Amaterasu isnt as instant as we think.

[Turson]

In the last link, you can clearly see on the down right panel that Amaterasu was already fired when Raikage still was not moving. It means that Raikage got out of Amaterasu's way AFTER it was already fired. Getting out of something's way requires speed, which requires times. It is then obvious that Amaterasu required time (little, but some) to reach Raikage in the first place.

In other words, this page is an ultimate proof that Amaterasu is not instant.

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I think that it only shows how A fooled Sasukes eyesight. Amaterasu was appearing so many times in manga that its clear how that attack works. As long as you can focus your eyesight on target it is instant, just like Kamui.

 

[genii96]

No, you dont uderstand. It appears in initial phase, and travells further like any other technique only if its miss its original rarget.

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Amaterasu appears and hits it target. You can clearly see this.

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Amaterasu appears, but misses its original target. If flies further on.

as i said,you contradicted uself.
The last panel,clearly shows that the ama was moving towards the raikage before he moved,and he saw it and evaded. He didnt move out of the line of sight,he evaded ama after it was launched at him,this is actually proof that ama isnt instant.thanx

 

[Takos]

I think that it only shows how A fooled Sasukes eyesight. Amaterasu was appearing so many times in manga that its clear how that attack works. As long as you can focus your eyesight on target it is instant, just like Kamui.

Nope, it's not only that A fooled Sasuke's eyesight. We have another example of Amaterasu travelling, right here:

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Two clear examples of it are enough proof to state that Amaterasu is not instant, but travels, if you ask me. Even if other examples of Amaterasu don't show it travelling, don't forget that manga shows events panel by panel and not continuously. It's perfectly possible that Amaterasu's travel occurs between panels. This is evidenced by those two examples of Amaterasu's travel presented.

 

[Retsu]

I don't get how ppl claim amaterasu doesn't travel, yet A clearly dodged it as though it were a projectile, I think it does travel

 

[Boskarta]

Nope, it's not only that A fooled Sasuke's eyesight. We have another example of Amaterasu travelling, right here:

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Two clear examples of it are enough proof to state that Amaterasu is not instant, but travels, if you ask me. Even if other examples of Amaterasu don't show it travelling, don't forget that manga shows events panel by panel and not continuously. It's perfectly possible that Amaterasu's travel occurs between panels. This is evidenced by those two examples of Amaterasu's travel presented.

Exactly, that's perfect proof.
And no way is Sasuke faster than A naturally that's beyond ridiculous so it does travel.

Vs A the target wasn't very far away so it's speed is decreased with distance which makes sense.
It's speed isn't on par with Kamui either if Kakashi were using Amaterasu on Deidara back at the start of part II then it would have been traveling like that scan since the target was moving.


It's not unbeatable at all Sasuke's is only hard to beat since he can use it as a shield too, anyone else if you get to a blind spot they're doomed.

 

[Turson]

Nope, it's not only that A fooled Sasuke's eyesight. We have another example of Amaterasu travelling, right here:

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In that moment Sasuke was escaping from Itachis eyesight. As fast as Itachi laid his eyes on Sasuke younger bros wing started to burn.

Even if other examples of Amaterasu don't show it travelling, don't forget that manga shows events panel by panel and not continuously.

So what, Amaterasu bursts out of eyeball? Sorry, I cant imagine it.

 

[Takos]

So what, Amaterasu bursts out of eyeball? Sorry, I cant imagine it.

...or right in front of the eyeball. Just like the fireball does not burst out of mouth, but the flame is created right in front of mouth.

As for you explanation of Sasuke VS Itachi amaterasu, it's POSSIBLE that this is the reason. But there's still the case of Raikage, who stood definitely in straight line to Sasuke's eyesight and Amaterasu was still shown travelling to him, and later travelling to the samurai.

 

[Turson]

As for you explanation of Sasuke VS Itachi amaterasu, it's POSSIBLE that this is the reason. But there's still the case of Raikage, who stood definitely in straight line to Sasuke's eyesight and Amaterasu was still shown travelling to him, and later travelling to the samurai.

I didnt see Amaterasu travell at that moment. It appeared, missed its original target (A) and flew to samurai.

 

[Takos]

I didnt see Amaterasu travell at that moment. It appeared, missed its original target (A) and flew to samurai.

Down right panel: Amaterasu flame is shown in front of Raikage.
Next panel: Raikage is shown to have moved.

In other words, Raikage moved AFTER Amaterasu was already fired.

 

[Champ]

If you not as fast as A v2 to escape the Sharingan's vision, then you'll be hit with Amaterasu

 

[Turson]

Down right panel: Amaterasu flame is shown in front of Raikage.
Next panel: Raikage is shown to have moved.

In other words, Raikage moved AFTER Amaterasu was already fired.

I think that page just displays how A fooled Sharingan eyesight. In other words, it was from Sasukes perspective. A was just too fast to completely focus his eyesight on him.

 

[Retsu]

I think that page just displays how A fooled Sharingan eyesight. In other words, it was from Sasukes perspective. A was just too fast to completely focus his eyesight on him.

even so, the point remains that with enough speed you can avoid it, or place something in it's path to shield yourself.

 

[Takos]

I think that page just displays how A fooled Sharingan eyesight. In other words, it was from Sasukes perspective. A was just too fast to completely focus his eyesight on him.

Why would the Ama flame then travel to the Samurai? Isn't it more logical that the flame started travelling on the very beginning and simply continued its travel after A moved away?

 

[Turson]

even so, the point remains that with enough speed you can avoid it, or place something in it's path to shield yourself.

Of course, I never said that its otherwise. All techniques can be countered if you are fast enough.

Why would the Ama flame then travel to the Samurai? Isn't it more logical that the flame started travelling on the very beginning and simply continued its travel after A moved away?

Becuase its the way that works? It appears in initial phase, and if it miss its initial target it flies forward. I dont see anything strange about it.

 

[Takos]

Becuase its the way that works? It appears in initial phase, and if it miss its initial target it flies forward. I dont see anything strange about it.

It definitely did not work this way in Itachi VS Sasuke fight. Itachi was trying to follow Sasuke with his eyesight, but his ama flames did not travel further after missing.

 

[Turson]

It definitely did not work this way in Itachi VS Sasuke fight. Itachi was trying to follow Sasuke with his eyesight, but his ama flames did not travel further after missing.

It did. It were those flames that ignited the forest around Uchiha tample.

 

[Takos]

It did. It were those flames that ignited the forest around Uchiha tample.

Hmm. Now, that's possible. rep for a valid point.
It still didn't prove that Ama travels only after missing and not from the beginning, but I think we won't be able to prove our points any further.

 

[Turson]

Hmm. Now, that's possible. rep for a valid point.
It still didn't prove that Ama travels only after missing and not from the beginning, but I think we won't be able to prove our points any further.

True. I also dont want to drag this on.

 

[genii96]

It did. It were those flames that ignited the forest around Uchiha tample.

actually,the fire that ignited the forest was the one he first fired when sasuke was running that looked like a blob of fire flung at sasuje,similiar to the one sasuke fires at A,once he started folloeing sasuke,the flames didnt move around anymore and kept travelling towards him like a stream