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Who will win the 2012 US elections?

  • Barack Obama

    Votes: 40 81.6%
  • Mitt Romney

    Votes: 9 18.4%

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They're probably neutral about it.

I personally hope that Obama wins. People complain a lot about how he handles his 4 year presidential term, but considering the mess George W. Bush left him in, and the fact that the crisis pretty much burst open when he started his term, he's not doing a bad job.
I see....


What would be a scenario in a 4 year period if Romney was elected..?





Same to Obama if he is re-elected..?
 

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Agree completely also do you want to list any of Obama accomplishments since he took office?
well from what i have seen so far is that technically the unemployment rate has not been growing crazy like it was in the past to the point where before obama took office it was 8% and now i think it is 7.9 not a big one but it wen down it actually could have been way higher when you are in a situation like that.

what i think obama has done was really to support people and give them an opening of a future more like students getting funds and also helping people and service.(he has also supported health care and it helps many people)
the old also benefit frrom health care as well as much as you want to say you don't want health care then that is a big risk many like to take and then when the day happens of a serious problem then you would have wanted health care so that you could afford the operation and medicine to survive and heath care to day has been getting better doing that especially in Connecticut that is known for it.

its good service they provide but some people are afraid of getting bad performance so they won't want that health care or that they don't want to pay money for insurance but overall it's cheaper for a national insurance and safer for people like what canada has and it is a good service.

obama has done lots he makes people feel good when he talks about his views because he tries to get in touch and shares about what people really go threw and tries to help people out like the poor and middle class so that if they gain problems the goverment can help them rise up.

i don't know all of obama achievements but i do know that he has done good for many old and young people try to find there futures of education and health care.
 
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I see....


What would be a scenario in a 4 year period if Romney was elected..?





Same to Obama if he is re-elected..?
I can type for hours on this topic but lets limit it to a small list for my personal health

Romney in 4 years of running the US

Mitt Romney would eliminate all federal funding for Planned Parenthood, and roll back all the benefits of health reform. Back to bush time

Mitt Romney would repeal Obamacare, and give employers the authority to limit women’s access to common forms of birth control. (VERY BAD) Everything Clinton did Bush just repealed ALMOST EVERYTHING the democrats did

Mitt Romney would let employers, insurance companies, and politicians limit women’s health choices. This would be a step back in time

Mitt Romney has no plan to withdraw troops from Afghanistan. Though Romney keeps switching back and forth on this with his mind not made up. The Real Mitt Romney still wants us in war and has Russia labeled our number one enemie (WHICH IS A SUPERPOWER BTW). Thats why he wants over I think it was 2 billion or 2 trillion added to the military even though they ain't asking for the money.

On a foreign trip from what I remembered Mitt Romney insulted one of our closest allies—the British (I think) —right before their Olympics. And he’s spent months on the campaign trail criticizing our allies and partners around the world. He will make enemies with the whole world againest the US

Mitt Romney wants to preserve loopholes that allow millionaires like himself to pay a lower tax rate than working families. This explains why when people ask them about the loopholes Romney/Ryan will say the math is too long or just be quiet on it. If they spoke the truth about the loopholes he will get no votes remember the guy is a business man if he can get away with selling you defective products e.x cars he will keep doing it.

Romney would slash investments in the middle class while providing one of the largest tax cuts in history to the wealthy. Thats why the rich are holding on to the bush tax cuts hard so they pay less taxes. Obama was forced to keep the bush tax cuts because he wanted to lower taxes on the poor/middle class but republicans said If the poor/middle class gets tax cuts we do to. To avoid another filibuster by the republicans Obama went with lowering taxes for everybody.


Obama another 4 years

His budget includes investments in education, manufacturing, and infrastructure, while bringing discretionary spending to its lowest level as a share of the economy in more than 50 years. This is what MOST economists are saying since they are the experts I believe what they are saying.

Ended the war in Iraq , bringing our troops home from Afghanistan made a year 2014 , and will use half the savings to reduce the deficit

Will Develop every available source of American made energy—including oil, gas, clean coal, wind, solar, biofuels, nuclear - and taking steps to protect our climate which global warming is real people scientists already proved it with cold hard facts behind it.

Yeah I can go on and on about a Romney/Obama 4 years ahead deal but I will stop here if you want more just message me
 

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i live in america , but im not voting for this A holes , not worth it - get ready america this is only gonna hurt 4 more years
Later don't complain about it. My teacher always says "If you don't vote, don't b-tch" which is true.
Even if you think there both bad, one has to have at least something better.
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I cant wait for the elections, I hope Obama wins.
 
