Tobirama Timeline.

[Jiraiyas lost student]

Im no DrProof, but something doesnt make sense to me...

Madara said that only Hashirama could beat him, but we hear from various others that Tobirama was just as skilled, or even more so than Hashirama, such as Minato saying that Tobiramas S/T techs were just as good as hiraishin, or that he was the most skilled water user ever.

this got me thinking, its known that Tobirama was Second Hokage, and is most likely younger than Hashirama. When Madara fought Hashirama, Tobirama was younger, less experianced and most likley didnt have all his abilities yet.

my thought was that Madara said that only Hashirama could beat him because he didnt know what Tobirama was capable of. it would make sense that Madara didnt see Tobirama as a threat, because he was overshadowed by his older brother (much like sasuke was overshadowed by itachi until itachi was dead.)

I guess what im asking is, could it be that Tobirama was just as strong at his time of death as Hashirama was when he fought Madara? Its clear that hashi had that edge do to healing ablitys and Wood release, but does Tobirama being a sensor and his S/T make him even with non-edo-rinnegan Madara?

 

[shogun973]

shut up now...he got killed by 20 while raikages smacking around 100,000

 

[Byakuya K]

wow i don't know man

 

[Simple Math]

Hashi was stronger, and was probably just a bad matchup for Madara. his wood dragon was able to bind the kyuubi, cant imagine how he beat perfect susanoo.

 

[DrProof]

shut up now...he got killed by 20 while raikages smacking around 100,000

Chill out. It's not that serious.

 

[KingHashirama]

= To EMS Madara. Both were under him. Probably never fought due to Madara being the leader and all.

 

[Simple Math]

shut up now...he got killed by 20 while raikages smacking around 100,000

those 20 could've have been elite ninjas (around Kakashi's level) while those 10,000 could have been fodders (around Ebisu's level)

 

['Nāpalm]

I do not approve of this thread U_U just implausible

 

[DrProof]

shut up now...he got killed by 20 while raikages smacking around 100,000

Chill out. It's not that serious.

On Topic: It's very possible although we haven't seen Tobirama fully so.. That kind of throws people off, and they doubt his capabilities.. Overall Tobirama in the end probably was a major threat. Nice thinking bro.

 

[TheAwesomeOne]

The manga has stated that Madara=Izuna=Tobirama=Hashirama . They were all equal to each other in power.

 

[DrProof]

The manga has stated that Madara=Izuna=Tobirama=Hashirama . They were all equal to each other in power.

Seriously?? Where, I want to see I can finally prove these trolls wrong.

 

[Hipster Madara]

Emmm don't overrate Tobirama

 

[Jiraiyas lost student]

You know as well as i that im not overrating him. Im asking what others think of him, i personally think that when he died he was just under EMS Madara, but ive seen others put him above Hashi or under Kakashi, so i wanted to know what the overall thoughts were.

 

[Hus]

I'm a big fan of Tobirama
but I don't Measures a man about what he can do I Respect him about what he accomplished
thats why I rate the kages like that:
1- Minsto
2- Hashirama
3- Tobirama
4- Saratobi
5- tsunade ( still has a chanse to do batter)

 

[Carlhens]

I doubt he was on hashi level

 

[KingHashirama]

those 20 could've have been elite ninjas (around Kakashi's level) while those 10,000 could have been fodders (around Ebisu's level)

Kinkaku force = Elite Cloud ninja.

 

[ryan221]

In those 20 were Kinkaku and Ginkaku wielding the Sage of the Six Paths tools.

 

[TheAwesomeOne]

Seriously?? Where, I want to see I can finally prove these trolls wrong.

Yes. It has said that Madara=Hashirama and Madara=Izuna and that Hashirama=Tobirama so that means: Madara=Izuna=Tobirama=Hashirama.

 

[DrProof]

In those 20 were Kinkaku and Ginkaku wielding the Sage of the Six Paths tools.

While they also possess Nine Tailed Chakra, and had Six Tail Transformation.. Even more of a threat..

Yes. It has said that Madara=Hashirama and Madara=Izuna and that Hashirama=Tobirama so that means: Madara=Izuna=Tobirama=Hashirama.

Where though?

 

[badoera]

shut up now...he got killed by 20 while raikages smacking around 100,000

There's a difference in fighting 10.000 fodders (genin/chunin and maybe few jounins)

and

Fighting the Ginkaku force .. ( Kin - Gin bro's + 18 other elite hunter ninja)