Every Jutsu Has A Weakness...(Kamui)

[Microsword57]

Kakashi's Kamui

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*Note ignore the Red Underline on the Picture i was searching for a Databook entry of Kamui

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I am a strong believer of Itachi's words[

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]. Kakashi's Kamui is is extremely powerful don't get me wrong, but just like every other Jutsu in Naruto it has it's weaknesses. To defeat Kamui you have to realize the mechanics to how it works. Kamui teleports anything in the Sharingan's sight that is focused on into another Dimensional void[

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]. This is not a Jutsu that travels[

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]. The Jutsu's Weaknesses lies in it's Mechanics. "Kamui teleports anything in the Sharingan's sight" meaning it would work vice-versa as well. During Sasuke and Kakashi's Short battle, Sasuke shot a Susanoo Arrow toward Kakashi and Kakashi used Kamui to teleport it[

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]. How would this work in a Vice-Versa way? Well think about this. If Kakashi aimed to Kamui Sasuke and Sasuke used a Susanoo Arrow in the same manner. The Susanoo Arrow would block Kakashi's view of Sasuke and the Arrow instead would be sent into the Dimensional Realm. We All understand how Amaterasu and Kamui work in the same manner. So think back to Sasuke vs Itachi during their Fireball Clash[

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]. Itachi used Amaterasu and Sasuke was not hit with it. This being because Amaterasu ignites on what is in the Sharingan's line of sight. Sasuke's fireball was infront of Itachi. Thus, Itachi could not see Sasuke only the flames infront of his vision causing the Amaterasu to swallow the fireball jutsu instead[

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]. If the Fireball was not infront of Itachi's eyes and only Sasuke was, then Sasuke would have been incinerated. Basicly every ninja has something in their arensal to protect them from this kind of Kamui attack. Sasuke could use a Susanoo Arrow or Fireball as mentioned above. Gaara's Sand could stay infront of gaara's entire body keeping him from Kakashi's sight and using the 3rd to see[

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]. Naruto's Clones are his exact body size. Standing behind a clone would cause Kamui to teleport the clone or use clones to confuse Kakashi's Sight. Even Sakura who is very underestimated could smash the ground causing debris to block her face from Kakashi's Sight[

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]. She would need to hit the ground at a much larger scale to fabricate larger debris that would cover her face but this would indeed work. She could also lift the Boulder and through it towards Kakashi being as large as a boulder is the is large enough to block his sight of her. Possibilities are endless to block Kamui.
Jutsu such as Earth Wall[

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] and Water Wall[

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] would also work. Any Jutsu that can block the one's entire body or even just the part that your aiming for would prevent Kamui from hitting the Inital target. Even Something as Narrow as Susanoo arrow would work because of the speed. Speed is also a counter. The Susanoo arrow reaches close enough to Kakashi eye that it becomes larger. As you know the closer you are to something the larger it is and the further away the small.

Obito's Kamui

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Obito's Kamui as great it's uses are it also has a weakness. The Weakness are expose directly in the manga. One major setback is the Jutsu having two powers but only being one jutsu[

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]. With Obito's Kamui being 1 Jutsu he can not use both parts at the same time[

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]. This makes him materialize when he absorbs[

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]During the time of absorbing he is vulnerable to attacks[

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]. Konan infused paper bombs within her normal paper and detonated them while being absorbed causing obito to be hit[

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]. Another weakness pointed out by the manga is that he can only stay in the kamui dimension for 5mins[

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]. Konan has demonstrated to us that while it is difficult to do attacking Obito during his absorbing is possible and is a weakness. Methods of landing these attacks on Obito are surrounding him[

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]. If you surround Obito he will not have any route to use as an escape when he is solid again. For Obito to teleport away he would have to become solid and that would be a moment to strike. Konan had the upper-hand until she charged in.

 

[FallingLeaf]

ok.... we alrdy know that tho right? but still true

 

[xMadara]

Nice thread bro/sis I see your points.

 

[Microsword57]

ok.... we alrdy know that tho right? but still true

I agree it probably was known but you do still get those messages extremely often of people claiming Kakashi can Kamui heads killing his opponent. This was mainly for Kakashi's purposes but I notice not many understand Obito's jutsu even though it hsa been emphasized.

 

[Harry Balzac]

That's what Prophet Itachi said. His words are biblical.

 

[iHawk]

use paragraphs please

 

[Mini Gaara]

ofcourse it has a weakness the weakness is take the persons eye out

 

[Carlhens]

u still find a way to get beat by one of them

 

[Byakuya K]

Another weakness is of course chakra usage.

 

[Microsword57]

ofcourse it has a weakness the weakness is take the persons eye out

I like this Lmao.... It would have made the thread shorter.

 

[Microsword57]

Another weakness is of course chakra usage.

I did not add this because this is more of a side affect, and after Kakashi in recent chapters people will attempt to rebuttal me by guessing how many Kamui Kakashi has used. I wanted to be more original as well

 

[Bogard]

It's common knowledge that every jutsu must have a weakness. Not only Itachi said that, but Obito also when Kabuto thought Edo Tensei had no weakness. But it's not because a jutsu has a weakness that you have counters to deal against them. It's not because Perfect Susanoo has weaknesses that Kages could defeat it. It's not because Chibaku tensei has weaknesses that Itachi could defeat it alone, it's not because kamui has weaknesses that Sasuke has what it takes to deal with it, so no i strongly disagree with what you said concerning the arrows(btw it was 2arrows, not just one)

 

[Microsword57]

It's common knowledge that every jutsu must have a weakness. Not only Itachi said that, but Obito also when Kabuto thought Edo Tensei had no weakness. But it's not because a jutsu has a weakness that you have counters to deal against them. It's not because Perfect Susanoo has weaknesses that Kages could defeat it. It's not because Chibaku tensei has weaknesses that Itachi could defeat it alone, it's not because kamui has weaknesses that Sasuke has what it takes to deal with it, so no i strongly disagree with what you said concerning the arrows(btw it was 2arrows, not just one)

Your Opinion is your opinion and I will not attempt to change your mind. I do however want to mention that not all Weaknesses are as obvious as others. Would you mind telling me the weakness to FTG?
Edit: Is the point your trying to make that just because you know a weakness the does not mean you can defeat the Jutsu?

