Two types of mangekyo sharingan

[KuroKaze]

i dunno whether this has been pointed out by anyone or no... but here it is:
MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN TYPE-1:-

it the mangekyou sharingan...that enables the person the 3 dojutsu namely tsukiyomi , amaterasu , susanoo ((mainly these 3...with a little variation as seen in case of itachi who had ""all the 3"", sasuke who has ""amateasu,amaterasu manipulation,susanoo""and madara who has "susanoo,tsukuyomi,perfect susanoo")).....

MY THEORY:: when an uchiha kills another clansmen...or in other words kills another uchiha AND/OR feels responsible for his death......this type-1 ms activates....
and EMS type-1=(MS-type-1 + MS-type-1 of another person most preferably brother)....e.g:-madara,sasuke

MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN TYPE-2:-

it is some special ms..that enables the user some special dojutsu ...like in case of kakakshi and obito its kamui...and in case of sishui its KA....
MY THEORY:: when an uchiha repents/feels responsible for some one close(BUT A NON-UCHIHA)..OR looses the close person which has a traumatizing effect (in case of obito) he developes this type-2 ms...i m saying this because sishui isn't the type of person who will kill his friend.....i know...kakashi killed rin but the reasons r still unknown...so all i can say is that both obito and kakashi lost someone close and repented respectively and got themselves MS-TYPE-2....
and EMS type-2 =(MS type-2 + MS type-2 of anothere person most preferably brother)....e.g:-yet to be seen.

share ur thoughts guys....

 

[shri3kbat]

No it's genetic. If what you said was true how do you explain that Kakashi and Obito have the same abilities? They are eyes of a pair and the ms of Kakashi and Obito were unlocked with the different methods you described

 

[A Shell Of My Former Self]

Good theory.
But did Madara even feel responsible for the death of his brother, Izuna?
Another thing is that Itachi didn't actually kill Shisui or am I just wrong?

 

[KuroKaze]

No it's genetic. If what you said was true how do you explain that Kakashi and Obito have the same abilities? They are eyes of a pair and the ms of Kakashi and Obito were unlocked with the different methods you described

becoz their eyes are linked....i dont know whether kakashi and obito both awakened their ms at the same time or...
its obito who did it...and becoz of their link...kakashi got automatically....
in either case....their eyes r linked...and they witnessed the same person's(RIN"S) death...hence same MS....

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

i dunno whether this has been pointed out by anyone or no... but here it is:
MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN TYPE-1:-

it the mangekyou sharingan...that enables the person the 3 dojutsu namely tsukiyomi , amaterasu , susanoo ((mainly these 3...with a little variation as seen in case of itachi who had ""all the 3"", sasuke who has ""amateasu,amaterasu manipulation,susanoo""and madara who has "susanoo,tsukuyomi,perfect susanoo")).....

MY THEORY:: when an uchiha kills another clansmen...or in other words kills another uchiha AND/OR feels responsible for his death......this type-1 ms activates....
and EMS type-1=(MS-type-1 + MS-type-1 of another person most preferably brother)....e.g:-madara,sasuke

MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN TYPE-2:-

it is some special ms..that enables the user some special dojutsu ...like in case of kakakshi and obito its kamui...and in case of sishui its KA....
MY THEORY:: when an uchiha repents/feels responsible for some one close(BUT A NON-UCHIHA)..OR looses the close person which has a traumatizing effect (in case of obito) he developes this type-2 ms...i m saying this because sishui isn't the type of person who will kill his friend.....i know...kakashi killed rin but the reasons r still unknown...so all i can say is that both obito and kakashi lost someone close and repented respectively and got themselves MS-TYPE-2....
and EMS type-2 =(MS type-2 + MS type-2 of anothere person most preferably brother)....e.g:-yet to be seen.

share ur thoughts guys....

I have a set up that should explain more clearly




SHARINGAN
IZANAGI
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KAMUI(PERSONAL UNIQUE JUSTU)
AMATERASU-TSUKUYOMI
SUUSANOO


Everyone has their own ability that they aquire besides the three abilities usually granted by the mangekyo sharingan.The fourth justu will be different for everyone.






