Sasuke take Gaara on desert

[genii96]

If Gaara is controlling the sand then it takes chakra, unless you can show me where it says it takes no chakra to do a Sand Tsunami. It's a Hawk not a slug ofcourse it's fast. what is a sand hail goin to do to Sasuke? Chidori Nagashi negates all sand attacks. Mei aimed at Sasuke and he dodged without lookin. Deidara owned Gaara, so will Sasuke


We already know A can chop off someone's limb with his hand, since he did it when Amaterasu was on his arm. When has his Leg kick ever chopped off anyones limb? Oroichamaru was still bound to the wall, he couldn't move his hands. It's funny that you post a Narutopedia link and don't even read it, This technique uses Shape Transformation to form the original Chidori into a spear or blade-shade. It's said it uses the original technique to form a spear, nothing says it's weaker. So since we know it's the same powerful Chidori the same that ripped thru Gaara absolute defense. Chidori shape spear > Gaara sand easy. Chidori Nagashi will repel the sand off him so he'll come up unharmed from and sand attack.


Amaterasu takes no time to launch he doesn't need to focus once he looks at Gaara he'll be on fire. Sand clones like Gaara gets cut in half by a Chidori Shape spear. Susano'o Arrow would go right thru Gaara sand like Madara's magatama did. Gaara needs Onoki to pull him out of Susano'o he not here to save Gaara again. On the ground Sasuke already owned him once he'll do if again.


One Ram from a sick Kimimaro cracked Gaara sand armor no wonder he was scared to get hit again. Sasuke attacked them with enton, Gaara was lucky he didn't have his Arrows yet or he and his family was dead. Lee, Sasuke, Kimimaro all got thru Gaara weak defense. Susano'o already destroyed Kimimaro weak bones. Susano'o > Sand defense



Jokie boy still dodged Gaara sand easy, he only got caught cause he attacked him. Gaara said he was too fast he can't catch Sasuke either. Go look up Enton Arrows then you'll see how easy it will be to make thunder clouds. Gaara sand can't block Chidori, Chidori shape spear, or Susano'o Arrows. Gaara will be dead quick.


You the one saying he has Biju level chakra like I care, when the manga never stated that. Yea he's been healed and had tons of helped. Sasuke surpassed Gaara when he was in Hebi.

i never said it didnt take chakra to control the sand,i said there was no chakra inside the sand that gaara controls,he can control any sand at any location,he just keeps his gourd sand which has his chakra woth him so as to allow faster and stronger attacks as well as even better control.sand hail was used yo attack 3 kages,and his dad needed to protect them,chidori nagashi wont help at all against sand boulders dropping on him,not to mention that he can't do it on a hawk as he will electrocute the hawk,even if the hawk can miraculously dodge gaara's sand attacks,sasuke can't use susanoo on it,can't use chidori spear,can't use chidori nagashi,is basically defenseless on the hawk,he has no experience fighting on a hawk and gaara easily outclasses him in an air fight,whether sasuke is looking or not dosent matter,he can only run for so long,and that featless bird would be easily downed by sand hail.

So if A could chop off his own arm while with no raiton armour,and couls chop off hachibi's horn in v1,you are saying he can't chop off a limb of a human who is nowhere near as durable as him in v2?,that's ridiculous,just because he hasnt chopped off anyone's limb with his v2 dropkick dosent mean it wont chop off,especially since he has chopped off limns and even horns of a bijuu in weaker forms.maybe u shud read it again,it says it is less powerful than the chidori,but is of less risk bcos the attack is mid range,i'd like to see chidori or chidori spear tear through a dessert worth of sand,sasuke would be long dead b4 he even realizes.

Gaara blocked instant attacks already,whether ama can hit him or not is pointless,sand armour easily fends off ama flames,then gaara uses a sand sphere and then uses the dessert sand to crush sasuke.he doent need onoki's help,the sand is already under sasuke,so he can kill sasuke easy,and sasuke on the ground of a dessert against gaara gets killed in seconds.

Cs2 bones of kimi hit gaara at full charge and only managed to crack his sand armour,over 6 people have breached susanoos weak defence in months of it's arrival,susanoo cut kimi's bones,but 5 couldnt hit gaara,sand defence>susanoo

joki boy dodged gaara easy bcos gaara was stalling,when gaara was ready with the gold,he caught joki instantly,he has no reason to stall here,thunderclouds arent happening in a dessert,neither is kirin.chidori and chidori sharp spear are swatted aside by a dessert of sand,susnaoo arrows are easily redirected.

