we'll decide abt it after you show proof
and BTW slug mode is said by bogard the OP i reread again
and ur proof be better than the name kabuto said ...bcos it says about the three legendary places but doesn't provide proof that someone have actually learned from there
u know him great 2 peas in a pod overrating sakura lolzz.... so whatever works for you or who ever said or who ever spread it , i dont care come at me with proof and not @bold "assumption"
u know him great 2 peas in a pod overrating sakura lolzz.... so whatever works for you or who ever said or who ever spread it , i dont care come at me with proof and not @bold "assumption"
come on that was a joke cant u even take that much .... and dont call me boy ..i'm pretty sure i'm a lot older than u "theories based on the facts showed throughout the manga" i'm still waiting for that
i dont bash,flame etc ... every thing i have ever said has manga proof ....
i even like tsunade to a extent but its really annoying when people overrate them ...its like insulting my common sense,intelligence and manga proof
come on that was a joke cant u even take that much .... and dont call me boy ..i'm pretty sure i'm a lot older than u "theories based on the facts showed throughout the manga" i'm still waiting for that
i dont bash,flame etc ... every thing i have ever said has manga proof ....
i even like tsunade to a extent but its really annoying when people overrate them ...its like insulting my common sense,intelligence and manga proof
I've never bashed a single character in the entire series, unlike others. And no, this is not targeted. This goes for everyone.
So you mean that if I do some logical assumptions I insult your common sense or intelligence? Please...
Let's not get in the Tobi/Obito theories. I feel like that. Seriously.
Like everyone who thought Obito was not Tobi was put to the wall for having a different opinion than the rest who have been "proving" facts just by the hair cut and name, rather than any other means.
I've never bashed a single character in the entire series, unlike others. And no, this is not targeted. This goes for everyone.
So you mean that if I do some logical assumptions I insult your common sense or intelligence? Please...
Let's not get in the Tobi/Obito theories. I feel like that. Seriously.
Like everyone who thought Obito was not Tobi was put to the wall for having a different opinion than the rest who have been "proving" facts just by the hair cut and name, rather than any other means.
i din't say u were bashing. logical assumptions should atleast have a shred of proof
i dont wanna go into the Tobi/obito theories too i was one of those who got the raw end of the deal too
but thats wat happen when we over think something...and i didn't bitch abt or whine abt it ..just took it like a man ....simple manga proved you wrong thats all to it
you should accept it too ... up until now manga evidence shows that sakura does not get any stronger and no way is she surpassing tsunade .... that is undeniable,irrefutable fact /thread
i din't say u were bashing. logical assumptions should atleast have a shred of proof
i dont wanna go into the Tobi/obito theories too i was one of those who got the raw end of the deal too
but thats wat happen when we over think something...and i didn't bitch abt or whine abt it ..just took it like a man ....simple manga proved you wrong thats all to it
you should accept it too ... up until now manga evidence shows that sakura does not get any stronger and no way is she surpassing tsunade .... that is undeniable,irrefutable fact /thread
wtf???? people are actually believing that sakura will do something and get stronger ...i dont see it coming in manga
first of all understand kishi..... at the moment if a character doesn't have sharingan,rinnegan,uzumaki DNA or have hashirama's wood inside them ( i meant senju DNA) then kishimoto wont care abt that character and wont give them screen time as simple as that (being a jinjuriki or a kage really helps though)
Now to address some of the nonsense stuff thats people are saying in this thread
1.Surpassing Tsunade
Tsunade herself is not the strongest of kages but hers speciality is healing thats wat she learned in 50 yrs or so then immense stamina,endurance and monstrous strength which are mostly attributed to her for being a senju
and we have sakura who is a pale and watered down version of tsunade .... she doesn't have a chakra seal in her head like tsunade for stamina or healing without hand seals and for GODS SAKE SAKURA CANT EVEN DO A SUMMONING JUTSU :sy:
its a total fail to even say that sakura can surpass tsunade i just dont see it coming at all
another thing is if she ever manages to surpass tsunade its not a big feat to say "WOW SAKURA SURPASSED TSUNADE" its more like "so she finally done it hmm" bcos Naruto surpassed Jiraiya when he perfected Sage mode(not as a whole ninja with experience but atleast in terms of power and ability) and Sasuke surpassed orochimaru when he suppressed orochimaru's chakra and consciousness inside him when orochimaru tried to take over sasuke's body.....bothof which took place like years ago
Ever heard of the student passing the teacher, thats what this whole series is about. Now look at the trends, Naruto learns toads from Jman and Sage Mode from his summon, Sasuke learns Curse Mark and Snakes from Orochimaru, why does it sound idiotic to you that sakura will follow suit with CRB and Katsuya summon?