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I guess I will post this here

People need to remember that Romney is a business man so he is qualify for the job WRONG

You can't run a nation like a business heres why

Business are for one reason only to make money. A business is legally obligated to put profit above everything else

Businesses do not care about their customers. No where in the corporate charter does it talk about customer happiness or customer satisfaction. If a competitor is making there customers happy there may be some type of incentive to go in that direction but out of all of it it's about the shareholders and ONLY the shareholders. It's less expensive to improve the marketing than it is to improve the product or service. All in all it's fine to sell defective products as long as they can MANIPULATE a certain percentage of the people into believing they are buying a good product at a good price their shareholders are happy.If the marketing campaign is really good, they will convince their customers that product defects are normal (as with many electronics) and that they should pay to replace their defective product with the next generation of the very same defective product.


The government is not in the business for creating demand. Government services are only necessary for our society to function properly. Businesses are made every day by creating new demands for new products. Pharmaceutical companies invent illnesses. Clothing manufacturers convince us that we are somehow inferior if we are caught wearing last year’s styles. Governments pick up trash, teach children, put out fires and serve justice. They have no incentive to have us create more trash, make dumber children, start fires or imprison innocent people. On the other hand, if those same services were run by business, the more trash they picked up, the more money they would earn. The more work they had to put into educating our children, the more money they would earn. The more fires they had to put out, the more money they would earn. The more people that they put in jail, the more money they earn.


The cost cutting measures taken by businesses can backfire on the government. Since free trade agreements are becoming more and more common. One of the most used common cost cutting measures has been to OUTSOURCE JOBS. Mitt Romneys company (Bain) taught other businesses how to save money by outsourcing jobs overseas which is becoming a problem it's all about greed people. ALL FOR PROFIT. Working people in China 90 cents an hour 12 hours a day and with one day off a month will let a business keep more money than paying people in the United States 14 to 20 dollers a hour. Which in some ways is why large businesses are trying to make there workers vote for Romneys so they can get rid of unions WHICH IS VERY BAD





Business people tend to do a very bad job at governing. George W.Bush and Cheney both came from business backgrounds and they left the country in the worst financial shape since the great depression. Mitt Romney from a business background left Massachusetts 47th out of 50 states for job creation which is one of the reasons why his approval rating went down. I know because I lived in Massaschusetts during the time he was state governer. People say he had a extremely good record in Mass soooo if he did he would ve ran for a second term and would have a double digit lead on Obama BUT Obama instead HAS a double digit lead on him in Mass

Businesses are amoral. Morality isn't part of the corporate charter. The constitution is a moral (please don't confuse this with religious documents) It is a code of conduct for all goverment officials. It states that officials from the governemnt must answer to WE THE PEOPLE. If we don't like the constitution we can change it . Business people don't have no such codes of conduct unless it is to instruct them to not embarrass the corporation and its board of directors. We the Customers have absolutely no input into any such code of conduct.

These are reasons why business people are terrible in governing period. Which is why my vote is for Obama. So if any of you will ask me what did Obama did in 4 years go to post 18 if you didnt look at it already
 

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Well tomorrow is the elections, tbh I cannot believe the Mitt Romney is actually a presidential candidate at all, cos his stuff are like all contradictory and distort the truth, just like Madara (maybe not lol)
 
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Look a fool that can't tell the obvious differences between democrats and republicans. I will give one difference between the two and up to you if you wanna learn more

Democrats: Believe in a larger federal government, and often implement tax plans to try to help the less privileged. (Poor and middle Class)

Republicans: More interested in regulating personal matters and in deregulation of business and economic matters.
 

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Look a fool that can't tell the obvious differences between democrats and republicans. I will give one difference between the two and up to you if you wanna learn more

Democrats: Believe in a larger federal government, and often implement tax plans to try to help the less privileged. (Poor and middle Class)

Republicans: More interested in regulating personal matters and in deregulation of business and economic matters.
lmfaooo. Son, believe me you have a lot to learn.
Let me enlighten you in this cocky way since you did it too without knowing sh1t.
There are 2 parties to give us, the people, the illusion of choice. In the end, governments are just gangs and have no interest in our wellbeing. They create 'differences' in policies to make us think we're better out in the one or the other. Now the brain-dead voters like you don't know better and stay ignorant in this mind-enslaved game. Go do your homework, kid.

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lmfaooo. Son, believe me you have a lot to learn.
Let me enlighten you in this cocky way since you did it too without knowing sh1t.
There are 2 parties to give us, the people, the illusion of choice. In the end, governments are just gangs and have no interest in our wellbeing. They create 'differences' in policies to make us think we're better out in the one or the other. Now the brain-dead voters like you don't know better and stay ignorant in this mind-enslaved game. Go do your homework, kid.

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You said there was no difference and I gave you a difference between the two.
 
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