Ninjas and Speed

[fastrthnwind]

This thread is about ninjas who are so fast that they can "blitz" almost any oppenents with their speed and use it to primarily take down their opponents.

Prime examples of Ninja who have used speed in the past to overwhelm their opponents:

1)Minato
2)4th Raikage
3)3rd Raikage
4)Lee
5)Guy
6)Naruto
7)Itachi
8)Kakashi
9)Sasuke

Now to the point of this thread. There are shinobi who have been considered fast and can use their speed to gain an advantage in a fight, but what is the point in which a ninja's speed is considered to be fast enough in order to "blitz" an opponent?

Now in order to do that we must define the term blitzing

Blitzing, in general, is defined as sudden/intense/lightning fast attack; in this case, however, it is referred to as a series of attacks that are so fast that the opponent is unable to react to them.

Throughout the manga, we have seen plenty of times the people listed above have used speed to take out their opponents, but only a few of them have actually demonstrated speed that hardly anyone else is able to physically react to.

These people are as listed:
1)Minato
2)4th Raikage
3)3rd Raikage
4)Lee
5)Guy

Now you might be wondering, "why is Naruto not on this list? He has KM/BM and has proven to be even faster than the raikage himself."

Now to answer this, Naruto is relatively new to his newfound speed and, as such, has not used it unless he absolutely needed to.

Now you may be asking, "Why would he not use this speed on a regular basis?"

For one, Naruto is unused to moving at such speeds for long periods of time and has not shown anything else other than extremely fast one-shot attacks/movements. It is also not his style of fighting since he relies mostly on shadow clones to overwhelm his opponents. Compared to the above mentioned, who have trained the majority of their lives incorporating their overwhelming speed into their fighting style, Naruto is much more likely to hurt himself than they are do to him being unused to this kind of speed and had done so when he first tried to use his speed to attack Kisame.

So far, Naruto has kept himself from utilizing his full speed in order to keep from hurting himself. Anyone who says otherwise is not taking into consideration the amount of time and effort it takes to fully and effectively develop one's speed while incorporating it into their fighting style as the others have.

Since that is out of the way, we can now proceed to discuss about the people who have demonstrated the ability to overwhwlm their opponents with speed.

Now, the first time we saw someone truly blitzing an opponent was when Lee opened the gates to bypass Gaaras sand and proceeded to attack Gaara repeatedly and extremely quickly.

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The next time we saw someone blitzing an opponent was when Guy first opened the gates to attack the Kisame clone before he could react, completely overwhelming him with attacks. While it wasn't a true blitz like Lee has done, it is implied that, as Lee's sensei, that he could do the same thing himself.

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Next on the list is the raikages. The raikages have developed the lightning armor to increase their reflexes/reaction time and combined with the body flicker technique makes them one of the fastest in the world. The raikages , while able to overwhwlm their opponents with devastating speed and power have not yet shown the ability to repeatedly attack the same target in a blitz-like manner and instead have used it to make-extremly quick and powerful one-shot burst attacks that can obliterate almost anything in their path. This linear attack style keeps them from moving in a circular fashion which reduces their overall agility, but allows them to maneuver across a battlefield quickly and efficiently.

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Last but not least is Minato, who is considered the fastest in the NV due to his FTG technique and his superior reflexes. While his base speed is fairly impressive, it is his FTG that grants him such manueverability that he is capable of taking out an entire platoon of ninja in mere seconds with it. Though his technique it is not classified as speed, the speed at which he uses the technique it still allows him to effectively blitz any person in the vicinity of a marked kunai or a teleportation seal.

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Here are examples of blitzing an opponent using the NUNSG game. This is just to get an understanding of what blitzing looks like, even though some are a bit exaggerated and not exactly canon according what each has shown in the manga

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here are the blitzing points:
1:20
6:08-6:30
15:20
30:18

So, with all of this in mind, it is safe to say that the only people who are capable of truly blitzing an opponent would be Guy, Lee, and Minato with his FTG. As mentioned earlier, the raikages do not try to attack their opponents reapeatedly with super quick attacks, but rather go for a linear, one-shot attack to finish their opponents.

 

[spade3dg]

A thread about speed and your name is faster than wind. How ironic . I would add kiba and sasuke too. Simply for tge fact that Kiba's signature move has him blitzing the opponent while spinning rapidly.

And sasuke has been shown to be one of the fastest on the series so he should be able to do the same

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Speed is important. In the words of Goku "All the strength in the world won't matter if you can't hit the guy."

 

[Berserker]

Very nice thread. I do agree about the point made about Naruto. I'd have to disagree about the Raikages. More specifically the 4th. His fighting style is all on the basis of blitzing an opponent. I think it's unfair to judge him just because we've only seen him go against opponents who were able to dodge his attacks. In reality only so few can actually keep up with his speed.

 

[Reynaldo]

Minato's a beast no matter how you look at it lol

 

[Ōkami]

where you can kill your opponent before he realized you move

 

[Draegod]

Hanzou and Mifune is pretty fast! Shisu was known for the body flicker tech (like minato and hanzou).

