Kisame vs Orochimaru

[Hokage Fourth]

Anyways back to the thread,Kisame takes this if he has his water dome that he used against 8 Tails if not Orochimaru wins

 

[Hokage Fourth]

Btw Orochimaru does have Sage Mode..but its imperfected and hes yet to be able to use it in battle..The reason why hes hunting Sasuke's body is because he needs a new body to apply sage mode (perfected) to and because Sasuke has the sharingan etc

 

[Kira Vs L]

What manga ado you read nigga ? lol try getting some facts right before you enter this thread

Lol someone taking this really seriously lol
Any way I never said him having sage mode made him invincible nor did you I was just simply asking y you thought that.
Now you say he was trained but cus of his body he wasn't able to use it so he can't use it or am incorrect on that too?
But you are right I miss read what it said on this page and that it said he finally found it when oro didn't that's y in the next page he saids he surpassed oro but I did miss read it I have no issue admitting that.

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Now I know his abilities and I understand how strong oro is but how is that going to help him fight kisame?
Kisame steals your chakra and heals himself from any damage, maybe he oro could dodge kisame's sword but that won't stop his chakra from being stolen. Like I stated before kisame could use the same ability that he used on bee and change the field to be completely water what defense does oro have against that? Bee got lucky that the sword started liking him. I'm not saying that it won't be a hard fight for kisame I just don't see how oro abilities help him in a fight against kisame that's all I'm saying.

 

[slaton02]

Oro stood up to naruto in his 4- tail form that is stronger than kisame

xd lol I wonder if he actually thought before he made this comment.

 

[thegame]

A few words about this fight. About the location it is a general misconception that Kisame has an advantage if he is in the ocean. It is true that he can dive beneath it, but he cannot summon his huge water bowl, since it will float into the water. This is most likely the reason why he lost to Gai. When he fights on land he is truly frightening since he can suffocate almost any opponent that hasn't got more speed than him under water. And since he basically can transform into a shark if he merges with shamehada he is truly one of the strongest characters when you fight him on land. I've chosen to do this so Kisame will have Shamehada since that makes it more interesting IMO. I also made Orochimarous hands sealed, since we have too little knowledge of his jutsu using hand seals, but he wont be affected by the pain or anything. Here I go:

Facts

Kisame: vs Orochimarou

Chakra:

Primary: Water release
Secondary Earth release


Primary: Wind release

Strongest techniques:

Offensive

Water Element Giant Shark Missile

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It is a jutsu that absorbs chakra the opponents attacks thus becoming extremely effective. Imagine Kisame using this jutsu against a tailed beast. It is no wonder he can take down a tailed beast. This also turns this jutsu into an extremely good defense. Kisame is smart, so he will only use it when the opponent uses a grand jutsu.

Water release: A thousand feeding sharks

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Basically Kisame summons a thousand sharks and makes a huge wave that they can ride on in order to attack his opponent.




Formation of ten thousand snakes.

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Truly a large amount of snakes is shown in the manga. Also it is seen on the same page that swords are coming from their mouth as well as they can spit poison.




Defensive

Again we have the Water Element Giant Shark Missile, explanation above

Triple Rashōmon

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Very impressive defense. The ability of this jutsu is specified in 3rd databook. Basically all the gates have their own way of reducing the strength of the incoming attack, and they can be summoned, which means no seals are needed, so it is more like an instant than an actual jutsu. We see in chapter 295 that oro summons his gates AFTER naruto spits a gathering of chakra with huge power and speed.

Oro cannot be bisected, decapitated, etc. He can form snakes out of his body, he can climb out of his own mouth, etc.

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Weapons:

Shamehada:
Abilities: can absorb chakra, can heal Kisame, can restore his chakra

Sword of Kusanagi
Abilities: comes out of Orochimarous mouth, can expand up to 200 meters (estimate made by me), a lot sharper than the average sword.

Conclusion:

Oro is clearly best in defensive abilities, thus making him a lot more passive than Kisame, but this suits Kisame fine from what we know. He is a shark, so he is used to be the hunter, not the prey.

Kisames first move will most likely be to spit out a huge bowl of water. However, Oro can push Kisame out of his water bowl with kusanagi, despite his forward speed in water, he can't hold back the pressure from Kusanagi, thus rendering the bowl useless. So this strategy wont work for Kisame.

