Uchiha or Senju?

[Lightbringer]

kishi> you....nuff said...

And here proves where logic of a senju fails.

Kishi isn't the one who's saying all that....it's the characters and those characters were proven to be flawed. Thus, we know Hiruzen is not the God of Shinobi because that would mean Hiruzen>Hashi. A character within the narutoverse claimed that he was, doesn't mean he is.

Same thing with Hashi....Kabuto claimed he was The best of the best, but Kabuto said a lot of other things that weren't true either.

Tobi said he was Madara, guess how that worked out.

Actions speak louder than words

But Kishi himself in an interview said that Madara had no weaknesses.....that's not a character in the narutoverse saying that, it's Kishi himself this time. That's the difference.

and there goes senju logic down the drain.

 

[WarriorProof]

And here proves where logic of a senju fails.

Kishi isn't the one who's saying all that....it's the characters and those characters were proven to be flawed. Thus, we know Hiruzen is not the God of Shinobi because that would mean Hiruzen>Hashi. A character within the narutoverse claimed that he was, doesn't mean he is.

Same thing with Hashi....Kabuto claimed he was The best of the best, but Kabuto said a lot of other things that weren't true either.

Tobi said he was Madara, guess how that worked out.

Actions speak louder than words

But Kishi himself in an interview said that Madara had no weaknesses.....that's not a character in the narutoverse saying that, it's Kishi himself this time. That's the difference.

and there goes senju logic down the drain.

i havent seen any uchiha logic do any better....-_-
and it hasn't been proven wrong that hashi is the best of the best..so until then..i will continue to actually use logic from the manga...

 

[Lightbringer]

i havent seen any uchiha logic do any better....-_-
and it hasn't been proven wrong that hashi is the best of the best..so until then..i will continue to actually use logic from the manga...

Well you just did and I never said that he wasn't......but you just proved my point, senju's only logic is just hype.

 

[WarriorProof]

Well you just did and I never said that he wasn't......but you just proved my point, senju's only logic is just hype.

if the manga has stated it..then its true unless proven wrong...and we dont only use hype.
for example...we know what hashi is capable of...by seeing what madara is doing..that isnt hype is it?
as for tobirama..i cant say much...but we do know what he is capable of doing to..

 

[Lightbringer]

if the manga has stated it..then its true unless proven wrong...and we dont only use hype.
for example...we know what hashi is capable of...by seeing what madara is doing..that isnt hype is it?
as for tobirama..i cant say much...but we do know what he is capable of doing to..

That just means he's powerful, but not the most powerful. All it is, is speculation. Questions are still left unanswered, such as: Can Madara maybe use mokuton better than Hashi? Did Hashi really defeat Madara or was it part of his plan to let him win? How much did Mito help Hashi during the battle? Etc.

And yes also Tobirama is just pure speculation....so you can't say that senju are the logical fanbase. There are both logical and illogical on either side, however........senju fanbase have a lesser foundation for solid evidence; whereas with the Uchiha we actually witnessed the feats first hand by the actual users and then choose to overhype them like Itachi with his Totsuka blade.

Seeing is believing.

 

[Kuroh]

fanbase?...is uchiha..
but the logical fanbase...is senju U_U

and this is why i cant respect some senju fans

 

[shelke]

And I can't understand how people can even like a character that's never shown in the flesh in the entire manga?

 

[WarriorProof]

That just means he's powerful, but not the most powerful. All it is, is speculation. Questions are still left unanswered, such as: Can Madara maybe use mokuton better than Hashi? Did Hashi really defeat Madara or was it part of his plan to let him win? How much did Mito help Hashi during the battle? Etc.

And yes also Tobirama is just pure speculation....so you can't say that senju are the logical fanbase. There are both logical and illogical on either side, however........senju fanbase have a lesser foundation for solid evidence; whereas with the Uchiha we actually witnessed the feats first hand by the actual users and then choose to overhype them like Itachi with his Totsuka blade.

Seeing is believing.

hmmmm....well said..so i guess we can both agree that both senju and uchiha logic is hype...?

and this is why i cant respect some senju fans

cant u take a joke..?...>_>

 

[Wolfang714]

fanbase?...is uchiha..
but the logical fanbase...is senju U_U

*Sigh* fanboy

On Topic: I dunno, Senju have an amazing life-force and are physically stronger than most. The Uchiha have those eyes though. I guess I'm going with Uchiha, but watch... the Senju will come out with some crazy technique.

 

['Toxic]

I can't choose. >__<

I want to say Uchiha for Sasuke and Itachi...

But Senju for Hashi, and Tsunade.

Really? aren't you forgetting Naruto? all Uzumaki's are senjus. So Nagato too.

 

[hola112233]

you can train your body but not your eyes
though not to the level of a senju but you can still get a lot of resilience

 

[Elio]

Really? aren't you forgetting Naruto? all Uzumaki's are senjus. So Nagato too.

Well he only said Senju so I wasn't counting the Uzumakis. ~_~

 

[Thundercles]

Senju, FTW.
Uchiha are cool, but their talents are wasted on selfishness and childish ambition. Senju were peaceful and a lot more mature.

Uchiha exceptions: Itachi and Shisui.
Senju: Pre-Hokage Tsunade.

 

[Venom]

Uchiha all day everyday! :scorch:

~THE REAL UCHIHA CLAN

 

[Thundercles]

Pssh even Itachi himself was fed up with the Uchiha's b.s.

 

[Shikamaru1994]

Senju is just a boring clan.... Like besides Hashi and Tobirama... theres really nothing. With uchihas u got Itachi, the most selfless and greatest shinobi to have ever lived. No other clan can compete with them

 

[End of Days]

neither one U_U

 

[Styles]

have to say Uchiha while it seems Senju only have 1 powerful shinobi and that's hashi

 

[TurrinB]

I don't consider myself a fan of the Uchiha Clan in general, but I voted for them, because we only have 1 Senju with any real characterization; Hashirama. And while right now Hashirama is my favorite Hokage, I still like 3 Uchiha (Shisui, Obito, Sasuke), so I got to give it to Uchiha overall.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Hashirama> every single Uchiha