His chakra isnt a problem,whether bijuu lvl or not,it's still spades above those of sasuke,and i wasnt talking abt chaka.his dad mistook him for shukaku itself,a bijuu,his power is bijuu level.

 

[Champ]

i never said it didnt take chakra to control the sand,i said there was no chakra inside the sand that gaara controls,he can control any sand at any location,he just keeps his gourd sand which has his chakra woth him so as to allow faster and stronger attacks as well as even better control.sand hail was used yo attack 3 kages,and his dad needed to protect them,chidori nagashi wont help at all against sand boulders dropping on him,not to mention that he can't do it on a hawk as he will electrocute the hawk,even if the hawk can miraculously dodge gaara's sand attacks,sasuke can't use susanoo on it,can't use chidori spear,can't use chidori nagashi,is basically defenseless on the hawk,he has no experience fighting on a hawk and gaara easily outclasses him in an air fight,whether sasuke is looking or not dosent matter,he can only run for so long,and that featless bird would be easily downed by sand hail.

So if A could chop off his own arm while with no raiton armour,and couls chop off hachibi's horn in v1,you are saying he can't chop off a limb of a human who is nowhere near as durable as him in v2?,that's ridiculous,just because he hasnt chopped off anyone's limb with his v2 dropkick dosent mean it wont chop off,especially since he has chopped off limns and even horns of a bijuu in weaker forms.maybe u shud read it again,it says it is less powerful than the chidori,but is of less risk bcos the attack is mid range,i'd like to see chidori or chidori spear tear through a dessert worth of sand,sasuke would be long dead b4 he even realizes.

Gaara blocked instant attacks already,whether ama can hit him or not is pointless,sand armour easily fends off ama flames,then gaara uses a sand sphere and then uses the dessert sand to crush sasuke.he doent need onoki's help,the sand is already under sasuke,so he can kill sasuke easy,and sasuke on the ground of a dessert against gaara gets killed in seconds.

Cs2 bones of kimi hit gaara at full charge and only managed to crack his sand armour,over 6 people have breached susanoos weak defence in months of it's arrival,susanoo cut kimi's bones,but 5 couldnt hit gaara,sand defence>susanoo

joki boy dodged gaara easy bcos gaara was stalling,when gaara was ready with the gold,he caught joki instantly,he has no reason to stall here,thunderclouds arent happening in a dessert,neither is kirin.chidori and chidori sharp spear are swatted aside by a dessert of sand,susnaoo arrows are easily redirected.

His chakra isnt a problem,whether bijuu lvl or not,it's still spades above those of sasuke,and i wasnt talking abt chaka.his dad mistook him for shukaku itself,a bijuu,his power is bijuu level.

Madara Yasaka Magatama got through Gaara sand

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It took Gaara's sand + Onoki's rock golem to stop Madara Magatama's.

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Onoki won't be there to save Gaara from Sasuke Arrows which will rip right through Gaara sand

 

[genii96]

Madara Yasaka Magatama got through Gaara sand

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It took Gaara's sand + Onoki's rock golem to stop Madara Magatama's.

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Onoki won't be there to save Gaara from Sasuke Arrows which will rip right through Gaara sand

first of all,hashi enhanced ems madara>>>>>ems sasuke,so comparing them is useless,and gaara dosent need to block the arrows,although he can easily,he can just redirect them,just as danzo did,if not easier. Gaara would bury sasuke and turn him to dust in mere minutes.

 

[Champ]

first of all,hashi enhanced ems madara>>>>>ems sasuke,so comparing them is useless,and gaara dosent need to block the arrows,although he can easily,he can just redirect them,just as danzo did,if not easier. Gaara would bury sasuke and turn him to dust in mere minutes.

So Hashirama gave Madara a Perfect Susano'o too? Gaara couldn't even stop Madara's magatama without Onoki. He will be killed by Sasuke Arrows

 

[genii96]

So Hashirama gave Madara a Perfect Susano'o too? Gaara couldn't even stop Madara's magatama without Onoki. He will be killed by Sasuke Arrows

sasuke dosent have perfect susanoo,and like i said,if gaara dosent block it,he just redirects it did,except even easier,sasuke's arrow cudnt even destroy a pillar,and quit comparing sasuke to madara,his magatama is obviously above sasuke's arrow

 

[Icelerate]

sasuke dosent have perfect susanoo,and like i said,if gaara dosent block it,he just redirects it did,except even easier,sasuke's arrow cudnt even destroy a pillar,and quit comparing sasuke to madara,his magatama is obviously above sasuke's arrow

Sasuke wasn't even fighting to kill against Kabuto so those arrows weren't at full power. Anyway Sasuke would win but since the location is a desert, I don't think he'll overcome it.

