even without knowledge of the enemy's position, which makes for an exceedingly convenient technique.
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This is arguably one of the best Genjutsu in the series. As you can see in the description, this genjutsu is extremely powerful. This genjutsu in essence is like a weaker Tsukuyomi, but it has something Tsukuyomi does not. It is transmitted through Sound, not sight; making it much more versatile than Tsukuyomi and much easier to cast.

Cursed Seal-Tayuya also possessed a cursed seal, enhancing her abilities. I'm not sure if her Cursed Seal was at its final stage; and if it wasn't, imagine how much more powerful she could have become.

Demonic Flute: Illusionary Warriors Manipulating Melody-Using her flute, Tayuya controls her three Doki from a distance without using words. By playing specific notes, her Doki moves and acts in specific ways. Tayuya can also change the melody if the opponent figures out the keys.
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This jutsu is like puppet control in a sense. Tayuya hides in the shadows and controls her summons as they do all of the fighting. While trying to fight off the Demons, Tayuya's opponent would also have to locate her in order to fight her. As the description says, even if the opponent figures out the attack patterns, Tayuya simply has to change her melody; making it harder for Tayuya's opponent to fight the demons. Futhermore, the demons are blindfolded, and their ears are covered, So they are generally immune to genjutsu that are invoked through sound and sight.

Revolt of the Demon World-Tayuya manipulates her three Doki with the sound of her flute. Her melody releases materialised spirits, which are actually special chakra sealed inside of the Doki. The materialised spirits are composed almost entirely of mental energy, so the chakra is in an unstable state. Therefore, they crave physical energy, so they hunt for their prey endlessly.
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This is yet another obstacle for Tayuya's opponent to overcome.

All in all, Tayuya was a dangerous chick to fight. Imagine what she could have accomplished if she had lived.

Please keep in mind that this thread is to discuss all of the Sound 5's potential, and all of the Sound Genin's potential.
I only talked about Dosu, Zaku, and Tayuya because they focus mainly on Sound as a means of combat.

Here are a few questions I would like to see your opinions on.
Who was your favorite/least favorite Sound Ninja?
Who do you think was strongest/weakest?
Who's final fight did you like the most/Hate the most?
And of course, I wanna see what you guys think of their potential. Could they have been strong Ninja?
Who would win in a fight between _____ and _____?

Thanks in advance for reading all this, and let the discussions begin. :)
 
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Tayuya's genjutsu actually CAN be broken with outside influence as that's exactly how shikimaru broke it by using his shadow to break his own finger to use the pain of it to break out.
 

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My fav Sound Ninja was Kimimaro ( even though he's not on your list).
Yes, I think they might have become great ninja if they lived longer.
Weakest - Jirobo.
The one that will win will depend on the match up.
 

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Tayuya's genjutsu actually CAN be broken with outside influence as that's exactly how shikimaru broke it by using his shadow to break his own finger to use the pain of it to break out.

I remember when that happened. I'll have to change this in the Original Post then.
 

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Agreed these guys got trolled big time. They were also complete wierdos as far as characters go.
 

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Who was your favorite/least favorite Sound Ninja? Kimimaro, without a doubt xd if he's not included, then it'd have to be Zaku. Don't know why, I just always liked that guy. Least favorite would have to be the fat guy or the Team Dosu chick
Who do you think was strongest/weakest? Strongest: Kimimaro Weakest: the fat sound 4 or the girl from team Dosu
Who's final fight did you like the most/Hate the most? Kimimaro vs Naruto/Lee/Gaara :D
And of course, I wanna see what you guys think of their potential. Could they have been strong Ninja? Kimimaro would have been amazing, and I think Dosu, Kidomaro and Sakon might have become very powerful if they hadn't died so early.
 

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the sound ninja where increadably strong for there age, if they had lived onto Shippuden I believe they all would be on the level with current Neji if not abit stronger.
 

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My fav Sound Ninja was Kimimaro ( even though he's not on your list).
Yes, I think they might have become great ninja if they lived longer.
Weakest - Jirobo.
The one that will win will depend on the match up.

So lets say the matchup is Kidomaru vs Kimimaro.

Kimimaro has shown that he is a close-mid range fighter, whereas Kidomaru is a Long range fighter.

Lets give Kidomaru the terrain advantage and say they are in the same forest he fought Neji in.

Distance is 40 meters.

Who wins? Why?

You guys might want to reread some of the older chapters for this matchup :)
 
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Who was your favorite/least favorite Sound Ninja? I guess Tayuya and Kimimaro were my favourites. My least favourites are probably Kin and Jiroubo.

Who do you think was strongest/weakest? The weakest was Kin followed by Zaku.

