Mist ninja battle

[fastrthnwind]

Haku and Zabuza vs Kisame
No restrictions
Mindset: kill(even haku)
Location: Team 7 vs Zabuza

Please post your reasonings for which ever side you choose.

 

[Simple Math]

Kisame all day.. his samehada can even absorb their attacks.. if things get serious then he goes into the water drome and rapes Haku, while he is on another level than Zabuza

 

[Icelerate]

Kisame low difficulty. He is far above them power wise and basically, Zabuza's main weapon, the mist is made useless because samehada will suck it up. Someone of Kisame's calibre who dodged Killer Bee's lightning infused pencil at point blank range will have no trouble avoiding Haku's ice crystal shards.

Kisame also has better skills in kenjutsu and will constantly weaken his opponent by sucking their chakra right out of them. None of them have answers to Kisame's various powerful water jutsus.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Kisame low difficulty. He is far above them power wise and basically, Zabuza's main weapon, the mist is made useless because samehada will suck it up. Someone of Kisame's calibre who dodged Killer Bee's lightning infused pencil at point blank range will have no trouble avoiding Haku's ice crystal shards.

Kisame also has better skills in kenjutsu and will constantly weaken his opponent by sucking their chakra right out of them. None of them have answers to Kisame's various powerful water jutsus.

While he could suck up the chakra using same yada, he has to do it before Zabuza finds him first. Same yada won't simply suck up all of the chakra in the mist because it is spread out too far over a distance.

Bee threw one lightning infused pencil at Kisame which he barely dodged in time. Haku can create multiple ice shards that are much bigger and stronger than that and use it against him.

I highly doubt that Kisame has better kenjutsu skills than another swordsman who's fighting style is based around his swordplay. Haku can turn any surrounding water into ice form, which is capable of halting Kisame in his tracks should he be present in it. Not only that, but his ice mirrors would allow him to appear anywhere he chooses and attack from either within them using senbon, which he has great accuracy using, or out of them with with a physical attack, which is very fast and would be difficult to counter in itself.

 

[Icelerate]

While he could suck up the chakra using same yada, he has to do it before Zabuza finds him first. Same yada won't simply suck up all of the chakra in the mist because it is spread out too far over a distance.

Still Kisame also has sensory capabilities so silent killing isn't working on him. I'm quite certain that Kisame had also learned silent killing since he was also a Kirigakure ninja much like Zabuza. I'm sure he could counter Zabuza just fine.

Bee threw one lightning infused pencil at Kisame which he barely dodged in time. Haku can create multiple ice shards that are much bigger and stronger than that and use it against him.

He dodged it at point blank range which is very impressive. Those ice shards were dodged by Sasuke pretty easily. The same Sasuke that got blitzed by Lee, the same Lee who is nothing compared to Gai, the same Gai that fought against a handicapped Kisame.

I highly doubt that Kisame has better kenjutsu skills than another swordsman who's fighting style is based around his swordplay. Haku can turn any surrounding water into ice form, which is capable of halting Kisame in his tracks should he be present in it. Not only that, but his ice mirrors would allow him to appear anywhere he chooses and attack from either within them using senbon, which he has great accuracy using, or out of them with with a physical attack, which is very fast and would be difficult to counter in itself.

Still Zabuza would get weakened as time went on. If Haku causes injuries, Kisame could simply heal via samehada or just outright tank it cause he is such a durable beast.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Still Kisame also has sensory capabilities so silent killing isn't working on him. I'm quite certain that Kisame had also learned silent killing since he was also a Kirigakure ninja much like Zabuza. I'm sure he could counter Zabuza just fine.

What sensory abilities has Kisame displayed other than when he was fused with samehada? Kisame also hasn't been trained in the same arts of silent killing like Zabuza because he is a hunter-nin, whereas Kisame worked with the intel corps.

He dodged it at point blank range which is very impressive. Those ice shards were dodged by Sasuke pretty easily. The same Sasuke that got blitzed by Lee, the same Lee who is nothing compared to Gai, the same Gai that fought against a handicapped Kisame.

Sasuke didn't dodge those very easily because he had to build all chakra into his legs to barely escape it. Kisame is considerably faster, but haku can keep up with him in the speed department and keep attacking him with a barrage of senbon/ice shards.

Still Zabuza would get weakened as time went on. If Haku causes injuries, Kisame could simply heal via samehada or just outright tank it cause he is such a durable beast.

He would be getting weaker, but Kisame would also be attacked by haku, who can cause fatal injuries with his senbon or could use the ice dome and blitz him completely/shower him with senbon.

 

[Icelerate]

What sensory abilities has Kisame displayed other than when he was fused with samehada? Kisame also hasn't been trained in the same arts of silent killing like Zabuza because he is a hunter-nin, whereas Kisame worked with the intel corps.

True but he should have some knowledge on the way silent killing works since he is a member of the seven swordsmen and an elite Kirigakure ninja. Wait is Kisame not allowed to fuse with samehada or create a water dome in this match up?

Sasuke didn't dodge those very easily because he had to build all chakra into his legs to barely escape it. Kisame is considerably faster, but haku can keep up with him in the speed department and keep attacking him with a barrage of senbon/ice shards.

It's a good thing that Kisame can do the same thing except much more easily since his levels of chakra are far greater than that of early part 1 Sasuke. Also Kisame could use samehada as a form of defence against those senbon. Also doesn't samehada have the ability to stretch itself?

He would be getting weaker, but Kisame would also be attacked by haku, who can cause fatal injuries with his senbon or could use the ice dome and blitz him completely/shower him with senbon.

Too bad Haku would also be slowing down just as he was in his battle against Naruto and Sasuke except it would be even worse for him this time around. What fatal injuries are you talking about? Kisame has tanked attacks such as Killer Bee's lariat and Gai's Hirudora.

 

[fastrthnwind]

True but he should have some knowledge on the way silent killing works since he is a member of the seven swordsmen and an elite Kirigakure ninja. Wait is Kisame not allowed to fuse with samehada or create a water dome in this match up?

there are no restrictions in this battle, so he can create the water dome and fuse with samehada if he wants to.

It's a good thing that Kisame can do the same thing except much more easily since his levels of chakra are far greater than that of early part 1 Sasuke. Also Kisame could use samehada as a form of defence against those senbon. Also doesn't samehada have the ability to stretch itself?

He could use samehada to defend himself, but he would be wide open to attacks from Zabuza.
Samehada can only stretch the hilt portion of itself.

Too bad Haku would also be slowing down just as he was in his battle against Naruto and Sasuke except it would be even worse for him this time around. What fatal injuries are you talking about? Kisame has tanked attacks such as Killer Bee's lariat and Gai's Hirudora.

Haku only slows down after he uses that technique for a while. Even then he can still travel just as fast between mirrors to attack him from a distance. Haku is so skilled with senbon that he even cause his opponents to fall into a deathlike state if he wants them alive. He could easily kill them if he wanted to. There are some spots in the body that can't be tanked because their is little to no muscles surrounding the areas, like the neck. Kisame didn't tank either attack and would have died from both, but samehada was there to heal the lariat while gai held back in order to gain intel from him.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Kisame mid diff