Still during a lightning storm, Gaara would get raped because Sasuke would be able to spam kirin.

 

[genii96]

Sasuke wasn't even fighting to kill against Kabuto so those arrows weren't at full power. Anyway Sasuke would win but since the location is a desert, I don't think he'll overcome it.

Still during a lightning storm, Gaara would get raped because Sasuke would be able to spam kirin.

whether it was at full power or not,it still gets redirected. Sasuke can't spam kirin,after 1 shot the cloud dissapears as seen in the itachi fight,and didnt kirin get tanked by an incomplete susanoo?,and just destroy a hideout?,not much of a rape move,considering gaara took a nuke.

 

[Microsword57]

sasuke dosent have perfect susanoo,and like i said,if gaara dosent block it,he just redirects it did,except even easier,sasuke's arrow cudnt even destroy a pillar,and quit comparing sasuke to madara,his magatama is obviously above sasuke's arrow

I'm not on any side in this argument but what your saying about Susanoo Arrow is absurd. Susanoo Arrow has Never been block nor would the Technique be blocked by Gaara's Sand. First you claim that the Susanoo Arrow could not destroy the Pillar therefore making it weak[

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]. The nature of the Susanoo Arrow or any Arrow is to Pierce/Puncture it's target not to destroy. Thus, Arrows have a point, a sharp end. Their is a major difference between Pierce and Destroy. Chidori and Rasengan are two techniques that we are all familiar with and they are one of the best examples of this difference[

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]. While Sasuke's Chidori Pierced clean through the tank, the tank was not destroyed just pierced. While as Naruto's Rasengan completely blew the back off the tank. It's an impact, and impacts are meant to blow up and destroy their targets. Now that you have a feel of the differences lets refer back to the picture you using to claim the Susanoo Arrow as weak. We now know that the Susanoo Arrow being a piercing technique like Chidori is meant to go through the target but not destroy. Susanoo Arrow achieve what it's purpose is and that is to pierce the target and make it all the way through[

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]. As you reading this refer back to the picture after the last sentence. You can now see the picture from a different angle in the top left panel. It shows Susanoo from a front view. This means we see Kabuto from a Rear view. Behind Kabuto is the Pillar. Now we see that the Arrow is through it meaning it did clearing pierce through. Piercing attacks are intended purpose is to penetrate defenses[

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]. Which is why Chidori has never been blocked. Chidori has been countered but never blocked. Piercing techniques are Unblockable. Susanoo Arrow is a Piercing Technique and is also Unblockable. Piercing Techniques rely on speed to Penetrate[

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]. This is why Kakashi worked on Sasuke speed and had him copy lee's style of fighting. The greater the speed the greater the Penetration power. Speed is a requirement for a Sucessful Pierce. Susanoo Arrow's speed is always being emphasized. Interrupting Danzo's handseals.[

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]. Gaara's Sand redirecting the Susanoo Arrow is pure assumption and based off the how Danzo redirected it Gaara's Chances are significantly low. You make the assumption that gaara's sand is a dense/thick as Hashirama's wood which it's not look at how thick the tree is[

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]. Even with that Susanoo Arrow pierce it with Ease. You make the Assumption that Gaara's Sand is as complex a jutsu as Wood release. Which again it's not. Wood style is a combination of 2 Nature Transformations. Now take another close look at the picture. Even with the Wood style "deflecting" the Susanoo Arrow look how close it still is to Danzo[

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]. The Arrow was barely deflected. With the Sand being less dense that Hashirama's wood that would therefore make the distance the arrow was deflect shorted which means. Even if the Sand did Deflect the Arrow it would not be enough to prevent Gaara from being hit. Gaara's Sand could possibly set up quick enough being "automatic" but it's defense capabilities would not "Block it with ease" or "Deflect" the Susanoo Arrow. There were numerous misconceptions in your statement on Susanoo Arrow and Gaara's Sand blocking it.
I will not deny Gaara defeating Sasuke in a Desert.

 

[genii96]

@ microsoft,i might have been a little too harsh with susanoo arrows,however,danzo's trees arent anywhere near those pf hashirama,he just had a portion of his dna to improve his vitality to ise izanagi,he didnt even have full control of the hashi dna inside him,and thus cudnt actually fully control it,yamato's moukton is obviously better than danzo's own as he can create several trees at once without any problem,while that 1 tree according to karin made danzo's chakra plummet,gaara barely uses handsigns,and he can make a sand wall denser than danzo's incompleye single moukton tree in a dessert can't he?,not to mention the fact that it's a dessert with lots of sand,gaara is able to increase the density of his sand,he blocked c3 in an instant,and his sand is stated as the only thing ama can't burn through,a susanoo sword would cut danzo's wood in half,so i can safely say that gaara's sand is denser than danzo's version of moukton.