SHARINGAN
IZANAGI
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ENTON(PERSONAL UNIQUE JUSTU)
AMATERASU-TSUKUYOMI
SUUSANOO



SHARINGAN
IZANAGI
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kotoamatsukami(PERSONAL UNIQUE JUSTU)
AMATERASU-TSUKUYOMI
SUUSANOO

 

[KuroKaze]

Good theory.
But did Madara even feel responsible for the death of his brother, Izuna?
Another thing is that Itachi didn't actually kill Shisui or am I just wrong?

1st of all i used the word "AND/OR"....so in case of itachi he didn't kill but felt somewhat responsible...and hence....
and in case of madara...he killed an unknown uchiha to get his ms....not his brother...i dont know whether he repented for this or not but as per my MS-TYPE-1 theory....he killed his clansmen...hence ....

 

[oShux]

Nah i think it's random kishi should explain this though and itachi didnt kill shisui

 

[KuroKaze]

I have a set up that should explain more clearly




SHARINGAN
IZANAGI
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KAMUI(PERSONAL UNIQUE JUSTU)
AMATERASU-TSUKUYOMI
SUUSANOO


Everyone has their own ability that they aquire besides the three abilities usually granted by the mangekyo sharingan.The fourth justu will be different for everyone.






SHARINGAN
IZANAGI
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ENTON(PERSONAL UNIQUE JUSTU)
AMATERASU-TSUKUYOMI
SUUSANOO



SHARINGAN
IZANAGI
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kotoamatsukami(PERSONAL UNIQUE JUSTU)
AMATERASU-TSUKUYOMI
SUUSANOO

u have put forward a general scenario...
my point was to differentiate the ms with respect to the user....
i.e in madara or sasauke...they killed/repented death of an uchiha...
in kakashi/obito's/sishui's(most probabaly) case...its rin(a non uchiha)...

 

[KuroKaze]

Nah i think it's random kishi should explain this though and itachi didnt kill shisui

ya u may be correct...it was a theory to explain the two types of ms THAT EXISTS TILL NOW....so ya it may be random.

 

[FXW]

I have a set up that should explain more clearly




SHARINGAN
IZANAGI
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KAMUI(PERSONAL UNIQUE JUSTU)
AMATERASU-TSUKUYOMI
SUUSANOO


Everyone has their own ability that they aquire besides the three abilities usually granted by the mangekyo sharingan.The fourth justu will be different for everyone.






SHARINGAN
IZANAGI
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ENTON(PERSONAL UNIQUE JUSTU)
AMATERASU-TSUKUYOMI
SUUSANOO



SHARINGAN
IZANAGI
MANGEKYO SHARINGAN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kotoamatsukami(PERSONAL UNIQUE JUSTU)
AMATERASU-TSUKUYOMI
SUUSANOO

How can you assume that Amaterasu, Tsukuyoma and Susanoo are "generic" abilities? So far, only Itachi, Sasuke and Madara have shown that they can use it. Itachi and Sasuke are brothers, so they probably share the same abilities. We don't know yet how those 2 are related to Madara, so I can't tell for him. The other people who have awakened the Mangekyo (Shisui and Obito) have never shown to have the 3 jutsus.

 

[shri3kbat]

becoz their eyes are linked....i dont know whether kakashi and obito both awakened their ms at the same time or...
its obito who did it...and becoz of their link...kakashi got automatically....
in either case....their eyes r linked...and they witnessed the same person's(RIN"S) death...hence same MS....

Ok so you mean Obito's experience overwrote Kakashi's despite the fact he did the killing and they both got the "type 2 ms"? Because what Kakashi did should unlock the same MS as Sasuke had then. No, it's just illogical.
Obito and Kakashi got the inherited powers of Obito. No matter how he gained MS he was destined to have these abilities

Itachi and Sasuke also have the same MS abilities yet their experiences were different.. It makes sense however they do share abilities because they're blood related..