Naruto >>Madara (READ READ READ)

[shelke]

lol your missing the point

the databook AND manga is right
BUT databook was right UNTIL the manga stated "only double mangekyou is needed to unlock susano", NOT amaterasu and tsukuyomi specifically

the manga is more RECENT info

and AGAIN i said ITACHI WAS TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF

If Itachi was talking about himself, then Sasuke was not talking about Itachi or himself, because according to you, every sussano is unlocked differently and every sharingen ability is unlocked differently, yet there is zero proof in manga to suggest that.

 

[~Sovereign~]

If Itachi was talking about himself, then Sasuke was not talking about Itachi or himself, because according to you, every sussano is unlocked differently and every sharingen ability is unlocked differently, yet there is zero proof in manga to suggest that.

YES EXACTLY

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sasuke wasnt talking about ANYONE
he was talking about susano PERIOD

 

[Datguyjr]

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WOOOW so noooww nagato has weak paths????? THE SAME PATHS THAT WIPED KONOHA OFF THE MAP ARE WEAK??????????????????????????????????

your obviously either a naruto hater or a madara fanboy or BOTH

Yes, Nagato at that time was using weaker Paths,

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WHY CANT NARUTO USE KURAMA'S POWER??? KURAMA IS APART OF HIM......AND KURAMA IS THE REASON WHY NARUTO CANT FUSE WITH MA AND PA FOR THE PERFECT SAGE MODE ANYWAY

How could Naruto use KM/BM against Madara who could absorb all his chakra with Preta Path? Taijutsu? Ninjutsu? He doesn't have Genjutsu so he only has the other two.

naruto beat pain.....hinata/minato interfered BUT konan was about to protecting pain if naruto attacked AND deidara gave pain intel on naruto......crippled nagato couldnt do ANYTHING.....deal with it naruto's talk no jutsu was to REVIVE THE VILLAGE NOT WIN THE FIGHTY

Lol & Naruto didnt have intel on Pain? Naruto had far more intel then Pain did on Naruto & Naruto only defeated Pain because of Kurama, if he didn't have Kurama he would have

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how does MADARA rinnegan>sage mode???????? madara only has preta path unless you got proof he can use all abilities

manga states the user CAAAAAN use 7 abilities but madara hasnt shown that he mastered rinnegan...unless you got proof.....example: sasuke PROBABLY should have perfect susano because he has EMS but HE HASNT MASTERED EMS

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against Rinnegan with weaker Paths being used. I already posted proof over and over that Rinnegan grants the user the use of all 7 Paths, you can believe whatever you want to believe but Manga > your opinion U_U

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Obito using Space Time Migration without any prior experience or knowledge, so much for YOUR theory that they can only use the abilities granted by their Doujutsu only when they master it lol

rasenshuriken is what forced madara to use rinnegan
HELP OF EDO TENSAI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HELP OF GAARA AND OONOKI
what do you mean "prove other wise"?

Manga shows other wise, so again, Manga > your opinion U_U

YOU said madara can create "as many as he likes" meaning madara can go until he's satisfied....WHICH IS FALSE, MADARA CAN GO UNTIL HE RUNS OUT OF CHAKRA

Who's to say he doesn't want to create 3, 5, or 7? Creating as many as he likes doesn't mean he has to keep creating until he's out of chakra.

DONT EVER PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH, i NEVER called itachi wrong...i said ITACHI was TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF........sasuke states you only need double mangekyou period, while itachi was talking about how HE unlock susano, with HIS two mangekyou, amaterasu and tsukuyomi

Like I said before, I believe Itachi who has more experience and information about the Sharingan than Sasuke does.

where in the manga does it state madara>naruto???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

sage mode > preta path/madara's rinnegan

Kishimoto portrays Hashirama & Madara to be the strongest, excluding the Sage, and its already been proven that Sage Mode is inferior to the Rinnegan, so again, Manga > your opinion. U_U

since YOUR speculating i might as well too................BM KM mode > wood + EMS PROBLEM???

Manga > your opinion, that's all I have to say.

I SAID BEFORE, WHAT DO YOU WANT LINKS TO??

All of your speculations, your have 0% proof to back anything you post.

 

[shelke]

^ Pretty much sums up everything.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Yes, Nagato at that time was using weaker Paths,

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How could Naruto use KM/BM against Madara who could absorb all his chakra with Preta Path? Taijutsu? Ninjutsu? He doesn't have Genjutsu so he only has the other two.



