Current Obito VS Hashirama

[Joki]

how do you know? what cooldown? konan never mentioned any cooldown

"i fought him to the death"
"hes the only one who could ever stop me"neither sentence mentioned him admitting defeat. because in the long term madara defeated him

ok....scans?

the stablised version yes. or madara wouldnt have been using rinnegan when activating it. the less complete version no doubt was used when he was alive.

no he didnt. not once did anyone ever say this. obito said he was the strongest of HIS TIME. and only because he could manipulate the bijuu. dan said only hashi can beat madara but dan lived before minato and nagato showed up didnt he? madara said "people called him the strongest" NOT "i think hes the strongest". get it right. and kabuto said no one ANYMORE is on his level. but did kabuto see him fight? no. did he see obito and naruto fight? no.

and then went right back and said HE does match that power by saying hes currently closer than anyone has ever come to matching rikudo sennin

so kabuto intimately knows about each and every obito technique and how he fights and knows that 6 bijuu combined bijuudama < hashirama?

ok....care to show me some legitimate proof? jsut saying he did doesnt mean we know what happened or what he did to deactivate it. maybe it was still incomplete back then and madara lost control over it after controlling kyuubi for so long

until hashi DOES SOMETHING and gains FEATS then yes. might i remind you we still have no idea what happened at VOTE or what madara was capable of? for all we know much of his edo power came from rinnegan and senju cells.

so your saying hashi alone > madara + hashi fused just because you want him to be?

he would have died alot of times without being an edo. do you think he could spam all that shit in his youth? even sasuke who has been noted to have chakra similar to that of ems madara, got exhausted after a few minutes of susano. kages STILL cornered madara twice and forced him to use clones to escape

you saying he is doesnt make him so. hashiramas feats are pathetic and heavily pale in comparison to kabuto obito nagato and narutos feats. moreover mu and onoki would annhilate him. and so would oro. unless you feel like arguing hashirama > immortal infinite chakra hashirama + orochimaru. if so, do it.

no you arent. your speculating, like usual. this is what we have to do with someone with garbage feats yet good hype. we have to speculate and give him power he never showed to make it make sense

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Do you have any support that old man crippled Madara who was on his deathbed used Perfect Susano'o? Because if not, you're full of shit. The closest I've come to negging someone for legitimately being retarded right there.

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

how do you know? what cooldown? konan never mentioned any cooldown

"i fought him to the death"
"hes the only one who could ever stop me"neither sentence mentioned him admitting defeat. because in the long term madara defeated him

ok....scans?

the stablised version yes. or madara wouldnt have been using rinnegan when activating it. the less complete version no doubt was used when he was alive.

no he didnt. not once did anyone ever say this. obito said he was the strongest of HIS TIME. and only because he could manipulate the bijuu. dan said only hashi can beat madara but dan lived before minato and nagato showed up didnt he? madara said "people called him the strongest" NOT "i think hes the strongest". get it right. and kabuto said no one ANYMORE is on his level. but did kabuto see him fight? no. did he see obito and naruto fight? no.

and then went right back and said HE does match that power by saying hes currently closer than anyone has ever come to matching rikudo sennin

so kabuto intimately knows about each and every obito technique and how he fights and knows that 6 bijuu combined bijuudama < hashirama?

ok....care to show me some legitimate proof? jsut saying he did doesnt mean we know what happened or what he did to deactivate it. maybe it was still incomplete back then and madara lost control over it after controlling kyuubi for so long

until hashi DOES SOMETHING and gains FEATS then yes. might i remind you we still have no idea what happened at VOTE or what madara was capable of? for all we know much of his edo power came from rinnegan and senju cells.

so your saying hashi alone > madara + hashi fused just because you want him to be?

he would have died alot of times without being an edo. do you think he could spam all that shit in his youth? even sasuke who has been noted to have chakra similar to that of ems madara, got exhausted after a few minutes of susano. kages STILL cornered madara twice and forced him to use clones to escape

you saying he is doesnt make him so. hashiramas feats are pathetic and heavily pale in comparison to kabuto obito nagato and narutos feats. moreover mu and onoki would annhilate him. and so would oro. unless you feel like arguing hashirama > immortal infinite chakra hashirama + orochimaru. if so, do it.

no you arent. your speculating, like usual. this is what we have to do with someone with garbage feats yet good hype. we have to speculate and give him power he never showed to make it make sense

So what you are saying that Nagato and Minato could own Hashirama?

Because as much as you dislike Hashi, Madara has acknowledeged him as the stronger between the two, and if you forget Kabuto and Orochimaru were doing research and were able to know the identify of Tobi, plus knew of Madara's "golden age", and most ninja want Hashi's DNA, so that they can have a portion of his power and so they can possess the wood style or they want control of a tailed beast as Hashi was able to control and suppress Bijuu and His power has been compared to the Sage of Six Paths. He can heal without hand seals so whatever hits Obito get on him he he will just heal without him even knowing plus Obito hasn't got any counter for Wood style: Advent of a flowering world.
Plus Perfect Susanoo is a EMS technique, not a Rinnegan technique because have u ever heard of anyone with Rinnengan having the ability to summon Susanoo? Madara only stabilises it with his Rinnegan

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Obv Obito wins. Hashirama is only a little better than ems madara, but Obito will rape ems madara. Obito>Hashirama