 

[huzaifa555]

ahm we know this.

 

[Bogard]

Your Opinion is your opinion and I will not attempt to change your mind. I do however want to mention that not all Weaknesses are as obvious as others. Would you mind telling me the weakness to FTG?
Edit: Is the point your trying to make that just because you know a weakness the does not mean you can defeat the Jutsu?

Yep, for example you want to take informations out of somebody, and you know that for it to happen you must cast a genjutsu, so we can say that genjutsu is a sort of weakness, but not everybody is a genjutsu typ, so if you're not a genjutsu typ, even if you know the weakness, you simply don't have what it takes to collect information out of him, and at that time you will need a partner who can do the job. So knowing a weakness doesn't mean everyone has what it takes to deal against a jutsu.

Obito for example himself acknowledge the fact that every jutsu has a weakness(so including his own kamui), but it doesn't mean it's easy to counter

Concerning the weakness of FTG, it's simple. FTG needs a jutsu shiki to mark the destination. Without the jutsu Shiki, FTG simply doesn't exist

 

[SageObito]

Yep every jutsu has a weakness thats very true

 

[Microsword57]

Yep, for example you want to take informations out of somebody, and you know that for it to happen you must cast a genjutsu, so we can say that genjutsu is a sort of weakness, but not everybody is a genjutsu typ, so if you're not a genjutsu typ, even if you know the weakness, you simply don't have what it takes to collect information out of him, and at that time you will need a partner who can do the job. So knowing a weakness doesn't mean everyone has what it takes to deal against a jutsu.

Obito for example himself acknowledge the fact that every jutsu has a weakness(so including his own kamui), but it doesn't mean it's easy to counter

Concerning the weakness of FTG, it's simple. FTG needs a jutsu shiki to mark the destination. Without the jutsu Shiki, FTG simply doesn't exist

That is not a weakness of they are getting information from because that works on for many ninjas, but it actually a weakness in the one who does not have Genjutsu. He is weak in the Genjutsu department and that ninja he wants to get information out of is using that weakness against him by refusing to reveal information correct? FTG on the other has has Seals on the Kunai and the User can place seals on anything they touch. The was also a case were 3 Special trainer Shinobi use the FTG Without a physical Seal placed[

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]. The formation of how they stood was a Substitute for this. Obito did not "acknowledge" his weakness he simply knew of them. Just as Itachi knew he could not spam Amaterasu during the meetin with Jiraiya but Itachi admits he was not capable of acknowledging that he could not do everything[

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[Bogard]

That is not a weakness of they are getting information from because that works on for many ninjas, but it actually a weakness in the one who does not have Genjutsu. He is weak in the Genjutsu department and that ninja he wants to get information out of is using that weakness against him by refusing to reveal information correct? FTG on the other has has Seals on the Kunai and the User can place seals on anything they touch. The was also a case were 3 Special trainer Shinobi use the FTG Without a physical Seal placed[

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]. The formation of how they stood was a Substitute for this.

The thing was to show you that even if you know a jutsu weakness it doesn't mean you have what it takes to deal against it. Like Itachi said, he was the perfect one to stop Edo tensei. Even if Naruto is thousand times stronger than Kabuto, he would have failed the mission to stop Edo Tensei simply because he doesn't have what it takes to do so(genjutsu)

Concerning FTG, what's important about FTG is the destination, not the departure. There is a certain radius where a FTG user can teleport himself or things(re-read the Kyubi's attack and you will notice that he teleported the Kyubi without touching him while he was far above standing on Gamabunta), but to do that, the destination marking is needed. On the pic you posted concerning the 3bodyguards, the destination was a marking put on Tsunade, that's why when they appeared later, they appeared next to Tsunade

 

[Microsword57]

The thing was to show you that even if you know a jutsu weakness it doesn't mean you have what it takes to deal against it. Like Itachi said, he was the perfect one to stop Edo tensei. Even if Naruto is thousand times stronger than Kabuto, he would have failed the mission to stop Edo Tensei simply because he doesn't have what it takes to do so(genjutsu)

Concerning FTG, what's important about FTG is the destination, not the departure. There is a certain radius where a FTG user can teleport himself or things(re-read the Kyubi's attack and you will notice that he teleported the Kyubi without touching him while he was far above standing on Gamabunta), but to do that, the destination marking is needed. On the pic you posted concerning the 3bodyguards, the destination was a marking put on Tsunade, that's why when they appeared later, they appeared next to Tsunade

Firstly, what I said was to rebuttal that your example was not supportive of your case. Kamui on the other hand can nearly be blocked by every ninja. That was the point in my thread. FTG on the other hand. To say that a counter to FTG is not putting a seal truly doesnt make sense. Explain to me how your going to stop Minato from putting a Seal someone. He is the only Solo user of the Technique and that is what makes it have no Counter.

 

[ANONYMOUS 182]

good thread!!!