[Predictions] Bleach Manga Chapter 514 Discussion and 515 Predictions

[adventnova]

Ishida got his powers back after a supposed, permanent loss of power.

Isshida lost his artificial powers, not his, when he lost it he was using a Quincy Power glove that amplified the users own power and if broken it absorbs an immense amount of near by spirit particles for powerful skill.

It reduced his power to near nothing, but he did not lose it, he ended up training to rebuild his power shortly after at the hidden cove in the park.

Isshin and Masaki are Ichigo's parents. Juha's phrase about him being his son of the darkness means he is a Quincy that has been with the shinigami, their enemy, hence the darkness quote. And he refered to him as son either because he is his grandfather and Masaki's dad, or cause he is the Quincy leader and all the others Quincies are his to order.

Isshin lost his powers because he used the Engetu's Final Getsuga Tensho as implied when he mentioned it to Ichigo. He only gained his powers again thanks to Urahara. That's why Urahara had thought of the sword used to later on restore Ichigo's power. But the sword used on Isshin was a prototype or lacked reiatsu since no one from Soul Society was used on it, and that's why against Aizen he wasn't at full-power.

Masaki's story is the dark part in here...she was a Quincy and...we know nothing more. She and Isshin fell in love and had to run because it was a forbidden love i think. She probably lost her powers willingly to try to live a normal life. Isshin used the FGT maybe against Juha or another powerful Quincy. His surname is not Kurosaki, hence why no one knew his name when Ichigo appeared.

So Masaki became a normal Human and Isshin became powerless and trapped in one of those artificial bodies. They only managed to have kids because Urahara thought of something...the guy created the hougyoku, so he can create ANYTHING at this point i think.

Being "implied" is very closed ended with the lack of information. Its more or less assumed that happened. Its true that we know Urahara helped him, though the problem is we dont know all of Urahara's background other than when he used to be part of the Gotei 13, dealt with helping the Vizard's and creating the first of 2 Hougyoku (maybe the second one, i think the first was a failed prototype).

Also interesting theory on Isshin and Masaki, that actually had a lot of information for what little is known about either one of them.

From what others have mentioned about Isshin including yourself, he can be of many things Shinigami related.

- He could have changed his name to protect his family.

- He could have been part of the Gotei 13 at some point since his power his comparable to that of a captains level (wouldnt make sense since no one recognizes him), even if he was there before the 13 were created he wouldve aged drastically like Yamamoto over 1000 years.

- He could have been -or- still could be part of the Royal Guard (stretching out there, i doubt this) and we dont know it and has been protecting the something of royalty (hint-hint the reborn soul king)

As many others also have thought about Ichigo being the reborn Soul King after it was first mentioned way way back, i think it makes even more sense to that being possible especially if Ichigo has all 3 of the main powers of the story. In order to well, rule them all, you'd have to be part of them all. If anyone has followed Ichigo's personality when he fights, he nearly always fights Neutrally even when pissed off. He wants to fight on even grounds no matter, even when he was in the Final Getsuga Tenshou form. He could have easily 1 shotted if he wanted to. The end of that fight made it seem like Ichigo was holding back to stay as close to the same level as Aizen. When he fights stronger foes then him, he does everything he can to stay level even when he gets his butt wooped or when his Hollow comes out and tears crap up like with Ulquirra, he offered his own limbs to be cut off to fight even a severely weakened foe.

 

[TheHokage]

Isshida lost his artificial powers, not his, when he lost it he was using a Quincy Power glove that amplified the users own power and if broken it absorbs an immense amount of near by spirit particles for powerful skill.

It reduced his power to near nothing, but he did not lose it, he ended up training to rebuild his power shortly after at the hidden cove in the park.



Being "implied" is very closed ended with the lack of information. Its more or less assumed that happened. Its true that we know Urahara helped him, though the problem is we dont know all of Urahara's background other than when he used to be part of the Gotei 13, dealt with helping the Vizard's and creating the first of 2 Hougyoku (maybe the second one, i think the first was a failed prototype).