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Madara has acknowledeged him as the stronger between the two

he said only hashirama could ever stop him. not "hashiramas wayy stronger than me and can seal edos whenever he wants"

His power has been compared to the Sage of Six Paths

no it wasnt. and if it was, nagato IS a sage of six paths. not just a pale imitation of the sage's son

He can heal without hand seals

so can kabuto. and oro. and tsunade. and suigetsu to an extent

whatever hits Obito get on him he he will just heal

byakugo has a huge chakra cost and only useful for attacks that dont penetrate vital organs/brain. and it cant heal dismembered limbs

plus Obito hasn't got any counter for Wood style: Advent of a flowering world

HAHAHAHAAHA. what do you call intangibility then? he doesnt need to breath if hes in another dimension! and he usually fukin is regardless of himself in combat or not. and tell me if hashirama can use that in time before obito warps him. obito, the man who reacted to 4th raikage at point blank range

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your telling me hashirama can form a whole forest before obito simply teleports to him and warps him? when it didnt even look that fast vs hiruzen?

Plus Perfect Susanoo is a EMS technique, not a Rinnegan technique because have u ever heard of anyone with Rinnengan having the ability to summon Susanoo? Madara only stabilises it with his Rinnegan

when did i say it was a rinnegan technique? i said hes using it with his rinnegan activated. meaning THAT VERSION of it is only accessible with the final eye evolution. if its EMS only how come hes not using EMS when activating it? answer me that

 

[TheTailedSage]

he said only hashirama could ever stop him. not "hashiramas wayy stronger than me and can seal edos whenever he wants"

no it wasnt. and if it was, nagato IS a sage of six paths. not just a pale imitation of the sage's son

so can kabuto. and oro. and tsunade. and suigetsu to an extent

byakugo has a huge chakra cost and only useful for attacks that dont penetrate vital organs/brain. and it cant heal dismembered limbs

HAHAHAHAAHA. what do you call intangibility then? he doesnt need to breath if hes in another dimension! and he usually fukin is regardless of himself in combat or not. and tell me if hashirama can use that in time before obito warps him. obito, the man who reacted to 4th raikage at point blank range

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your telling me hashirama can form a whole forest before obito simply teleports to him and warps him? when it didnt even look that fast vs hiruzen?

when did i say it was a rinnegan technique? i said hes using it with his rinnegan activated. meaning THAT VERSION of it is only accessible with the final eye evolution. if its EMS only how come hes not using EMS when activating it? answer me that

Nagato is NOT a sage of six path he is simply a preserver meaning he was only there so he can preserve the eye untill madara comes back, if you remember correctly madara wasn't meant to be brought back with edo tensei.

He can only use kamui for 5 MINUTES I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!! His cooldown time is short but come on in this time im sure hashirama would of figured out the eyes weakness :/

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He clearly uses it if you read the manga...

 

[Joki]

when did i say it was a rinnegan technique? i said hes using it with his rinnegan activated. meaning THAT VERSION of it is only accessible with the final eye evolution. if its EMS only how come hes not using EMS when activating it? answer me that

No proof for my posts? Yeah, I didn't really expect any.

What "other version" are you talking about, exactly? I'd like to see it, considering Madara knew exactly what this "rinnegan version" was despite never having any chance to use this "version" before he was revived as ET.

 

[Maito Gai]

Hashi

 

[TheTailedSage]

how do you know? what cooldown? konan never mentioned any cooldown

"i fought him to the death"
"hes the only one who could ever stop me"neither sentence mentioned him admitting defeat. because in the long term madara defeated him

Well its pretty dam obvious theres a cooldown :/ or he wouldnt of used izanagi to get out of her jutsu, saying you can use something for a limited time means there is going to be some form of cooldown

What do you think "hes the only one that can beat me" means?? long term he leeched off of the hashi clone

 

[enditallsin]

hashirama with mid difficulty, some of these lame ****tards just need to shut up and except shit for how it is..

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

He can only use kamui for 5 MINUTES I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!

yet it only got one mention in the manga then everyone including kishi forgot about it. we dont know how long the "cooldown" is

What do you think "hes the only one that can beat me" means?? long term he leeched off of the hashi clone

long term he got rinnegan and stayed alive via juubis shell which still has power in it. then he made sure he could be revived and rule the world once more

He clearly uses it if you read the manga...

for perfect susano?

hashirama with mid difficulty

how does he land a hit on obito?

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Wood Release Secret Technique: Nativity of a World of Trees. And even Yamato was able to restrain Obito.

 

[Joki]

yet it only got one mention in the manga then everyone including kishi forgot about it. we dont know how long the "cooldown" is

long term he got rinnegan and stayed alive via juubis shell which still has power in it. then he made sure he could be revived and rule the world once more

for perfect susano?

how does he land a hit on obito?

Still waiting

 

[TheTailedSage]

Still waiting

Listen joki hes a hashi hater look on other threads and it shows him say "hashirama is a dumbass" what a juvinile comment...

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Wood Release Secret Technique: Nativity of a World of Trees. And even Yamato was able to restrain Obito.

obito phases through wood and touches hashirama to warp him casually. yamato WAS ALLOWED to "restrain" him. remmber he couldnt in their very first meeting.