Who's final fight did you like the most/Hate the most? I like Kimimaro's fight the most and I didn't hate anyone's fight.
And of course, I wanna see what you guys think of their potential. Could they have been strong Ninja? Sure they could have become jounin level if they lived long enough. With CS mastery they may have reached high jounin level power wise. Kimimaro had the potential to become a kage level ninja. I don't think Kin had much potential though and neither did Zaku.

Who would win in a fight between _____ and _____? Okay let's see, Zaku VS Kin. Zaku wins because his sound blasts can reflect Kin's projectiles.

Now that I think about it, Tayuya could have become an anti Uchiha material as her Doki demons could absorb susanoo's chakra and sound based genjutsu is deadly even for an Uchiha. She could do all this without having to look into her opponent's eye.
 

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So lets say the matchup is Kidomaru vs Kimimaro.

Kimimaro has shown that he is a close-mid range fighter, whereas Kidomaru is a Long range fighter.

Lets give Kidomaru the terrain advantage and say they are in the same forest he fought Neji in.

Distance is 40 meters.

Who wins? Why?

You guys might want to reread some of the older chapters for this matchup :)

Not really necesary, because Kimimaro was said to easily be able to defeat all four of them at once. Not that I'm de-hyping them, I'm just a Kimimaro fan, and he was easily implied to be low to mid Kage level in part one. If he had survived to Shippuden, he would have definitely been quite powerful. The others would have varied between low Kage (Kidōmaru) to low Jōnin (Jirōbō).
 

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Not really necesary, because Kimimaro was said to easily be able to defeat all four of them at once. Not that I'm de-hyping them, I'm just a Kimimaro fan, and he was easily implied to be low to mid Kage level in part one. If he had survived to Shippuden, he would have definitely been quite powerful. The others would have varied between low Kage (Kidōmaru) to low Jōnin (Jirōbō).
Wait how is Kimimaro implied to be a low kage level ninja? You are seriously overrating him. I do agree he'd have become a kage level ninja if he had lived longer. He had tons of potential if he didn't succumb to his disease although he'd just become Oro's next vessel so he was doomed either way.

Also Kimimaro was the strongest of the sound five but he never defeated all four at once. That was just made up by the anime. None of that is supported by the manga.
 

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Wait how is Kimimaro implied to be a low kage level ninja? You are seriously overrating him.

Kabuto, being an elite Jōnin level, said Kimimaro was stronger than himself, and that their existed nobody in the Leaf (after Hiruzen was killed) that could possibly stop him.

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Also Kimimaro was the strongest of the sound five but he never defeated all four at once. That was just made up by the anime. None of that is supported by the manga.



it might not be much, or that detailed in the manga but the fact that his is talking down to tayuya, as if he can kill her with little effort most likely means that he can fight them all at the same time and beat them all how with little effort.
 

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Kabuto, being an elite Jōnin level, said Kimimaro was stronger than himself, and that their existed nobody in the Leaf (after Hiruzen was killed) that could possibly stop him.

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Well played sir.

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Kimimaro, the best and undoubtedly the coolest, is not on your list of potential? This is some bullshit man.
 

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Why didn't you read the post lol. It says at the top that they all had major potential and room for improvement.
I put at the bottom that I only did Tayuya, Dosu, and Zaku because they focused primarily on Sound as a means of combat.
Don't get me wrong, Kimimaro was the strongest. I would also like to say that we shouldn't overhype Kimimaro because even though he was the strongest, Tayuya and Kidomaru would definitely give him a run for his money. I don't think he would beat any of them with complete ease based on what we have seen. Sakon and Ukon would also give him a run for his money.
 

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they were hella strong for their young age

even edo itachi and EMS Sasuke had problem with their strength

Tayuya's genjutsu owned itachi and he asked for Sasuke help even as an edo lol

this is how great Orochimaru was
a great teacher
 

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Kabuto, being an elite Jōnin level, said Kimimaro was stronger than himself, and that their existed nobody in the Leaf (after Hiruzen was killed) that could possibly stop him.

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None of that implies Kimimaro was kage level. We saw him fight him evenly matched against Gaara, who at this point wasn't kage level. I say healthy Kimimaro is high jounin and sick Kimimaro is mid jounin. I guess you could say that healthy Kimimaro is low kage level based on hype but healthy Kimimaro doesn't exist so he is a mere fantasy. Also are you implying that what Kabuto said was 100% true? I'm quite sure Tsunade, Jiraiya, Kakashi and Gai were members of the village at that time so Kabuto's statement is totally off. There is no way that Kimimaro has even the slightest chance against Tsunade or Jiraiya. He does have a decent chance against part 1 Kakashi and part 1 Gai though.
 
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