Also i am pretty sure gaara can block a susanoo arrow in a dessert,even if it pierced the pillar,it didnt have enough momentum to go through it and continue,and i am pretty sure gaara's sand is above a pillar,i mean do you honestl see an arrow going through 3-4 walls of sand and still having enough momentum to pierce the stronger gourd sand and hit gaara?.

Gaara's gourd sand is denser than danzo's moukton,and he can make more sand without effort,so i am pretty sure his auto defence can redirect susanoo arrows.handseals arent a problem as he barely uses them for defense,and his reactions have allowed him handle instant explosions,so his reaction is also good. Gaara's sand is much denser than a normal tree,temari can cit through metal with ease,can she cut gaara's sand with ease as well?,

 

[Uchiha Warlord]

Sasuke still wins

 

[Microsword57]

@ microsoft,i might have been a little too harsh with susanoo arrows,however,danzo's trees arent anywhere near those pf hashirama,he just had a portion of his dna to improve his vitality to ise izanagi,he didnt even have full control of the hashi dna inside him,and thus cudnt actually fully control it,yamato's moukton is obviously better than danzo's own as he can create several trees at once without any problem,while that 1 tree according to karin made danzo's chakra plummet,gaara barely uses handsigns,and he can make a sand wall denser than danzo's incompleye single moukton tree in a dessert can't he?,not to mention the fact that it's a dessert with lots of sand,gaara is able to increase the density of his sand,he blocked c3 in an instant,and his sand is stated as the only thing ama can't burn through,a susanoo sword would cut danzo's wood in half,so i can safely say that gaara's sand is denser than danzo's version of moukton.

Also i am pretty sure gaara can block a susanoo arrow in a dessert,even if it pierced the pillar,it didnt have enough momentum to go through it and continue,and i am pretty sure gaara's sand is above a pillar,i mean do you honestl see an arrow going through 3-4 walls of sand and still having enough momentum to pierce the stronger gourd sand and hit gaara?.

Gaara's gourd sand is denser than danzo's moukton,and he can make more sand without effort,so i am pretty sure his auto defence can redirect susanoo arrows.handseals arent a problem as he barely uses them for defense,and his reactions have allowed him handle instant explosions,so his reaction is also good. Gaara's sand is much denser than a normal tree,temari can cit through metal with ease,can she cut gaara's sand with ease as well?,

I understand what your arguing. Gaara in the Dessert possesses enough sand to create a defense greater than the tree. This is correct. My argument only applied to Gaara outside of the Dessert. I would not downgrade Danzo's Wood Release. It has the same amount of power as one of Hashirama's that is the reason the Danzo's Chakra plummeted. If this were to be a incomplete version of the Wood Release it would not have been such a tole to perform. Thus, Wood Release would become part of Danzo's arsenal. He would use it more frequently. It can not be assumed that a Susanoo Sword would slash it with ease because what chance would Hashirama have had against Madara. Kishimoto has not use characters like Madara, Danzo , Obito and Yamato to portray how powerful a Ninja Hashirama was since in death he can not use Hashirama himself. You are absolutely correct Susanoo Arrow can be counter but Gaara in the Dessert because having 4 walls with each wall as the Susanoo Arrow hits it's momentum will be drastically lowered and eventually come to a stop. My argument was only for Gaara outside of Dessert. Your original post gave the appearance that Gaara regularly could block a Susanoo Arrow, but I understand the post is Dessert only.
Question: How would Sasuke use a Susanoo Arrow in the Dessert when he needs to be in his final form to use the Arrow? I highly doubt he can be on the Hawk in Final form, who knows? but I doubt it. Susanoo on the floor would mean Gaara could remove Sasuke from the Final Form Susanoo because he is standing on Sand....