You know why it Sasuke and Naruto took two years to learn this ability and Sakura took 2 years to learn Med ninjutsu? Because its Medical Ninjutsu, far greater of a feat in mastering Med Jutsu fully.
2.Slug Sage mode,Genjutsu Bringer of Darkness Bull Sh!t
Yes i understand logically slug sage mode is a possibility after Toad and Dragon SM but until kishi shows it in the manga sakura doesn't have it and i personally believe that she will never have it
Reason:
1.who is going to teach her?
Tsunade-NO bcos if tsunade already has a SM she would have used it against madara
Kayatsu-too bad sakura doesn't know to how use summoning jutsu
2.How is she going to learn it?
you need high chakra to begin with to learn SM ....if tsunade a senju cant learn it i dont see sakura learning it
Genjutsu Nonsense: yes kakashi said sakura is a Genjutsu type but how many time have we actually seen sakura use genjutsu against an enemy ....welll there are 600+ chapters and not once did sakura use genjutsu as an offensive
the best sakura did related to genjutsu is she got herself out of a jonin level genjutsu during the chunin exam which shikamaru and shino also did
its upto kishi to imagine power ups for character ....so dont go on sprouting BS abt power ups without any proof or logical reason
I'm not even going to argue slug sm, i didn't even mention that in my original post, but the genjutsu part you can't over look, what kakashi said is true, and all she needs to do is find a teacher. Now what makes it idiotic to think that Sakura would run into Kurenai and ask for Genjutsu help? Knowing the precise chakra control needed to do Medical Ninjutsu, she would excel in the needed chakra control for genjutsu.
3.Purpose of sakura getting power up and purpose of Sakura's character
Sakura is one of the main protagonist in the manga with sasuke and naruto
both naruto and sasuke has a goal i.e something they have to do or protect
Naruto-becoming Hokage becoming strong enough to protect village,bring peace and bring back sasuke
Sasuke-becoming strong,getting revenge for itachi,the uchiha clan murder etc...rebuilding the uchiha clan etc..
also sasuke and naruto are rivals so there is a purpose for both of them getting stronger
then we have sakura :sy: see for yourself
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even ten ten had a better goal i.e becoming a konoichi like tsunade xd
and most importantly the purpose of sakura's character is to be a love interest for sasuke and naruto nothing more
she is a failure even in that
she cant stop sasuke from leaving the village so what does she do cry abt it to naruto
sakura's whole life in a short summary : try to read with sakura's voice
i like sasuke so much that i would faint if i see him beaten and all bloody ...but when a nice guy like naruto tries to talk to me i shun him away. then i learn that sasuke is a emo going for vengeance i cant stop him
i'm so useless i cant bring back sasuke alone so i go ask help from the nice guy naruto who i shunned away ...naruto is strong and really an expert on Talk-no-Jutsu so i'll totally depend on naruto to bring back sasuke and also go on missions with naruto to bring back sasuke... at the same time i'll hint more than friends kind of affection towards naruto so that if sasuke never come backs i would have naruto but if sasuke eventually turns gud and comes back to konoha i'll totally ditch naruto and be with sasuke forever
so clearly there is no reason for sakura to gain power up bcos she isn't going to use them anyway
the fact that she has never fought against an enemy 1 on 1 proves that sakura isn't combat matrial so she is more of a side line helping the injured soldiers character just like orihime in bleach
if any sakura fanboy/fangirl is going to disagree with me plz speak rationally and provide manga proof
i do not need proof for her medical skills ....she is a good medic after tsunade,kabuto,shizune
and dont bring up sasori's fight ....for the 100[SUP]th[/SUP] time it was chiyo who defeated and killed sasori.... that too sasori chose not to dodge the final attack
also sakura would have died in 10 sec if it isn't for chiyo
Sakura is one of the most useful characters in the series baka, how do you call medical ninja useless? No one says she needs to be a combat ninja, Tsunade isn't one but she can take Mei and win.