Lol & Naruto didnt have intel on Pain? Naruto had far more intel then Pain did on Naruto & Naruto only defeated Pain because of Kurama, if he didn't have Kurama he would have

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against Rinnegan with weaker Paths being used. I already posted proof over and over that Rinnegan grants the user the use of all 7 Paths, you can believe whatever you want to believe but Manga > your opinion U_U

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Obito using Space Time Migration without any prior experience or knowledge, so much for YOUR theory that they can only use the abilities granted by their Doujutsu only when they master it lol



Manga shows other wise, so again, Manga > your opinion U_U



Who's to say he doesn't want to create 3, 5, or 7? Creating as many as he likes doesn't mean he has to keep creating until he's out of chakra.



Like I said before, I believe Itachi who has more experience and information about the Sharingan than Sasuke does.



Kishimoto portrays Hashirama & Madara to be the strongest, excluding the Sage, and its already been proven that Sage Mode is inferior to the Rinnegan, so again, Manga > your opinion. U_U



Manga > your opinion, that's all I have to say.



All of your speculations, your have 0% proof to back anything you post.

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1. that doesnt make the weaker path "weak"...that just makes the NEWER paths STRONGER

2. sage mode>preta path

3. only intel naruto had on pain was that pain was the leader AND the gravity tech (shinra tensai)......PAIN HAD ALL THE INTEL AKATSUKI GATHER ON NARUTO

NARUTO USED KYUUBI (KYUUBI IS CONNECTED TO NARUTO)
NAGATO USED MADARA'S RINNEGAN (NAGATO TRAINED WITH IT FIRST)

4. naruto beat pain with a wild 6 tails and sage mode lol sage mode took out 5 paths
incomplete sage mode at that

5. obito had knowledge of the s/t jutsu because madara TOLD HIM ABOUT IT SMART A*Z

6. how does the manga state otherwise??? edo tensai>>>gaara & oonoki (FACT)

7. madara cant create UNLIMITED tree without edo tensai

8. kishi made sasuke state that "only double mangeykou is needed"

9. 90% of what i say is in the manga unlike you....your speculating on madara and nagato abilities

 

[Datguyjr]

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1. that doesnt make the weaker path "weak"...that just makes the NEWER paths STRONGER

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The proof that I posted is Nagato at full strength using the Paths to their maximum potential he can do, I never said Pains Paths were weak, I simply said they were weaker then Nagato's full potential.

2. sage mode>preta path

Rinnegan > Sage mode, you can be in denial as much as you want, but Manga shows that and there's nothing you can say or do that will change that.

3. only intel naruto had on pain was that pain was the leader AND the gravity tech (shinra tensai)......PAIN HAD ALL THE INTEL AKATSUKI GATHER ON NARUTO

Really? :sy:

Intel Naruto had:
- Knew each Path only possessed 1 ability
- Knew Ninjutsu doesn't work on Preta Path
- Knew the Paths had a shared vision
- Knew about Deva Paths abilities
- Knew about Naraka Paths ability
- Knew that the Paths weren't Nagato's real bodies

Intel Pain had:
- Knew Naruto possessed a powerful technique that destroyed 2 or more of Kakuzu's hearts
- Knew that Naruto doesn't listen..? lmao if that counts as intel

NARUTO USED KYUUBI (KYUUBI IS CONNECTED TO NARUTO)
NAGATO USED MADARA'S RINNEGAN (NAGATO TRAINED WITH IT FIRST)

Hey but I thought "sage mode > preta path/madara's rinnegan"?? only because of Kurama, he was able to escape his restrictions & won against Nagato, which was already weakened and at a handicap due to him destroying Konoha.

4. naruto beat pain with a wild 6 tails and sage mode lol sage mode took out 5 paths
incomplete sage mode at that

Correction Sage Mode took out 5 weaker Paths, not at their full potential and incomplete Sage Mode?? are we reading the same Manga or do you just continue to make up things as you go?

"Naruto is able to perfectly balance the natural energy with his own chakra. This allows him to use the true Sage Mode, which retains all of his normal physical characteristics except for toad-like eyes: yellow irides, horizontal bar-like pupils, and reddish-orange pigmentation around the eyes; the mark of a true sage on each eye." - Quoted from Naruto Wiki

5. obito had knowledge of the s/t jutsu because madara TOLD HIM ABOUT IT SMART A*Z

Really, he told Obito about S/T jutsu, hmm.. Link me Manga proof to back your assumption.

6. how does the manga state otherwise??? edo tensai>>>gaara & oonoki (FACT)

Before Madara used his Meteorite jutsu to wipe the field, please link me Manga proof of ET helping Madara in ANY way against his fight with Naruto, Onoki, Gaara & a portion of the 4th Division.

7. madara cant create UNLIMITED tree without edo tensai

I know that & agree, please quote me where I said he could do that.