 

[genii96]

I understand what your arguing. Gaara in the Dessert possesses enough sand to create a defense greater than the tree. This is correct. My argument only applied to Gaara outside of the Dessert. I would not downgrade Danzo's Wood Release. It has the same amount of power as one of Hashirama's that is the reason the Danzo's Chakra plummeted. If this were to be a incomplete version of the Wood Release it would not have been such a tole to perform. Thus, Wood Release would become part of Danzo's arsenal. He would use it more frequently. It can not be assumed that a Susanoo Sword would slash it with ease because what chance would Hashirama have had against Madara. Kishimoto has not use characters like Madara, Danzo , Obito and Yamato to portray how powerful a Ninja Hashirama was since in death he can not use Hashirama himself. You are absolutely correct Susanoo Arrow can be counter but Gaara in the Dessert because having 4 walls with each wall as the Susanoo Arrow hits it's momentum will be drastically lowered and eventually come to a stop. My argument was only for Gaara outside of Dessert. Your original post gave the appearance that Gaara regularly could block a Susanoo Arrow, but I understand the post is Dessert only.
Question: How would Sasuke use a Susanoo Arrow in the Dessert when he needs to be in his final form to use the Arrow? I highly doubt he can be on the Hawk in Final form, who knows? but I doubt it. Susanoo on the floor would mean Gaara could remove Sasuke from the Final Form Susanoo because he is standing on Sand....

yea,i was talking abt in a dessert only.i am pretty sure it was said that danzo didnt fuly master the dna of hashi,and yamato,who frequently uses moukton,stated that he was nowhere as good as hashi,but he is also able to use moukton to create a small forest,and even supress stages of naruto's transformation,also danzo's tree was easily pierced by that arrow,i am pretty sure than if madara's walkng susanoo took a swing at that tree,it would be cut in half,hashirama was apparently able to face ps(not reeally sure) which wiped out mountains casually,danzo also got a portion of his dna and power,so his moukton would only be a portion of hashi's,i am pretty sure yamato is better than danzo in moukton,but claimed he isnt as good as hashi,which means hashi would naturally be better at it than danzo.

abt the susanoo,i know he can't activate it on the hawk and he needs to be on the ground and he would get pulled out,but apparently my opponent here thinks that sasuke can shoot susanoo arrows,fly around,kill gaara with a chidori spear,stop dessert of sand woth chidori nagashi, etc.

 

[Champ]

sasuke dosent have perfect susanoo,and like i said,if gaara dosent block it,he just redirects it did,except even easier,sasuke's arrow cudnt even destroy a pillar,and quit comparing sasuke to madara,his magatama is obviously above sasuke's arrow

Ofcourse Sasuke doesn't have a Perfect Susano'o yet, if he did Gaara would be killed in seconds. Gaara Sand failed to redirect Madara's Magatama, so how would it redirect Sasuke's Arrows? Madara's Magatama failed to killed let alone pierce Tsunade body at all it did was throw her, if that was a Susano'o Arrow it would ripped right thru her body like Danzo.

 

[genii96]

Ofcourse Sasuke doesn't have a Perfect Susano'o yet, if he did Gaara would be killed in seconds. Gaara Sand failed to redirect Madara's Magatama, so how would it redirect Sasuke's Arrows? Madara's Magatama failed to killed let alone pierce Tsunade body at all it did was throw her, if that was a Susano'o Arrow it would ripped right thru her body like Danzo.

danzo already redirected sasuke's arrow arrow,gaara in the dessert would easily mimic that move,and since a simple rocky pillar was able to halt to momentum of an arrow,then an above steel level wall would easily do the trick. Sasuke needs to be on the ground and activate his final susanoo to use those arrows anyway,he gets killed immediately his foot touches the dessert ground.

 

[Champ]

danzo already redirected sasuke's arrow arrow,gaara in the dessert would easily mimic that move,and since a simple rocky pillar was able to halt to momentum of an arrow,then an above steel level wall would easily do the trick. Sasuke needs to be on the ground and activate his final susanoo to use those arrows anyway,he gets killed immediately his foot touches the dessert ground.

Gaara didn't redirect Madara's Magamata, nope they went right through his sand. Gaara sand burial couldn't even crush Kimimaro body, but Susano'o sliced right through his bones. Susano'o Arrows is a manifestation of chakra like Madara's magatama if they got through the Arrows will too. Gaara sand to slow to catch Joki boy, Sasuke will dodge too.

 

[genii96]

Gaara didn't redirect Madara's Magamata, nope they went right through his sand. Gaara sand burial couldn't even crush Kimimaro body, but Susano'o sliced right through his bones. Susano'o Arrows is a manifestation of chakra like Madara's magatama if they got through the Arrows will too. Gaara sand to slow to catch Joki boy, Sasuke will dodge too.

madara had senju enhanced powers,and coupled with his unlimited chakra,which sasuke dosent have,so comparing the chakra of madara who was said to have the most powerful chakra when he was alive,further enhanced by senju dna,and further empowered by being edo to the chakra of sasuke which is only stated to be darker and sinister dosent help your case,and those magatama's were at least a dozen,the arrows are only one or 2 at a time,so comparing them isnt gonna do much.

