Hiruzen dark side revealed(worst kage of all time)

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

I i agree about oro and danzo and hin wanting power

 

[romeboii]

wrong all of it is wrong...hiruzen had root shut down but danzo kept moving in secret 1st kakashi and rin and obito was around 14 during the war...2nd they were chunin and kakashi had just become jonin...you say he did not give obito a funeral but during war you cant worry about one individual death when thousands are dying you cant mourn until you win...and how you know he had to do experiments and shit he prolly mastered every jutsu that was already perfected..and he prolly mastered ninjutsu and genjutsu

 

[lsgteam]

When the nine tails attacked Minato didnt give any orders since he was fighting Tobi from the beginning. It wasnt like he stopped kids going to fight. Those "kids" Hiruzen let fight were with Minato (maybe the strongest Konoha Shinobi) and the only thing they had to do is destroy a bridge. Dont forget, Kakashi was already jounin and they didnt seem like they were forced to go. Unfortunately the mission didnt go as planned.... However Tsunade let Naruto and some other "kids" go to bring Sasuke back, Tobirama went on a mission with Hiruzen, Danzou etc.... I dont really see ur point. Kakashi also knows thousands of jutsus, Minato also created many jutsus, only because Oro did those experiments it doesnt mean all shinobi who know several jutsus did so either.

 

[robert31393]

ok your waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overthinking this bro

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

hiruzen didn't have to sen the kids he still had some top shinobi at that thime who had kg like the uchiha and hygua and all who could probably have defended them well,if minato found out that hiruzen made the kids fight then minato would come back from the dead to kill hiruzen he wouldn't allow hiruzen to do that lol

Minato was there when he sent kids on mission he sent his team, you should actually blame minato for sending team kakashi with obito and rin on missions which led to their deaths, well rins anyway

 

[Prime Rib]

lmfao the 3rd hokage wasnt perfect just like any person

 

[Exaar]

Not sure if this is a joke thread, or if Op is actually serious.

 

[huzaifa555]

You sir will be flamed even if you are right.

 

[New Era]

wrong all of it is wrong...hiruzen had root shut down but danzo kept moving in secret 1st kakashi and rin and obito was around 14 during the war...2nd they were chunin and kakashi had just become jonin...you say he did not give obito a funeral but during war you cant worry about one individual death when thousands are dying you cant mourn until you win...and how you know he had to do experiments and shit he prolly mastered every jutsu that was already perfected..and he prolly mastered ninjutsu and genjutsu

danzo always proposed plans to hiruzena dn they were not even right,hiruzen being the hokage has to know some things especially things about big conflicts against another villlage or in there village like the uchiha massacre and hiruzaen made the wrong move and he listened to danzo the uchiha's didn't need to all die to fix there problems.

obito getting a funeral wouldn't have been a special case since there was a relationship of goverment going agaisnt the uchiha and fi hiruzen actually displayed a funeral ground for obito to the uchiha's then this oculd have eased there tensions against the goverment of konoha and uchiha that tobi was talking about.
in this series so far when ever someone has reached a goal of 1000 jutsu and wants to learn all jutsu's they have to do something dark and that really to understand the basic 's of ninjutsu like what kabuto and orochiamru experiment on to see if the formula's works to create there own jutsu's and to master others and if hiruzen really mastere every jutsu in konoha then he must have tested them.

When the nine tails attacked Minato didnt give any orders since he was fighting Tobi from the beginning. It wasnt like he stopped kids going to fight. Those "kids" Hiruzen let fight were with Minato (maybe the strongest Konoha Shinobi) and the only thing they had to do is destroy a bridge. Dont forget, Kakashi was already jounin and they didnt seem like they were forced to go. Unfortunately the mission didnt go as planned.... However Tsunade let Naruto and some other "kids" go to bring Sasuke back, Tobirama went on a mission with Hiruzen, Danzou etc.... I dont really see ur point. Kakashi also knows thousands of jutsus, Minato also created many jutsus, only because Oro did those experiments it doesnt mean all shinobi who know several jutsus did so either.

kids shouldn't be fighting in the war kakashi didn't even have enough experience and almost threw his life away when he used chidori and minato could have reallyhave done that mission by himself they didn't need to go with him.

the difference between those missions and this one is that enemies would be all over and it's a full scale war on a another insstead of squads and basic team going after to recover something that they can usually handle.

 

[Exaar]

kids shouldn't be fighting in the war kakashi didn't even have enough experience and almost threw his life away when he used chidori and minato could have reallyhave done that mission by himself they didn't need to go with him.

the difference between does mission and this one is that enemies would be all over and it's a full scale war on a another insstead of squads and basic team going after to recover something that they can usually handle.

Wrong.

Those "Kids" were chunin/Jonin's, They trained as shinobi, They knew the risks befor ever becoming shinobi.
It's a shinobi's job to fight for their village, No matter what the cost, No matter what their age.