8. kishi made sasuke state that "only double mangeykou is needed"

He also made Itachi state you need Amaterasu & Tsukuyomi to unlock Susanoo, also stated that in the Data book.

9. 90% of what i say is in the manga unlike you....your speculating on madara and nagato abilities

90% of what you say is in the Manga, really? then show Manga proof then and provide links, I'm not speculating anything, I gave Manga proof that Rinnegan grants the user all 7 Paths, Rinnegan > Sage Mode, Nagato using weaker Paths, etc.. What proof did you give again? hmm.

 

[~Sovereign~]

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The proof that I posted is Nagato at full strength using the Paths to their maximum potential he can do, I never said Pains Paths were weak, I simply said they were weaker then Nagato's full potential.



Rinnegan > Sage mode, you can be in denial as much as you want, but Manga shows that and there's nothing you can say or do that will change that.



Really? :sy:

Intel Naruto had:
- Knew each Path only possessed 1 ability
- Knew Ninjutsu doesn't work on Preta Path
- Knew the Paths had a shared vision
- Knew about Deva Paths abilities
- Knew about Naraka Paths ability
- Knew that the Paths weren't Nagato's real bodies

Intel Pain had:
- Knew Naruto possessed a powerful technique that destroyed 2 or more of Kakuzu's hearts
- Knew that Naruto doesn't listen..? lmao if that counts as intel



Hey but I thought "sage mode > preta path/madara's rinnegan"?? only because of Kurama, he was able to escape his restrictions & won against Nagato, which was already weakened and at a handicap due to him destroying Konoha.



Correction Sage Mode took out 5 weaker Paths, not at their full potential and incomplete Sage Mode?? are we reading the same Manga or do you just continue to make up things as you go?

"Naruto is able to perfectly balance the natural energy with his own chakra. This allows him to use the true Sage Mode, which retains all of his normal physical characteristics except for toad-like eyes: yellow irides, horizontal bar-like pupils, and reddish-orange pigmentation around the eyes; the mark of a true sage on each eye." - Quoted from Naruto Wiki



Really, he told Obito about S/T jutsu, hmm.. Link me Manga proof to back your assumption.



Before Madara used his Meteorite jutsu to wipe the field, please link me Manga proof of ET helping Madara in ANY way against his fight with Naruto, Onoki, Gaara & a portion of the 4th Division.



I know that & agree, please quote me where I said he could do that.



He also made Itachi state you need Amaterasu & Tsukuyomi to unlock Susanoo, also stated that in the Data book.



90% of what you say is in the Manga, really? then show Manga proof then and provide links, I'm not speculating anything, I gave Manga proof that Rinnegan grants the user all 7 Paths, Rinnegan > Sage Mode, Nagato using weaker Paths, etc.. What proof did you give again? hmm.

1. u said naruto sage mode beat weak paths NOW your changing your mind

2. nagato's rinnegan>sage mode but madara's using his own rinnegan hasnt showed that he mastered it so like i said

preta path<<sage mode

3. link?? i dont remember naruto having all that intel (naruto knew about the bodies)...nagato had FULL intel on naruto (except for sage mode) akatsuki shares their intel...i doubt deidara JUST told pain "naruto doesnt listen" and walked off lol

4. yea, sage mode>madara using his rinnegan
nagato using rinnegan>>sage mode

STOP COMPARING NAGATO TO MADARA...we have proof that nagato MASTERED RINNEGAN

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naruto couldnt fuse with the frog to have unlimited sage mode like j-man BECAUSE OF THE KYUUBI....

the kyuubi helped naruto BUT the kyuubi also caused problems manga>databook>wiki

sage mode only lasted 5 min because of kyuubi... NOTICE HOW EVERYTIME NAGATO STARTED WINNING...NARUTO HAD RAN OUT OF SAGE MODE CHAKRA

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"almost as if you slipped right through it"

7. proof? every page madara is in....EDO TENSAI itself is helping madara EVERY SECOND....undying body and unlimited chakra

8. FOR THE LAST TIME ITACHI WAS TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF BECAUSE HE SAYS "THESE EYES" AND "FATEFUL DAY"

9. what links do you want??

 

[Datguyjr]

1. u said naruto sage mode beat weak paths NOW your changing your mind

Quote me where I said that, because I didn't. I said he defeated weaker Paths.

2. nagato's rinnegan>sage mode but madara's using his own rinnegan hasnt showed that he mastered it so like i said

preta path<<sage mode

Well that's your opinion but Manga says otherwise & I go by what the Manga says.

3. link?? i dont remember naruto having all that intel (naruto knew about the bodies)...nagato had FULL intel on naruto (except for sage mode) akatsuki shares their intel...i doubt deidara JUST told pain "naruto doesnt listen" and walked off lol

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Katsuyu knew all of this and told Naruto, do you have any proof Nagato had any more intel on Naruto? Links please..

