Sasuke's Blaze/Enton release is a kekke genkei.

[Sasuke..]

To answer that have you not notice by now that not all sharigan techs are the same and kakashi has only one eye plus he is a non uchiah so he cant be compared to the rest

Dude i'm just here to say that the blaze release is a kekke genkei like the lava release, i showed proof and manga scans just accept it.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

It IS a kekke genkei, it's called inferno release smarty. and if you're still in denial please tell me why Sasuke wasn't bleeding from his eye when he used his enton Susano'o blade if it's a variation of Amaterasu?? or when he throwed those Enton shuriken to the zetsu's?

He has the EMS he no longer suffers effects of the ms that is why does not bleed anymore.I see your reasoning for saying its a kekegenkai which Literally means "a technique limited to inheritance by blood" or "Bloodline Limit" Which are abilities passed down genetically within specific clans. It's possible for a ninja to have more than one of these abilities. Kekkei genkai abilities that work via the user's eye are called dōjutsu.The reason it can be considered a kekegenkai and not a keke totai is because the sharingan which is a kekegenai itself is the basis of the enton.A keke totai encompasses more then 2 elements which sasuke is not doing he is asserting his control over the amaterasu a skill derived from his keke genkai and controlling it to a greater extent which nobody else can do.
Making it a unique skill of his own. + rep I have argued with you a few times in the past but i cannot overlook when someone is right and even has facts to back it up

 

[naruto9tailsage]

Dude i'm just here to say that the blaze release is a kekke genkei like the lava release, i showed proof and manga scans just accept it.

I respect your opinion man im just saying if he didnt have the sharigan he would not have blaze release so his real kekke genkei is the sharigan blaze relase is a power granted to him when he unlocked the mg lave reales its a kekke genkei because she uses both of her nature chakara to form a new one just as hashi did to for mukoton

 

[Sasuke..]

He has the EMS he no longer suffers effects of the ms that is why does not bleed anymore.I see your reasoning for saying its a kekegenkai which Literally means "a technique limited to inheritance by blood" or "Bloodline Limit" Which are abilities passed down genetically within specific clans. It's possible for a ninja to have more than one of these abilities. Kekkei genkai abilities that work via the user's eye are called dōjutsu.The reason it can be considered a kekegenkai and not a keke totai is because the sharingan which is a kekegenai itself is the basis of the enton.A keke totai encompasses more then 2 elements which sasuke is not doing he is asserting his control over the amaterasu a skill derived from his keke genkai and controlling it to a greater extent which nobody else can do.
Making it a unique skill of his own. + rep

I agree with some things you say but look:

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He's bleeding, it has nothing to do with EMS he just unlocked a new element after being so used to Amaterasu i guess.

 

[naruto9tailsage]

He has the EMS he no longer suffers effects of the ms that is why does not bleed anymore.I see your reasoning for saying its a kekegenkai which Literally means "a technique limited to inheritance by blood" or "Bloodline Limit" Which are abilities passed down genetically within specific clans. It's possible for a ninja to have more than one of these abilities. Kekkei genkai abilities that work via the user's eye are called dōjutsu.The reason it can be considered a kekegenkai and not a keke totai is because the sharingan which is a kekegenai itself is the basis of the enton.A keke totai encompasses more then 2 elements which sasuke is not doing he is asserting his control over the amaterasu a skill derived from his keke genkai and controlling it to a greater extent which nobody else can do.
Making it a unique skill of his own. + rep I have argued with you a few times in the past but i cannot overlook when someone is right and even has facts to back it up

Agreed 100%

 

[Sasuke..]

I respect your opinion man im just saying if he didnt have the sharigan he would not have blaze release so his real kekke genkei is the sharigan blaze relase is a power granted to him when he unlocked the mg lave reales its a kekke genkei because she uses both of her nature chakara to form a new one just as hashi did to for mukoton

I know dude, but he probably unlocked it by being so used and skilled at Amaterasu that he unlocked blaze release, i showed panels of him bleeding with EMS so it's NOT Amaterasu, thanks for the better reply though.

