Its like being half way in to a movie and being like "How come this has not been explained yet?!?! Plot hole!!" - And then walking out and trash talking the movie to your friends
Wait until the end before you decide whether or not there were plot holes or not.
I get your point but people will always complain... Can't help it some people are just realy picky and don't know what it takes to make a good story... If they did they would be authors as well
Well he was talking about people who complain about plot holes. And he complaining about people who complain about plot holes so he's not a hypocrite. He's complaining on a whole new level than the complaining you implied
Its like being half way in to a movie and being like "How come this has not been explained yet?!?! Plot hole!!" - And then walking out and trash talking the movie to your friends
Wait until the end before you decide whether or not there were plot holes or not.
Personally i like those people cuz criticism its important ! And i think all people who watched Obito backstory and Tobi being Obito are pisst off right now ! Also the message from Kishi with " I don't care anymore about it " its like a answer to everything that its now cheesy , confusing , and could have been alot better !
PS. This whole war arc its full of storyes with no end because the Edo tensei was released , and other BS
Personally i like those people cuz criticism its important ! And i think all people who watched Obito backstory and Tobi being Obito are pisst off right now ! Also the message from Kishi with " I don't care anymore about it " its like a answer to everything that its now cheesy , confusing , and could have been alot better !
PS. This whole war arc its full of storyes with no end because the Edo tensei was released , and other BS
First off, like i said, the Manga is not over yet, so more can still be explained.
And second, that whole "I don't care anymore about it" page, was supposed to be extremely bold, to show how much Obito just does not care. And i doubt Kishi would just throw away 10+ years of work because he has lost interest in it.
This is kind of off your comment topic but i want to say it anyway.
A lot of things people complain about being plot wholes are usually due to lack of knowledge as well. For example, people were wondering why Madara had his younger form instead of his older form when he was edo'd. But Kabuto even said, he was specially made to be beyond his prime.
First off, like i said, the Manga is not over yet, so more can still be explained.
And second, that whole "I don't care anymore about it" page, was supposed to be extremely bold, to show how much Obito just does not care. And i doubt Kishi would just throw away 10+ years of work because he has lost interest in it.
This is kind of off your comment topic but i want to say it anyway.
A lot of things people complain about being plot wholes are usually due to lack of knowledge as well. For example, people were wondering why Madara had his younger form instead of his older form when he was edo'd. But Kabuto even said, he was specially made to be beyond his prime.
Maybe you like it that way but some people would like a good explination ! ( Not all answers in one chapter but they should show until the end of the manga all the answers )
Its like being half way in to a movie and being like "How come this has not been explained yet?!?! Plot hole!!" - And then walking out and trash talking the movie to your friends
Wait until the end before you decide whether or not there were plot holes or not.
1) Mysteries that haven't been explained yet in full, but which aren't too complicated. These aren't plot holes, but they could become them depending on how the manga goes. These are the things that we shouldn't complain about (we can ask about them, but shouldn't complain) because the manga isn't over yet.
Example: We don't yet know the details about how Madara survived the battle with Hashirama, but considering the tools at his disposal (izanagi, genjutsu, Hashirama DNA, clones, substitution jutsu, etc) this isn't a big problem. There are lots of possible, plausible answers, and we don't even really need to see a flashback to know that it happened.
Example: Madara clearly was resurrected differently from how he looked when he died (Chiyo, as a counter-point, was resurrected as an old lady, not resurrected in her prime). Kabuto mentioned that Madara's resurrection was special, so even though we don't know the details (and may never know them) it's not implausible to think that he did something special.
2) Mysteries that haven't been explained yet, but where the available evidence appears contradictory, or there are so many constraints on the answer because of the story that any answer would seem implausible. These are the kinds of things where Kishi can always pull something out of his backside, but those answers might not be too enjoyable.
Example: Madara claimed that meeting Obito, and Obito becoming his assistant (by witnessing the death of Rin) was all an accident. However, Madara hadn't contacted Nagato yet by himself, so there are some real questions about whether meeting Obito was really an accident and what Madara's plan for Nagato was if he hadn't met Obito. Because of what we know about Nagato's backstory from flashbacks told by Nagato and Konan, and things said by Obito and Madara, there are some real constraints on possible explanations and if Kishi forgets about these things they could become plot holes.
Example: Obito becoming the Mizukage and enacting "Bloody mist" programs to kill young ninja and to hunt down people with kekkei genkai. These things haven't been explained yet, and there are some oddities because the very first enemies we met (Zabuza and Haku) were products of this environment, so there are constraints that have been in place for the entire length of the manga (and if Kishi didn't have a plan for part two in mind starting from the beginning of part one, he could write himself into trouble).
Example: Madara clearly expected Nagato to use Rinne Tensei to revive him, almost 20 years after his death. However, Nagato himself suggested that Rinne Tensei had a time limit ("There is still time..."), and he didn't use this power to resurrect Yahiko, who had died LATER than Madara did. It is possible that any use of Rinne Tensei is fatal (although Konan suggested that the only reason why he died was because he was so low on chakra), and that Obito was going to use genjutsu to force Nagato to use it to resurrect Madara. I think it's very likely that this discrepancy will not be answered and when the manga ends we will recognize that this is a plot hole.
Example: Orochimaru helping Danzo with his medical experiments long after he defected from the village, but then Orochimaru turns around and invades the Leaf Village to kill the hokage and try to destroy the place. There are possible explanations here, but the available evidence is pretty large considering how big a role Orochimaru played in part 1.
Example: Itachi slaughtering all the Uchiha, including women, children and other non-combatants. Itachi was a pacifist who was against unnecessary bloodshed and wanted to protect people. However, he killed defenseless children from one of the most powerful clans in the village, who would have grown up to become powerful ninja in the village.
3) Places where the manga openly contradicts itself, or places where characters act in stupid ways that cannot be explained by what we know about those characters, often because of plot convenience. These are things that are, by definition, plot holes.
Example: Konan not knowing that Obito encouraged Yahiko to create Akatsuki, but us seeing flashbacks that clearly show Obito meeting with a Pre-Akatsuki group of Ame Orphans, and pledging to come talk to them every day at the same time.
Example: Obito leading the "bloody mist", killing Minato and Kushina, and helping to kill the Uchiha. In the beginning he was a good guy, and after the death of Rin he claimed that "I don't care any more." How does a person go from not caring about the world to turning into a psychopathic mass-murderer? Even if the "bloody mist" and Minato killings were revenge for Rin, killing Kushina and helping to massacre the Uchiha was not revenge and don't make any sense for his character.
Example: Danzo wanting the Uchiha to all be massacred, even though they were considered some of the most powerful fighters and therefore the most powerful defenders of the village (protection of the village was among Danzo's top priorities). A far better plan would have been for Danzo to kill the Uchiha adults and turn the Uchiha orphans into emotionless members of Root.
There are some parts of the manga where Kishi is going fast and is appearing to contradict things he's said in the past. Contradictions and other absurdities are plot holes.