You seem to fail to understand the shinobi world.

 

[New Era]

Wrong.

Those "Kids" were chunin/Jonin's, They trained as shinobi, They knew the risks befor ever becoming shinobi.
It's a shinobi's job to fight for their village, No matter what the cost, No matter what their age.

You seem to fail to understand the shinobi world.

those ninja's weren't suited for war if they were going to defend parts of the village where they have back up to easily regroup yea that's fine but when they are way out and there sensei leaves them too that's is to risky to even allow since kakahsi squads wasn't that well developed in skill so it wasn't like a safe decision.

 

[Xaviour]

Danzo was not the leader of ANBU, he was the leader of ROOT which is a completely separate division.

 

[Exaar]

those ninja's weren't suited for war if they were going to defend parts of the village where they have back up to easily regroup yea that's fine but when they are way out and there sensei leaves them too that's is to risky to even allow since kakahsi squads wasn't even that well developed in skill,

They were able body shinobi and this was War, They couldn't cut their army just because some of them were "Kids", Even though they were strong enough to reach chunin rank.
It's like saying Chunin/Jonin level "Kid" should not go on High ranked missions and so on.

The life of a shinobi is hard, Not for those who want to play Ninja, if children of Chunin rank and above are sent to war, then thats what they do, as i said, they knew the risks yet still became shinobi.

Many chunin ranks and above are sent to war, It's mainly only the Genin's that stay behind in the village.

Also kakashi's squad was fine, One Jounin, Two chunin. It's not like they were helpless genins, They were trained shinobi that reached the rank of Chunin/Jonin, They could hold their own.


How many kids are at war in the current manga, Naruto himself is only 16 (i think), Not much older than Kakashi/obito/rin, Same for the rest of the other konoha squads.

 

[Boskarta]

I wouldn't say he had a "dark" side but he did suck as a Hokage...

I think mastering every jutsu of the village was an exaggeration there's no real proof to that statement if he'd truly done that he could have used Flying Thunder God to combat Orochimaru, but he never.

Also he beat a Tobirama and Hashirama who were being poorly controlled so no that does not make him better than them.
Well, Tobirama, perhaps but not Hashi.

 

[Exaar]

I wouldn't say he had a "dark" side but he did suck as a Hokage...

I think mastering every jutsu of the village was an exaggeration there's no real proof to that statement if he'd truly done that he could have used Flying Thunder God to combat Orochimaru, but he never.

Also he beat a Tobirama and Hashirama who were being poorly controlled so no that does not make him better than them.
Well, Tobirama, perhaps but not Hashi.

he mastered all the Jutsu's that existed in the leaf during his Prime, Didn't say he could use every jutsu that has ever existed in the leaf.

There were no S/T users around during his prime.

 

[romeboii]

they had orders there ninja and they live by a code they had a mission to infiltrate and destroy the mission went wrong becauses minato had a different mission he didnt send his team on that mission that was there assigned mission he was kind enough to take them half way to debrief them

 

[romeboii]

dp you think that was there 1st mission no there sensei did not just leave them he had his own mission he had to go to the front lines and take out all the enemies by himself..i bet that they was not sent to the front lines because they are young but they was not kids

 

[Cosmic Path]

nope....Hiruzen deeply care about the village and would sacrafice himself to save Konoha

 

[New Era]

I wouldn't say he had a "dark" side but he did suck as a Hokage...

I think mastering every jutsu of the village was an exaggeration there's no real proof to that statement if he'd truly done that he could have used Flying Thunder God to combat Orochimaru, but he never.

Also he beat a Tobirama and Hashirama who were being poorly controlled so no that does not make him better than them.
Well, Tobirama, perhaps but not Hashi.

well hiruzen could have avoided some situations which then lead to greater conflict but hiruzen in the end seemed to be a nice person though but we may not know how strong hiruzen really is but at old age he could fight two senju's so i think he is at least on there level since they trained him.

they had orders there ninja and they live by a code they had a mission to infiltrate and destroy the mission went wrong becauses minato had a different mission he didnt send his team on that mission that was there assigned mission he was kind enough to take them half way to debrief them

yea but the thing is they weren't like ready to go even if you want to go by code send the best to defend that area or attack instead of assigning the same young team of ninja of inexperience ninja like they did with the shinobi world war right now.

dp you think that was there 1st mission no there sensei did not just leave them he had his own mission he had to go to the front lines and take out all the enemies by himself..i bet that they was not sent to the front lines because they are young but they was not kids

yea but that mission should have had someone else ot do the job even though at that time kakashi was some what powerful they should have had a mix team of ninja to do there operation and konoha is a poweful village so it shouldn't really be a problem.

nope....Hiruzen deeply care about the village and would sacrafice himself to save Konoha

you never know

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Send 5 years old kids to fight in a war and forbids 16 years old ninja to battle against the Nine-Tails. Genius.