13 year old gaara couldnt crush kimi's bones,current gaara blocked a susanoo sword without looking,something that cut through kimi's bones,so gaara's sand can now easily crush kimi's bones,gaara caught joki boy when he got serious in an instant,he caught 3 kages at once,sasuke isnt dodging anything.

Danzo's weak moukton already redirected an arrow,gaara would do the same,and that is assuming sasuke even gets to fire an arrow sonce he will need to be on the dessert floor to do it.

 

[Champ]

madara had senju enhanced powers,and coupled with his unlimited chakra,which sasuke dosent have,so comparing the chakra of madara who was said to have the most powerful chakra when he was alive,further enhanced by senju dna,and further empowered by being edo to the chakra of sasuke which is only stated to be darker and sinister dosent help your case,and those magatama's were at least a dozen,the arrows are only one or 2 at a time,so comparing them isnt gonna do much.

13 year old gaara couldnt crush kimi's bones,current gaara blocked a susanoo sword without looking,something that cut through kimi's bones,so gaara's sand can now easily crush kimi's bones,gaara caught joki boy when he got serious in an instant,he caught 3 kages at once,sasuke isnt dodging anything.

Danzo's weak moukton already redirected an arrow,gaara would do the same,and that is assuming sasuke even gets to fire an arrow sonce he will need to be on the dessert floor to do it.

What power of Madara did Senju enhance? Hashirama DNA only gave him the ability to use Mokuton, and awaken the Rinnegan. are you sayin Hashirama DNA gave him Perfect Susano'o too? Gaara sand didn't stop not one magatama. Onoki golem did, fail on your part. The Arrows which are known for piercing will rip right through Gaara sand. He block a Susano'o sword, Tsunade Broke one in half does that mean Tsuande > Gaara? Gaara sand burial still can't crush Kimimaro bones, and Joki got caught when he attacked Gaara his sand was too slow to catch him. So Danzo had Hashiram DNA in him so no way his Mokuton is weak fail on your part again, Sasuke Arrows went right thru the Mokuton but Onoki rock Golem got destroyed by Mokuton in seconds haha. Gaara couldn't catch Joki boy he definitely won't catch Sasuke who sharingan will foresee the sand moving before it does, anyway Susano'o arrows > Gaara sand.

 

[genii96]

What power of Madara did Senju enhance? Hashirama DNA only gave him the ability to use Mokuton, and awaken the Rinnegan. are you sayin Hashirama DNA gave him Perfect Susano'o too? Gaara sand didn't stop not one magatama. Onoki golem did, fail on your part. The Arrows which are known for piercing will rip right through Gaara sand. He block a Susano'o sword, Tsunade Broke one in half does that mean Tsuande > Gaara? Gaara sand burial still can't crush Kimimaro bones, and Joki got caught when he attacked Gaara his sand was too slow to catch him. So Danzo had Hashiram DNA in him so no way his Mokuton is weak fail on your part again, Sasuke Arrows went right thru the Mokuton but Onoki rock Golem got destroyed by Mokuton in seconds haha. Gaara couldn't catch Joki boy he definitely won't catch Sasuke who sharingan will foresee the sand moving before it does, anyway Susano'o arrows > Gaara sand.

combinng hashirama's dna with his own would increase his own power naturally,hashi's dna increases the physical energy of whoever it is given to,and such allowed danzo to control 10 sharingans at once on his right arm,and use KA daily,rather than every ten years,ontop of that it gives moukton.

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go read those ones,all other forms of moukton except for maybe madara is weaker tha hashirama,danzo didnt fully master hashi's dna,and his moukton wasnt even as good as yamato's version,yamato's dna was completely overwritten,and he could use moukton on a regular basis unlike danzo,yet he claimed he was no where as good as hashirama in moukton,he could barely hold down naruto's jin forms,and without the necklace,he couldnt hold anyone down,hashi could hold down tailed beasts easily and control them,saying danzo's moukton is as good as hashi is a joke,especially since he only got a portion of the dna and power of hashi.gaara's sand and onoki's golem stopped the magatama,it was a combo defence move,they both brought their defences simultaneously to stop the magatamas,and it worked,and madara praised both their defenses. Whether gaara can crush jimi's bones or not is irrelevant,sasuke is not even close as being as durable as base kimi,so comparing their bodies is futile,sasuke would get turned to pulp from a sand burial. Joki attacked a sand clone,the real gaara came out,and attacked him,and caught him easily,the mizukage himself thought joki boy would dodge it,but it got caught easily and he wondered if gaara's sand had gotten faster,sasuke isnt even going to be able to attack,when gaara takes him from below and crushes him.