 

[ReXii]

This is stupid lol, He is manipulating the flames of amaterasu, even the damn samurai said it when he first used blaze release, blaze release is simple manipulation of his MS abilities, every MS has varied abilities, Obito has space time migration while the eye kakashi got has Kamui, neither eye is capable of using amaterasu or tsukuyomi, Madara has only shown his Susanoo thus far and that is his main power.
Sasuke and Itachi share direct blood as brothers and now eyes, Yet Itachi's amaterasu and susanoo and tsukuyomi are polar opposites of sasukes, sasuke uses amaterasu more effectively then his brother who relied heavily on tsukuyomi and mastered it to a level far above sasukes own genjutsu abilities, manipulation of the black flames is not a second KG it is merely a variation on the KG granted by his only one, the sharingan.

Also your idea of proof that his eye didnt bleed, thats also invalid you can clearly see the eye strain itself similar to amaterasu but to a lesser extent because he is only manipulating them instead of creating them from his eye.

So stop saying everyone else is in denial, you brought no solid evidence at all.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Blaze Release (炎遁, Enton; Viz "Inferno Style") is an advanced chakra nature. Just like how Haku's is an advanced chakra nature from the water element, this is made out of the fire element. come with facts dude cause i'm bringing them.

It is used through his doujutsu, making it a doujutsu ninjutsu.

 

[naruto9tailsage]

I know dude, but he probably unlocked it by being so used and skilled at Amaterasu that he unlocked blaze release, i showed panels of him bleeding with EMS so it's NOT Amaterasu, thanks for the better reply though.

Your right about sasuke being the best with amaterasu so he learn how to control the flames my point is if he lost or didnt have the sharigan he would not have blaze release because it depends on the sharigan right unlike lave release and wood release does are made by mixing both ur chakara nature's to make a new one

 

[TheHokage]

Who cares it just shows that Sasuke is given power again without earning it.

 

[fastrthnwind]

This is stupid lol, He is manipulating the flames of amaterasu, even the damn samurai said it when he first used blaze release, blaze release is simple manipulation of his MS abilities, every MS has varied abilities, Obito has space time migration while the eye kakashi got has Kamui, neither eye is capable of using amaterasu or tsukuyomi, Madara has only shown his Susanoo thus far and that is his main power.
Sasuke and Itachi share direct blood as brothers and now eyes, Yet Itachi's amaterasu and susanoo and tsukuyomi are polar opposites of sasukes, sasuke uses amaterasu more effectively then his brother who relied heavily on tsukuyomi and mastered it to a level far above sasukes own genjutsu abilities, manipulation of the black flames is not a second KG it is merely a variation on the KG granted by his only one, the sharingan.

Also your idea of proof that his eye didnt bleed, thats also invalid you can clearly see the eye strain itself similar to amaterasu but to a lesser extent because he is only manipulating them instead of creating them from his eye.

So stop saying everyone else is in denial, you brought no solid evidence at all.

This is what I'm saying, though not in such a rude manner.

 

[Sasuke..]

This is stupid lol, He is manipulating the flames of amaterasu, even the damn samurai said it when he first used blaze release, blaze release is simple manipulation of his MS abilities, every MS has varied abilities, Obito has space time migration while the eye kakashi got has Kamui, neither eye is capable of using amaterasu or tsukuyomi, Madara has only shown his Susanoo thus far and that is his main power.
Sasuke and Itachi share direct blood as brothers and now eyes, Yet Itachi's amaterasu and susanoo and tsukuyomi are polar opposites of sasukes, sasuke uses amaterasu more effectively then his brother who relied heavily on tsukuyomi and mastered it to a level far above sasukes own genjutsu abilities, manipulation of the black flames is not a second KG it is merely a variation on the KG granted by his only one, the sharingan.

Also your idea of proof that his eye didnt bleed, thats also invalid you can clearly see the eye strain itself similar to amaterasu but to a lesser extent because he is only manipulating them instead of creating them from his eye.

