Anakin Skywalker
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First of all THIS IS NOT A VERSUS THREAD sorry if you were deceived by the title
The goal of this thread is to convey the opinion that we should not encourage any kind of versus thread or Top 10 Strongest person Discussion which are based on " HYPE "
I have seen a lot of threads in NB where someone would say "Prime" Hiruzen would stomp XXXXX person or "Healthy" Itachi would beat YYYYY person or "Healthy" Nagato owns ZZZZZZ person, these threads are always filled with trolls haters and fanboys and we never get a solution.
The reason for not getting a solution is we dont know what they are capable of.
Let me explain
Prime Hizuren:
we dont know know how much his strength and speed and stamina would increase in his prime. so no one can acurately say he was "X" times more powerful that when he fought orochimare.
Yes he was called "God of Shinobi", "Professor" and ya my grandmother said i was "the best boy in the world"(i know the difference between my grand mother saying and Kishimoto writing ....it was for fun)
i.e it was basically written by kishimoto to give more hype and appeal to the character.
Healthy Itachi:
Again no solid information on how much his stamina would increase. Currently he has 2.5 for stamina but what should we give as stamina for healthy itachi 3,3.5,4,4.5.. no one knows for sure(unless you are kishimoto). we also dont know how long would he be able to hold the susanoo if he was healthy.
Healthy Nagato:
No solid information on the speed and mobility he would have if he was not crippled and no one knows how much more powerful would his attacks be
What i'm trying to say is without proper proof we cannot include them or an other characters in a versus thread or top ten.Not only the characters i've mentioned here ...any and all HYPE should be removed from a vs thread or top ten thread ....and it would be better if we neglect all assumptions or stretching the truth Hype
Its ok to discuss how much more powerful they would be in a discussion but using those assumptions in other thread is stretching it a bit too far and we are not kishimoto to just give random power up to our favorite character
Another painful thing is by saying that Prime Hiruzen,Healthy Itachi or Nagato would beat someone you are accepting that the Hiruzen,Itachi,nagato we saw in the manga would lose which is an insult to the things they have accomplished
To remind what the real Hiruzen,Itachi and Nagato can do
Hiruzen:
Itachi:
Nagato:
Ofcourse many other characters are Hyped but since these are the most frequent once i have taken them for my example.
So no offense Hiruzen,Itachi,Nagato fans i do not hate any of these character and plz dont spam or make this into a hate thread
if you think i'm wrong or if you need any facts corrected reply rationally
The goal of this thread is to convey the opinion that we should not encourage any kind of versus thread or Top 10 Strongest person Discussion which are based on " HYPE "
I have seen a lot of threads in NB where someone would say "Prime" Hiruzen would stomp XXXXX person or "Healthy" Itachi would beat YYYYY person or "Healthy" Nagato owns ZZZZZZ person, these threads are always filled with trolls haters and fanboys and we never get a solution.
The reason for not getting a solution is we dont know what they are capable of.
Let me explain
Prime Hizuren:
we dont know know how much his strength and speed and stamina would increase in his prime. so no one can acurately say he was "X" times more powerful that when he fought orochimare.
Yes he was called "God of Shinobi", "Professor" and ya my grandmother said i was "the best boy in the world"(i know the difference between my grand mother saying and Kishimoto writing ....it was for fun)
i.e it was basically written by kishimoto to give more hype and appeal to the character.
Healthy Itachi:
Again no solid information on how much his stamina would increase. Currently he has 2.5 for stamina but what should we give as stamina for healthy itachi 3,3.5,4,4.5.. no one knows for sure(unless you are kishimoto). we also dont know how long would he be able to hold the susanoo if he was healthy.
Healthy Nagato:
No solid information on the speed and mobility he would have if he was not crippled and no one knows how much more powerful would his attacks be
What i'm trying to say is without proper proof we cannot include them or an other characters in a versus thread or top ten.Not only the characters i've mentioned here ...any and all HYPE should be removed from a vs thread or top ten thread ....and it would be better if we neglect all assumptions or stretching the truth Hype
Its ok to discuss how much more powerful they would be in a discussion but using those assumptions in other thread is stretching it a bit too far and we are not kishimoto to just give random power up to our favorite character
Another painful thing is by saying that Prime Hiruzen,Healthy Itachi or Nagato would beat someone you are accepting that the Hiruzen,Itachi,nagato we saw in the manga would lose which is an insult to the things they have accomplished
To remind what the real Hiruzen,Itachi and Nagato can do
Hiruzen:
Manga Proof :
Hiruzen was a kage and could get a stale mate against Orochimaru with Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama. Yes these edos were not perfect and were not using their full potential still getting a stalemate against 3 strong persons is impressive by any means.
Databook Proof :
he has a total of 34 very few people have more than that
Common Sense : Hiruzen was not at his best when he fought Orochimaru . Probably he would have been in him prime when he was 20+ years old. But dont know how much his speed and strength would improve
Hiruzen was a kage and could get a stale mate against Orochimaru with Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama. Yes these edos were not perfect and were not using their full potential still getting a stalemate against 3 strong persons is impressive by any means.
Databook Proof :
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he has a total of 34 very few people have more than that
Common Sense : Hiruzen was not at his best when he fought Orochimaru . Probably he would have been in him prime when he was 20+ years old. But dont know how much his speed and strength would improve
Itachi:
Manga Proof : Itachi was a gifted shinobi who had near perfect intelligence and unparalleled feats. He had mastered his sharingan with Tsukuyomi,Amaterasu, and Susanoo with 2 legendary weaons The sealing sword and Yata Mirror
And he went toe to toe with sasuke when he was sick and coughing up blood.
Although itachi had lower stamina than sasuke, sasuke was the one who lost all his chakra first ....Itachi with efficient chakra control outlasted sasuke - courtesy "Blaze Release"
Databook Proof:
He has the highest stat total out of all the characters published so far and only other person with equal stat total is Jiraiya
Common Sense:
Itachi was not born sick and coughing up blood .Yes he would have been healthier when he was younger. But dont know how much this would improve his stamina
And he went toe to toe with sasuke when he was sick and coughing up blood.
Although itachi had lower stamina than sasuke, sasuke was the one who lost all his chakra first ....Itachi with efficient chakra control outlasted sasuke - courtesy "Blaze Release"
Databook Proof:
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He has the highest stat total out of all the characters published so far and only other person with equal stat total is Jiraiya
Common Sense:
Itachi was not born sick and coughing up blood .Yes he would have been healthier when he was younger. But dont know how much this would improve his stamina
Nagato:
Manga Proof : Nagato had Rinnegan so he was mastered in all 5 elemental release, Yin-Yang release. Have OP animal summons and able to destroy a whole village and many other feats
Databook Proof:
Not available but sure it would have been OP
Common Sense:
If Nagato can freely move without all those metal rods sticking out of his back his speed would increase and if he was healthy he would be more powerful but again we dont know how much more powerful
Databook Proof:
Not available but sure it would have been OP
Common Sense:
If Nagato can freely move without all those metal rods sticking out of his back his speed would increase and if he was healthy he would be more powerful but again we dont know how much more powerful
Ofcourse many other characters are Hyped but since these are the most frequent once i have taken them for my example.
So no offense Hiruzen,Itachi,Nagato fans i do not hate any of these character and plz dont spam or make this into a hate thread
if you think i'm wrong or if you need any facts corrected reply rationally
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