I can also provide manga proof that states Hinata should've died in part one but every sensei stopped Neji from doing it. Or that she should have died when Pain stabbed her but Kishi trolled us.
If you really want to look for a useless character i might have a suggestion, Hinata Hyuuga. Can you tell me her significance other then that she loves naruto and that naruto won't give her the time of day?
LOL she isn't even going to the head of her clan, her little sibling is more worthy :rofl:
i didn't want to do this, but you kept sounding like you were all that :shrug:
kakashi and chiyo who is the third ???
"going to surpass" but has she already surpassed considering a year has passed after they said it??? NO
what steps has she taken to better herself , how many times has she faced actual combat after that??
kakashi and chiyo who is the third ???
"going to surpass" but has she already surpassed considering a year has passed after they said it??? NO
what steps has she taken to better herself , how many times has she faced actual combat after that??
Kishi himself: new generation surpasses the old one. Plus Iruka when he said she has become a fine shinobi.
A year has passed in our time, in manga time it's still like what, few months?
Actual combat? She was about to be killed by a Zetsu clone and she put him to rest, as simple as that.
If she'd had been that useless and stupid as people want her to be, she'd be dead from a Kunai.
Kishi himself: new generation surpasses the old one. Plus Iruka when he said she has become a fine shinobi.
A year has passed in our time, in manga time it's still like what, few months?
Actual combat? She was about to be killed by a Zetsu clone and she put him to rest, as simple as that.
If she'd had been that useless and stupid as people want her to be, she'd be dead from a Kunai.
That was simply plot device to show Naruto's new sensing abilities. Let's take it before when Naruto wasn't defending everyone, not even Sakura.
Who did it on her own?
Ever heard of the student passing the teacher, thats what this whole series is about. Now look at the trends, Naruto learns toads from Jman and Sage Mode from his summon, Sasuke learns Curse Mark and Snakes from Orochimaru, why does it sound idiotic to you that sakura will follow suit with CRB and Katsuya summon?
Did you even read every thing ..... i have said sakura cant perform summoning jutsu so she cant learn from kayatsu and i dont think tsunade is in any state to teach sakura anything ....if sakura can learn it she should have learned it before the war started so all of sakura's feats stop here if tsunade dies .... if tsunade survives then she might learn sumthing new
You know why it Sasuke and Naruto took two years to learn this ability and Sakura took 2 years to learn Med ninjutsu? Because its Medical Ninjutsu, far greater of a feat in mastering Med Jutsu fully.
can you give me manga proof for it i.e it took sasuke and naruto 2 years to learn it .... the time skip was 2 years but we saw naruto learn sage mode from "pa" frog after he heard the news of jiraiya's death and before the invasion of pain and it is not 2 years
I'm not even going to argue slug sm, i didn't even mention that in my original post, but the genjutsu part you can't over look, what kakashi said is true, and all she needs to do is find a teacher. Now what makes it idiotic to think that Sakura would run into Kurenai and ask for Genjutsu help? Knowing the precise chakra control needed to do Medical Ninjutsu, she would excel in the needed chakra control for genjutsu.
sakura would run into kurenai and ask for genjutsu help :sy: there is so many flaws in it
1.sakura is in active duty for war where as kurenai is in village looking after her baby
2.kurenai herself isn't an expert in genjutsu bcos she was shown captured in her own genjutsu while fighting itachi
Sakura is one of the most useful characters in the series baka, how do you call medical ninja useless? No one says she needs to be a combat ninja, Tsunade isn't one but she can take Mei and win.
i didnot say medical ninjutsu is useless .... did u even read i said sakura is a gud medic after tsunade,kabuto and shizune i.e 4th
I'm glad that you dont want sakura to be a combat ninja bcos that is not happening until now
tsunade take on Mei and win in your dreams
I can also provide manga proof that states Hinata should've died in part one but every sensei stopped Neji from doing it. Or that she should have died when Pain stabbed her but Kishi trolled us.