Also interesting theory on Isshin and Masaki, that actually had a lot of information for what little is known about either one of them.

From what others have mentioned about Isshin including yourself, he can be of many things Shinigami related.

- He could have changed his name to protect his family.

- He could have been part of the Gotei 13 at some point since his power his comparable to that of a captains level (wouldnt make sense since no one recognizes him), even if he was there before the 13 were created he wouldve aged drastically like Yamamoto over 1000 years.

- He could have been -or- still could be part of the Royal Guard (stretching out there, i doubt this) and we dont know it and has been protecting the something of royalty (hint-hint the reborn soul king)

As many others also have thought about Ichigo being the reborn Soul King after it was first mentioned way way back, i think it makes even more sense to that being possible especially if Ichigo has all 3 of the main powers of the story. In order to well, rule them all, you'd have to be part of them all. If anyone has followed Ichigo's personality when he fights, he nearly always fights Neutrally even when pissed off. He wants to fight on even grounds no matter, even when he was in the Final Getsuga Tenshou form. He could have easily 1 shotted if he wanted to. The end of that fight made it seem like Ichigo was holding back to stay as close to the same level as Aizen. When he fights stronger foes then him, he does everything he can to stay level even when he gets his butt wooped or when his Hollow comes out and tears crap up like with Ulquirra, he offered his own limbs to be cut off to fight even a severely weakened foe.

Hmm this is interesting and I've also found it weird that Urahara, Yourich and Isshin live in the same town that is needed to make the royal key.

Also it was mentioned by Byakuya that those born from noble houses are gifted with stronger Reiatsu.

 

[aimop95]

Isshida lost his artificial powers, not his, when he lost it he was using a Quincy Power glove that amplified the users own power and if broken it absorbs an immense amount of near by spirit particles for powerful skill.

It reduced his power to near nothing, but he did not lose it, he ended up training to rebuild his power shortly after at the hidden cove in the park.

Then the final Getsuga Tenshou could be said of the same. What you are saying is that the glove took all of Isshida's power in it's last attack, and in that manner, it is like the final Getsuga Tenshou. Besides, when that glove was first presented, no one doubted that once the fight was over, Isshida was done with being a Quincy. However, the moment that little ray of hope appeared, of regaining lost power, then the probability of Ichigo getting his power back in a canonically sensible method upped instantly.

Of course, Ichigo was always a special child to begin with (and he had only lost his Shinigami powers. His hollow powers are a separate being to a certain extent).

 

[Fiercesoul]

Of course, Ichigo was always a special child to begin with (and he had only lost his Shinigami powers. His hollow powers are a separate being to a certain extent).

Actually, before fighting the Butterfly Aizen, he merged his Shinigami and Hollow powers and thus, he is always using both since then. That's why there is no more mask and hollow power-up because he is always using all of those powers.

When he learned Fullbring we were presented with another thing...he had a hollow energy in him, an echo from his parents being attacked by Hollows when he was in his mother's womb. And he learned how to acess that energy so he could later on awaken his other lost powers...of course that failed because of Ginjo, but when he regained his Shinigami powers (merged with Hollow powers) he also merged them with the remaints of his Fullbring. The conclusion to take here is...the reason he gained Hollow powers when trainning with Urahara to awaken his Shinigami powers for the first time, it was probably easier for him to develop a inner hollow because of that echo of hollow energy. That's my theory.

 

[Blacksparrow4]

I just read the spoilers and I wasn't sure if we could comment there or if I should start a new topic about it but I'll just leave a comment here.

Spoiler

HOLY SHIT! Is it really possible for Byakuya to be alive?! Wait this is Bleach we're talking about. I'm okay with him still being alive seeing as I'm too much of a wuss to let any of these characters go. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are going to be disappointed about this. And it's a shame because bleach has really been on it's game lately. Also I really confused as to why Kenpachi is apparently in a coma or something, how bad could Juha have beaten his ass off panel? I hope this means we will see Yachiru soon, I have a crazy theory that she is Kenpachi's Zanpakuto