Danzo had a portion of hashi's dna,he didnt even fully control it,and his moukton tree wasnt as strong as yamato's own,,madara made a forest inan instant,his moukton far outweighs danzo,but it dosent matter,gaara's sand is stronger than tempered steel at it's weaker stages,a rocky pillar stopped the momentum of a susanoo arrow,so gaara's sand will easily do the same,danzo redirected it with an incomplete moukton,gaara easily wiped out a forest at 13 and changed the entire landscape,gaara has a dessert of sand to work with,sasuke,like i said would have to stay in his susanoo on the ground to fire an arrow,and then he gets completely fodderized.

Saske can't foresee any sand,he foresees muscle movement,sand has no muscle,it comes from anywhere,and sasuke can't see behind,above or under him at once,his susanoo is useless as gaara kills him easily while he is inside,sasuke gets killed before he even knows it.

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gaara would absolutley rape,fodderize and bend sasuke in a dessert. It's sand,hat despite all sasuke's powerups from 3t-cs2-ms-ems,and gaara's downgrade from jin to non-jin,he still can't compare,i wonder what his next powerup will bexd.

Oh,and gaara can easily fly,while still raping sasuke with sand tsunamis,sand burials,sand prisons etc,while if sasuke dares to fly,he becomes shy of powerless and is easily outmatched in an air fight by gaara who can easily bring all the sand above,if he stays on the ground,he is dead in seconds.

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sasuke can't hope to handle those,sasuke has no chance.

 

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combinng hashirama's dna with his own would increase his own power naturally,hashi's dna increases the physical energy of whoever it is given to,and such allowed danzo to control 10 sharingans at once on his right arm,and use KA daily,rather than every ten years,ontop of that it gives moukton.

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go read those ones,all other forms of moukton except for maybe madara is weaker tha hashirama,danzo didnt fully master hashi's dna,and his moukton wasnt even as good as yamato's version,yamato's dna was completely overwritten,and he could use moukton on a regular basis unlike danzo,yet he claimed he was no where as good as hashirama in moukton,he could barely hold down naruto's jin forms,and without the necklace,he couldnt hold anyone down,hashi could hold down tailed beasts easily and control them,saying danzo's moukton is as good as hashi is a joke,especially since he only got a portion of the dna and power of hashi.gaara's sand and onoki's golem stopped the magatama,it was a combo defence move,they both brought their defences simultaneously to stop the magatamas,and it worked,and madara praised both their defenses. Whether gaara can crush jimi's bones or not is irrelevant,sasuke is not even close as being as durable as base kimi,so comparing their bodies is futile,sasuke would get turned to pulp from a sand burial. Joki attacked a sand clone,the real gaara came out,and attacked him,and caught him easily,the mizukage himself thought joki boy would dodge it,but it got caught easily and he wondered if gaara's sand had gotten faster,sasuke isnt even going to be able to attack,when gaara takes him from below and crushes him.

Danzo had a portion of hashi's dna,he didnt even fully control it,and his moukton tree wasnt as strong as yamato's own,,madara made a forest inan instant,his moukton far outweighs danzo,but it dosent matter,gaara's sand is stronger than tempered steel at it's weaker stages,a rocky pillar stopped the momentum of a susanoo arrow,so gaara's sand will easily do the same,danzo redirected it with an incomplete moukton,gaara easily wiped out a forest at 13 and changed the entire landscape,gaara has a dessert of sand to work with,sasuke,like i said would have to stay in his susanoo on the ground to fire an arrow,and then he gets completely fodderized.

Saske can't foresee any sand,he foresees muscle movement,sand has no muscle,it comes from anywhere,and sasuke can't see behind,above or under him at once,his susanoo is useless as gaara kills him easily while he is inside,sasuke gets killed before he even knows it.

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gaara would absolutley rape,fodderize and bend sasuke in a dessert. It's sand,hat despite all sasuke's powerups from 3t-cs2-ms-ems,and gaara's downgrade from jin to non-jin,he still can't compare,i wonder what his next powerup will bexd.

Oh,and gaara can easily fly,while still raping sasuke with sand tsunamis,sand burials,sand prisons etc,while if sasuke dares to fly,he becomes shy of powerless and is easily outmatched in an air fight by gaara who can easily bring all the sand above,if he stays on the ground,he is dead in seconds.

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sasuke can't hope to handle those,sasuke has no chance.