In terms of jutsu Kisame clearly rules. He has his shark missile and wave of thousand sharks. Both uses water release, but Oro has his gates for defense, so it will be a tie. On the other hand Kisames jutsus will easily destroy Oros ten thousand snakes before they get inside of his reach.

Kisame can't merge with shamehada, since Oro will keep the battle outside of the water bowl. But Kisame has earth release as well. He will try to make a small sea where they can fight, so that if Oro is pushed towards it, he will most like be taken out.

Kisame has but one possibility to "kill" Oro. His sharks must eat him. The moment he is eaten he cannot return to himself. I just can't see it happen since he has his sword to destroy any shark that tries to do this.

When it comes to a sword fight, I can't see Kisame winning, since Oro can let him get bisected, and then counter attack with kusanagi, since he will just form a new body. On the other hand Kisame will be healed by Shamehada.

In the end this will be an extremely tight battle. I didn't imagine it would be this hard and take this long. I can't see Oro outlasting Kisame in chakra, though. I also couldn't find much information on the triple Rashōmon about how often they may be summoned. Since they are gates, I assume they somewhat takes of the strength from the attack by making the attack force the gates to open, thus weakening the attack hardly. Using this assumption he would need some time between every summoning. The question of course is how many of the 3 he needs to defend against Kisames grand water jutsus. In the end I believe Kisame has enough chakra to use his grand water jutsus so many times that Oro can't summon the gates again, thus making Kisame the most likely winner.

Have a good day :ice:

 

[BladerItachi]

A few words about this fight. About the location it is a general misconception that Kisame has an advantage if he is in the ocean. It is true that he can dive beneath it, but he cannot summon his huge water bowl, since it will float into the water. This is most likely the reason why he lost to Gai. When he fights on land he is truly frightening since he can suffocate almost any opponent that hasn't got more speed than him under water. And since he basically can transform into a shark if he merges with shamehada he is truly one of the strongest characters when you fight him on land. I've chosen to do this so Kisame will have Shamehada since that makes it more interesting IMO. I also made Orochimarous hands sealed, since we have too little knowledge of
his jutsu using hand seals, but he wont be affected by the pain or anything. Here I go:


Facts

Kisame: vs Orochimarou

Chakra:

Primary: Water release
Secondary Earth release


Primary: Wind release

Strongest techniques:

Offensive

Water Element Giant Shark Missile

Spoiler

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It is a jutsu that absorbs chakra the opponents attacks thus becoming extremely effective. Imagine Kisame using this jutsu against a tailed beast. It is no wonder he can take down a tailed beast. This also turns this jutsu into an extremely good defense. Kisame is smart, so he will only use it when the opponent uses a grand jutsu.

Water release: A thousand feeding sharks

Spoiler

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Basically Kisame summons a thousand sharks and makes a huge wave that they can ride on in order to attack his opponent.




Formation of ten thousand snakes.

Spoiler

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Truly a large amount of snakes is shown in the manga. Also it is seen on the same page that swords are coming from their mouth as well as they can spit poison.




Defensive

Again we have the Water Element Giant Shark Missile, explanation above

Triple Rashōmon

Spoiler

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Very impressive defense. The ability of this jutsu is specified in 3rd databook. Basically all the gates have their own way of reducing the strength of the incoming attack, and they can be summoned, which means no seals are needed, so it is more like an instant than an actual jutsu. We see in chapter 295 that oro summons his gates AFTER naruto spits a gathering of chakra with huge power and speed.

Oro cannot be bisected, decapitated, etc. He can form snakes out of his body, he can climb out of his own mouth, etc.

Spoiler

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Weapons:

Shamehada:
Abilities: can absorb chakra, can heal Kisame, can restore his chakra

Sword of Kusanagi
Abilities: comes out of Orochimarous mouth, can expand up to 200 meters (estimate made by me), a lot sharper than the average sword.

Conclusion:

Oro is clearly best in defensive abilities, thus making him a lot more passive than Kisame, but this suits Kisame fine from what we know. He is a shark, so he is used to be the hunter, not the prey.