If you really want to look for a useless character i might have a suggestion, Hinata Hyuuga. Can you tell me her significance other then that she loves naruto and that naruto won't give her the time of day?
LOL she isn't even going to the head of her clan, her little sibling is more worthy :rofl:
i didn't want to do this, but you kept sounding like you were all that :shrug:
and i'm impressed by your intelligence finding out my favorite female character is Hinata from my sig "claps"
FYI hinata is not one of the main protagonist and has far less screen time
and also reread my second paragraph of my post#92 you will find your answer
i know very well hinata is not strong and also there is no evidence the she will get stronger that she is now
but i still like her bcos i accept the fact that purpose of Hinata's character in manga is to be a luv interest for naruto and a bit of fan service which i'm more than happy abt
That was simply plot device to show Naruto's new sensing abilities. Let's take it before when Naruto wasn't defending everyone, not even Sakura.
Who did it on her own?
Kishi himself: new generation surpasses the old one. Plus Iruka when he said she has become a fine shinobi.
A year has passed in our time, in manga time it's still like what, few months?
Actual combat? She was about to be killed by a Zetsu clone and she put him to rest, as simple as that.
If she'd had been that useless and stupid as people want her to be, she'd be dead from a Kunai.
ya iruka also said a lot abt third which i dont wanna get into
" new generation surpasses the old one " couldn't mean everyone ...i think he meant to say that abt natuto
if we assume that this quote applied to every one that means tenten will surpass kurenai ,and a lot more characters which will sound absurd
2 min with zetzu clone is hardly combat when naruto takes on madara,sasuke took on kages
i'm not saying she is stupid or anything like that ...i'm saying she is not worth the hype she received in this thread
and she is not combat material .... the best she could be compared to is shizune nothing more ... even that is stretching it a bit
Did you even read every thing ..... i have said sakura cant perform summoning jutsu so she cant learn from kayatsu and i dont think tsunade is in any state to teach sakura anything ....if sakura can learn it she should have learned it before the war started so all of sakura's feats stop here if tsunade dies .... if tsunade survives then she might learn sumthing new
Because Pa couldn't come out of Mt. Myoboku without Jman help? :sy: So Sakura can't progress without her teacher, just like naruto didn't progress with Jman or Sasuke without ORo, OH wait...
can you give me manga proof for it i.e it took sasuke and naruto 2 years to learn it .... the time skip was 2 years but we saw naruto learn sage mode from "pa" frog after he heard the news of jiraiya's death and before the invasion of pain and it is not 2 years
fail again, Naruto had the shadow clone help plus Naruto is just gifted with talent and with kishi helped even mastered kyuubi chakra in a matter of hours
sakura would run into kurenai and ask for genjutsu help :sy: there is so many flaws in it
1.sakura is in active duty for war where as kurenai is in village looking after her baby
2.kurenai herself isn't an expert in genjutsu bcos she was shown captured in her own genjutsu while fighting itachi
i never said she get it during the war, i'm looking at the future, also how do you compare Kurenai to a KG and the greatest genjutsu user in the manga?
Kurenai is the best if we are talking non sharingan hands down
i didnot say medical ninjutsu is useless .... did u even read i said sakura is a gud medic after tsunade,kabuto and shizune i.e 4th
I'm glad that you dont want sakura to be a combat ninja bcos that is not happening until now
tsunade take on Mei and win in your dreams
Tsunade > Mei care to tell me how she takes care of the summoning we are talking about?
very mature of you u_u
and i'm impressed by your intelligence finding out my favorite female character is Hinata from my sig "claps"
FYI hinata is not one of the main protagonist and has far less screen time
and also reread my second paragraph of my post#92 you will find your answer
i know very well hinata is not strong and also there is no evidence the she will get stronger that she is now
but i still like her bcos i accept the fact that purpose of Hinata's character in manga is to be a luv interest for naruto and a bit of fan service which i'm more than happy abt
