obito & naruto vs ems madara & hashirama

[History]

who wins i say team naruto because obito>hashirama

naruto>ems madara

 

[Simple Math]

team Naruto

 

[TheSages456]

i dont know why you are saying that naruto can beat madara when he is losing in the manga but whatever.

madara>naruto
hashirama>obito

 

[TobisPawn]

Naruto really drags Obito down here...

 

[Blunt]

Naruto is not even in these guys league.. Obito is the only playing card here considering Hashirama can use mokuton for the kyuubi chakra and suppress it. Madara would also beat Naruto.

Hashirama and Madara mid difficulty.

 

[OnPoint]

Perfect Susano'o doesn't have the durability feats which would allow it to survive Naruto's flash Bijuu Dama.

 

[Blunt]

Perfect Susano'o doesn't have the durability feats which would allow it to survive Naruto's flash Bijuu Dama.

How do you suppose? It is not even proven any form of TBB can break a regular complete Susano'o.

 

[OnPoint]

How do you suppose? It is not even proven any form of TBB can break a regular complete Susano'o.

Perfect Susano'o has been shown to be the size of a single mountain [

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]. The size of PS in comparison to the combined Bijuu Dama [

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]. If a tired Naruto is capable of rivaling 5 Bijuu with that amount of power, it stands to reason that a fresh Naruto could make something even larger than what he's been shown to do already [

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]. That's pre-detonation size.

Naruto's Bijuu Dama would completely fodderize any Susano'o which isn't in the league of Madara's. Onoki's Jinton, which is barely half the size of Perfect Susano'o, effortlessly destroyed 25 Susano'os. If Naruto's Bijuu Dama explosion is that much larger than a normal Susano'o (which is an ant in comparison to a mountain), it'd easily envelop it and incinerate (as a single TBB did to the mountains [

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]) it from all angles (top, side, underneath etc). And, currently, Madara doesn't have the durability feats which would allow it to tank Naruto's complete flash TBB.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Naruto is not even in these guys league..

how? hes proven far superior to hashirama whos done nothing and has no feats

i dont know why you are saying that naruto can beat madara when he is losing in the manga but whatever.

main character powers. and i wasnt aware naruto was fighting alive EMS madara when i clearly saw a mokuton there. and i clearly saw madara have edo cracks. but whatever.

Madara would also beat Naruto.

hows he gonna do that? naruto swamps "perfect" susano in a clone army till madara gets tired.

Hashirama can use mokuton for the kyuubi chakra and suppress it.

which is working so well now..right? and besides what makes you think he could catch human sized naruto with those huge trees while also worrying about obitos edo jins/bijuus? mokuton < bijuudama from what ive seen

Hashirama and Madara mid difficulty.

what have they shown that can match a rinnegan user?

 

[History]

Naruto really drags Obito down here...

how when naruto > obito dont underrate naruto he can take eithere of them 1v1

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

i didnt see naruto defeating obi. in fact i saw him pretty freaking helpless without kakashi and bee. kishi was trying to make it perfectly clear obitos superior

 

[TheSages456]

how? hes proven far superior to hashirama whos done nothing and has no feats

main character powers. and i wasnt aware naruto was fighting alive EMS madara when i clearly saw a mokuton there. and i clearly saw madara have edo cracks. but whatever.

hows he gonna do that? naruto swamps "perfect" susano in a clone army till madara gets tired.

which is working so well now..right? and besides what makes you think he could catch human sized naruto with those huge trees while also worrying about obitos edo jins/bijuus? mokuton < bijuudama from what ive seen

what have they shown that can match a rinnegan user?

i didnt know that edo madara was using his full power which comes from his ems but whatever. naruto is having trouble with madaras lower scale techs but he will surely take out perfect susano. nice logic there.