So stop saying everyone else is in denial, you brought no solid evidence at all.

Yeah sure that fodder samurai #231 knows best about the sharingan's abilities, and as i said mate, it's a element that's not part of the 5 basic elements which means it's a kekke genkei sure it's been made from his Amaterasu ability but seeing how he can spam enton and not bleed from it then what's the damn difference if you think it's the same?? he might aswell abandon Amaterasu by your terms.

 

[Words of wisdom]

well of course it a kg becuase it comes from ms wich is a kg

 

[VongolaX]

3 ****ing kekkie genki, so if his sharingan technique fails he has blaze release....that's some cheap shit

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

This is what's so annoying about Enton...how can you call it a unique kekkei genkai when you have to use a kekkei genkai in order to use it XD I just wish he could just throw it out there so I could be satisfied with it being a true kekkei genkai! It just doesn't fit with all the other Kekkei Genkai the Narutoverse meaning they aren't dependant on another technique to be used :'(!!!! I have come to just accept Enton as Enton, but all I csn think of it as Sasuke's unique Amaterasu lol!

 

[fastrthnwind]

Yeah sure that fodder samurai #231 knows best about the sharingan's abilities, and as i said mate, it's a element that's not part of the 5 basic elements which means it's a kekke genkei sure it's been made from his Amaterasu ability but seeing how he can spam enton and not bleed from it then what's the damn difference if you think it's the same?? he might aswell abandon Amaterasu by your terms.

It's simple:

Amaterasu - creation of black flames

Enton release - manipulation of flames

It takes more to make the flames than to control them so his eye doesn't bleed. Not only that, but him having EMS makes it even less stressful on his eyes.

 

[Sasuke..]

It's simple:

Amaterasu - creation of black flames

Enton release - manipulation of flames

It takes more to make the flames than to control them so his eye doesn't bleed. Not only that, but him having EMS makes it even less stressful on his eyes.

I agree with you, i know EMS lowers strain but it doesn't prevent the bleeding of Amaterasu.

 

[ReXii]

Yeah sure that fodder samurai #231 knows best about the sharingan's abilities, and as i said mate, it's a element that's not part of the 5 basic elements which means it's a kekke genkei sure it's been made from his Amaterasu ability but seeing how he can spam enton and not bleed from it then what's the damn difference if you think it's the same?? he might aswell abandon Amaterasu by your terms.

No by my terms he creates the flames and has mastered them to a higher degree, by your terms you think amaterasu is a seperate KG, which it is not, blaze release is simply a manipulation of the black flames, Kekkei genkai means bloodline limit a technique passed by blood alone, combinations of two elements are not always a sign of a bloodline limit, allow me to direct your attention to Darui's storm release and black lightning, neither have been shown to be particular bloodline limits they are just variations and combinations, i then direct you towards sound release, used by various people in certain respects it commonly believed as a combination of lightning and wind to create sound, also not a bloodline limit as several unrelated people have used it including one using it via vents.

Then we have dust release a kekkei tota, or combination of three elements fire wind and earth, which is 100% not a bloodline limit as both Mu and onoki have used it, or explosion release which seems likely a combination of fire and earth....Used by two people one is deidara using clay as a medium for his techniques the other is that baku guy i believe in the recent manga who used it via taijutsu, neither are related.

 

[Boskarta]

Yeah it's just a more skillful use of Amaterasu.

Itachi would have been able to do the same eventually, but he had to discover Amaterasu by himself.
Like how it took Minato 3 years or whatever to create the Rasengan, but because it had already been done Naruto only took a few days and then after he further upgraded it. Rasen-shuriken isn't a kekkei genkai, wouldn't you agree?

The same logic applies except that Amaterasu was just given to Sasuke.
And Itachi couldn't get to Enton because he couldn't spam Amaterasu without going blind or dying from his random disease.
It's just plot power Sasuke has, as usual.

 

[Styles]

Who cares it just shows that Sasuke is given power again without earning it.

:sy: apparently you do