And one thing ppl need to understand is that Foot speed doesnt result in "hand or striking speed". For example:

3rd and 4th raikage; They use there body ass a weapon in conjunction with the speed they use, thuus making super powerful hits that can 1 hit k.o.

Minato, sasuke itachi; they have fast foot speed in terms of blitzing, but there striking speed is base or "regular" like any other ninja. Minato can easily get close to any ninja, but when he goes in for a strike it is regular speed. Same with sasuke and itachi, they can get behind there opponents fast, but in terms of striking they then use regular arm motion to get the job done.

Foot speed does not equal Entire body speed. Just because you can run fast, doesnt mean you can kill with the same exact speed (excluding the raikages)

 

[fastrthnwind]

Hanzou and Mifune is pretty fast! Shisu was known for the body flicker tech (like minato and hanzou).

And one thing ppl need to understand is that Foot speed doesnt result in "hand or striking speed". For example:

3rd and 4th raikage; They use there body ass a weapon in conjunction with the speed they use, thuus making super powerful hits that can 1 hit k.o.

Minato, sasuke itachi; they have fast foot speed in terms of blitzing, but there striking speed is base or "regular" like any other ninja. Minato can easily get close to any ninja, but when he goes in for a strike it is regular speed. Same with sasuke and itachi, they can get behind there opponents fast, but in terms of striking they then use regular arm motion to get the job done.

Foot speed does not equal Entire body speed. Just because you can run fast, doesnt mean you can kill with the same exact speed (excluding the raikages)

While they are fast, they dont have the overwhelming speed that the raikages, guy/Lee, and minato have.

Anyways, I agree with what you are saying, though using their hand attacks with their body speed can prove to be deadly still.

The only people with notable hand and foot speed would be Guy, Lee, and Neji(despite his lack of footspeed feats, his databook stat is still 4.5, which is pretty fast)

 

[fastrthnwind]

A thread about speed and your name is faster than wind. How ironic . I would add kiba and sasuke too. Simply for tge fact that Kiba's signature move has him blitzing the opponent while spinning rapidly.

And sasuke has been shown to be one of the fastest on the series so he should be able to do the same

Ikr? xd

Anyways, Sasuke and Kiba are very fast shinobi themselves and have displayed their speed several times throughout the manga. However, this thread is pertaining more to shinobi who are so fast that they are in another class of their own when it comes to speed like the raikages.

Very nice thread. I do agree about the point made about Naruto. I'd have to disagree about the Raikages. More specifically the 4th. His fighting style is all on the basis of blitzing an opponent. I think it's unfair to judge him just because we've only seen him go against opponents who were able to dodge his attacks. In reality only so few can actually keep up with his speed.

Thank you. In many of the fights he has fought, he has always tried to kill his opponent by one-shotting them with his superior speed. When his opponent is capable of dodging, he hasn't shown himself to turn around and attack them again before they can react. The raikages lighting armor allows them to move extremely quick in linear direction and that limits their overall maneuverability, making it difficult for them to repeatedly blitz an opponent.

 

[Negative Knight]

Speed is not necessarily the most important factor in a fight. Its easily cancelled out by vertical range, perfect defenses (Kamui, Shinra Tensei and to an extent Neji's Rotation).

However, you raise an interesting point about Blitzing matches, what if the opponent is a human tank like the 3rd Raikage ?

 

[fastrthnwind]

Speed is not necessarily the most important factor in a fight. Its easily cancelled out by vertical range, perfect defenses (Kamui, Shinra Tensei and to an extent Neji's Rotation).

However, you raise an interesting point about Blitzing matches, what if the opponent is a human tank like the 3rd Raikage ?

Yes it isn't always the most important, but it is important as CursedSealofEarth mentioned:

Speed is important. In the words of Goku "All the strength in the world won't matter if you can't hit the guy."

I do understand its weaknesses also(and quite frankly, even Nejis rotation could withstand speed as I have mentioned in earlier threads.)

Now it is rare to have someone who is a human tank like the 3rd raikage, but it would likely be best to go for critical points on the person and constantly exploit those points. Eventually they will crumble, even if they do have a near impenetrable body.

 

[Negative Knight]

Yes it isn't always the most important, but it is important as CursedSealofEarth mentioned:



I do understand its weaknesses also(and quite frankly, even Nejis rotation could withstand speed as I have mentioned in earlier threads.)

Now it is rare to have someone who is a human tank like the 3rd raikage, but it would likely be best to go for critical points on the person and constantly exploit those points. Eventually they will crumble, even if they do have a near impenetrable body.

Fair point you raise there, but honestly i think vertical range/flight is a much better method for combat. Take Konan, Muu or Deidara for an example, they can simultaneously escape almost your entire arsenal for a relatively low chakra taxing move, and on top of that each of them has shown the ability to attack from the skies.

However Minato is obviously a special case, he manages to don both Flight and Speed xd