Kisames first move will most likely be to spit out a huge bowl of water. However, Oro can push Kisame out of his water bowl with kusanagi, despite his forward speed in water, he can't hold back the pressure from Kusanagi, thus rendering the bowl useless. So this strategy wont work for Kisame.

In terms of jutsu Kisame clearly rules. He has his shark missile and wave of thousand sharks. Both uses water release, but Oro has his gates for defense, so it will be a tie. On the other hand Kisames jutsus will easily destroy Oros ten thousand snakes before they get inside of his reach.

Kisame can't merge with shamehada, since Oro will keep the battle outside of the water bowl. But Kisame has earth release as well. He will try to make a small sea where they can fight, so that if Oro is pushed towards it, he will most like be taken out.

Kisame has but one possibility to "kill" Oro. His sharks must eat him. The moment he is eaten he cannot return to himself. I just can't see it happen since he has his sword to destroy any shark that tries to do this.

When it comes to a sword fight, I can't see Kisame winning, since Oro can let him get bisected, and then counter attack with kusanagi, since he will just form a new body. On the other hand Kisame will be healed by Shamehada.

In the end this will be an extremely tight battle. I didn't imagine it would be this hard and take this long. I can't see Oro outlasting Kisame in chakra, though. I also couldn't find much information on the triple Rashōmon about how often they may be summoned. Since they are gates, I assume they somewhat takes of the strength from the attack by making the attack force the gates to open, thus weakening the attack hardly. Using this assumption he would need some time between every summoning. The question of course is how many of the 3 he needs to defend against Kisames grand water jutsus. In the end I believe Kisame has enough chakra to use his grand water jutsus so many times that Oro can't summon the gates again, thus making Kisame the most likely winner.

Have a good day :ice:

Thanks for the ice-cream *licks hungrily*

 

[thegame]

Thanks for the ice-cream *licks hungrily*

Ended up spending much more time on this than planned xD guess it's quite fun to analyze versus threads, so I will post this in the versus thread section

 

[BladerItachi]

Ended up spending much more time on this than planned xD guess it's quite fun to analyze versus threads, so I will post this in the versus thread section

to u too and no :flaw: with the result I guess, cos I support Kisame too

 

[VangBro95]

Oro stood up to naruto in his 4- tail form that is stronger than kisame

Dude are you serious? Kisame took down the four tailed jinjuriki by himself while Itachi was sitting back chilling and he took on Killer Bee by himself and lost on purpose so he could infiltrate the allied forces.

 

[blazekev90]

Orochimaru wins, ppl forget that he uses snakes, Anacondas that snake within water, we saw Manda 2 take care the turtle under the water. This meaning Kisame's Dome wouldn't be much of factor, since Oro's summonings are greater, 10,000 vs 10000 sharks, Manda being the boss.

Also, Kisame stealing charka only effects Orochimaru's ability to shed skin, which he was uses once immobile, Kisame hasn't shown any feat to kill Oro.

Shark bullet would be Kisame's go to, but those aren't getting past Oro's Gates

 

[VangBro95]

Dragon>>>Sharks>>Snakes. But Oro isn't a dragon...yet.
Samaheda>Sword of Kusunagi?

 

[Prime Rib]

oro mid diff

 

[Avani 👑]

Versus threads have their own sub forum. Please post such thread in there only.

 

[BladerItachi]

Versus threads have their own sub forum. Please post such thread in there only.

Alright, you got it next time

 

[Simple Math]

i would say kisame

 

[thegame]

Orochimaru wins, ppl forget that he uses snakes, Anacondas that snake within water, we saw Manda 2 take care the turtle under the water. This meaning Kisame's Dome wouldn't be much of factor, since Oro's summonings are greater, 10,000 vs 10000 sharks, Manda being the boss.

Also, Kisame stealing charka only effects Orochimaru's ability to shed skin, which he was uses once immobile, Kisame hasn't shown any feat to kill Oro.

Shark bullet would be Kisame's go to, but those aren't getting past Oro's Gates

If you read my explanation you will know, but his 10,000 snakes wont beat 1000 sharks, cause the sharks are riding on a huge wave created with water element, thus improving their speed and power.

Besides Kisame can make another wave right after, he has got the chakra to it.. But 1 will probably do the trick.

Manda 2 was strong, yes, but he is a clone that Kabuto made with Mandas cells. The Manda that Oro can summon is dead U_U