Yes I know Hashirama DNA boost your physical energy since Danzo was able to take two Chidori stabs through the chest and still stand , I don't read Narutopedia, besides Danzo may not be a good Mokuton user like Yamato and Madara, but where in the manga did it say Danzo Mokuton is weaker? Madara said it was a good combo even though, Onoki rock golem saved them. Gaara can't crush Kimimaro he can't crush Susano'o. Susano'o > Kimimaro Body > Gaara sand defense. Yes Joki attacked a sand clone, point being Gaara couldn't catch him when he was running. Its when he was in the air in jump and attacked Gaar that hs got caught. The difference is Sasuke has Chidori shape spear to slice thru Gaara he doesn't need to physically touch him.

So cause Madara made a forest his Mokuton is stronger? That only proves he's better at controlling it, where in the manga does it state Danzo Mokuton is weaker than Hashirama. Gaara sand couldn't even stop some Magatama that didn't even kill Tsunade when she got hit. Gaara sand couldn't even stop Kimimaro when he broke through easy and broke off Gaara sand armor. Sharingan sees chakra, controllin sand requires chakra so nothin will catch Sasuke off guard. One of those pics show the one tailed beast arm attacking Deidara, remember Gaara got owned then killed he doesn't have his Bijuu anymore. Gaara can't damage Susano'o nor can he stop a Couple Susano'o arrows. Sasuke owns mid diff at best.

 

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Yes I know Hashirama DNA boost your physical energy since Danzo was able to take two Chidori stabs through the chest and still stand , I don't read Narutopedia, besides Danzo may not be a good Mokuton user like Yamato and Madara, but where in the manga did it say Danzo Mokuton is weaker? Madara said it was a good combo even though, Onoki rock golem saved them. Gaara can't crush Kimimaro he can't crush Susano'o. Susano'o > Kimimaro Body > Gaara sand defense. Yes Joki attacked a sand clone, point being Gaara couldn't catch him when he was running. Its when he was in the air in jump and attacked Gaar that hs got caught. The difference is Sasuke has Chidori shape spear to slice thru Gaara he doesn't need to physically touch him.

So cause Madara made a forest his Mokuton is stronger? That only proves he's better at controlling it, where in the manga does it state Danzo Mokuton is weaker than Hashirama. Gaara sand couldn't even stop some Magatama that didn't even kill Tsunade when she got hit. Gaara sand couldn't even stop Kimimaro when he broke through easy and broke off Gaara sand armor. Sharingan sees chakra, controllin sand requires chakra so nothin will catch Sasuke off guard. One of those pics show the one tailed beast arm attacking Deidara, remember Gaara got owned then killed he doesn't have his Bijuu anymore. Gaara can't damage Susano'o nor can he stop a Couple Susano'o arrows. Sasuke owns mid diff at best.

danzo couldnt fully master hashi cells,he only got a PORTION of hashi's cells,so his moukton would be weaker than hashi,all other forms of moukton are weaker,except probably madara,danzo isnt as good as yamato in moukton,yamato's entire dna was overwritten,so he has more of hashi's power than danzo,so naturally his moukton would be stronger,danzo only has a portion of hashi's cells,dna and power,so his moukton is not as strong as hashi's or even yamato's version.

Madara said it was a good combo bcos it took both to stop it,he never said onoki's golem tanked everything,both were set up and both together stopped the magatamas.gaara dosent need to crush susanoo,he just attacks underneath and turns sasuke to a pile of blood. Gaara caught joki boy the instant he was ready,sasuke's chidori sharp spear is useless,as he will be easily caught by a sand wave and crushed. So you think danzo's moukton is as strong as madara's own?,that' s hilarious. Anyway those magatamas failed to kill tsunade bcos she was using SOH,she survived the speed of light as well,so using her wont do any thing here.

Whether sasuke can see chakra in sand that has no chakra or not is irrelevant,he can't see 360 degrees,and he can't dodge sand coming from every angle,you see that giant sand prison that caught deidara in the air?,yea,gaara can do that on the grond as well,and never in a million years is sasuke dodging that at all.that sand arm was made to look like the shukaku,gaara never used shukaku's power in that fight,if he did,deidara would have been a bloody pile,that sand arm didnt even come out from him,it came out from the dessert sand,so it wasnt shukaku,since shukaku is inside him,the same with shield of shukaku,they all made to resemble the shukaku,so that sand arm still rapes sasuke.

Susanoo arrows as i will keep on sayig,are either blocked by a dessert of sand or redirected by gaara,sasuke wont even have the time to use a susanoo arrow,cuz immediately he tries,he gets screwed.

Sasuke mid diff?,he couldnt dream of getting that outside a dessert,gaara fodderizes low-mid diff,mid if he decides to take it easy,but that's unlikely,and it pretty much leaves low diff.