4. yea, sage mode>madara using his rinnegan
nagato using rinnegan>>sage mode

STOP COMPARING NAGATO TO MADARA...we have proof that nagato MASTERED RINNEGAN

Rinnegan is Rinnegan, whether Madara has mastered his or not, he is still able to use its abilities and so far has shown some knowledge in using it. Again, Rinnegan > Sage Mode regardless if Nagato, Obito, or Madara.

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naruto couldnt fuse with the frog to have unlimited sage mode like j-man BECAUSE OF THE KYUUBI....

the kyuubi helped naruto BUT the kyuubi also caused problems manga>databook>wiki

sage mode only lasted 5 min because of kyuubi... NOTICE HOW EVERYTIME NAGATO STARTED WINNING...NARUTO HAD RAN OUT OF SAGE MODE CHAKRA

Because Naruto couldn't use Sage Art: Amphibian Technique doesn't mean his Sage Mode isn't perfect, that just means he's not able to continuously gather Senjutsu while fighting, he still perfected Toad Sage Mode.

Notice how when Deva Path regained his powers Naruto basically lost soon after? Had Nagato not been at a handicap from destroying Konoha, Naruto would have had to deal with Deva Paths abilities also.

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"almost as if you slipped right through it"

Madara didn't know what happened nor did he know it was S/T jutsu, that's not proof -_- c'mon guy, gotta do better then that.

7. proof? every page madara is in....EDO TENSAI itself is helping madara EVERY SECOND....undying body and unlimited chakra

What attacks did anyone land on Madara that caused him to regenerate using ET? What jutsu's did Madara use that he couldn't while still alive?

Whether he's ET body or alive, the results would be the same.

8. FOR THE LAST TIME ITACHI WAS TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF BECAUSE HE SAYS "THESE EYES" AND "FATEFUL DAY"

Then why does it also state that in the data book? Also Naruto wiki? Why has Kishimoto implied that also? You have that 1 piece of evidence Sasuke said supporting your claim while there are several supporting mine.

9. what links do you want??

How many times do I have to say it? It's like you copy and paste that last sentence over and over because you can't find any proof to back what you say.

 

[shelke]

My god. Are you still at it with the whole madara having no Amatersu and Tsukiyomi? Dude, stop. Just stop. I gave you links in two threads, and here you are again.

 

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Quote me where I said that, because I didn't. I said he defeated weaker Paths.



Well that's your opinion but Manga says otherwise & I go by what the Manga says.



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Katsuyu knew all of this and told Naruto, do you have any proof Nagato had any more intel on Naruto? Links please..



Rinnegan is Rinnegan, whether Madara has mastered his or not, he is still able to use its abilities and so far has shown some knowledge in using it. Again, Rinnegan > Sage Mode regardless if Nagato, Obito, or Madara.



Because Naruto couldn't use Sage Art: Amphibian Technique doesn't mean his Sage Mode isn't perfect, that just means he's not able to continuously gather Senjutsu while fighting, he still perfected Toad Sage Mode.

Notice how when Deva Path regained his powers Naruto basically lost soon after? Had Nagato not been at a handicap from destroying Konoha, Naruto would have had to deal with Deva Paths abilities also.



Madara didn't know what happened nor did he know it was S/T jutsu, that's not proof -_- c'mon guy, gotta do better then that.



What attacks did anyone land on Madara that caused him to regenerate using ET? What jutsu's did Madara use that he couldn't while still alive?

Whether he's ET body or alive, the results would be the same.



Then why does it also state that in the data book? Also Naruto wiki? Why has Kishimoto implied that also? You have that 1 piece of evidence Sasuke said supporting your claim while there are several supporting mine.



How many times do I have to say it? It's like you copy and paste that last sentence over and over because you can't find any proof to back what you say.

1. THE WAY YOU SAID IT IS THE SAME AS SAYING WEAK....NARUTO BEAT 5 PATHS WITH A 5 MIN LIMIT SAGE MODE
it doesnt matter if the paths are weaker...5 paths was beaten regardless....even if the kyuubi helped SO WHAT? kyuubi is naruto's power

2. HOW IS THAT MY OPINION??? GIVE ME A LINK OF MADARA USING ALL 7 ABILITIES

madara hasnt shown that he can use all 7 abilities
....just like when sasuke first unlocked MS....he couldnt use amaterasu at first..SAME THING CAN GO FOR MADARA...YOU HAVE NO PROOF

3. OK..thats proof
i just told you that akatsuki shares there intel...PROOF? the fact that pain
mentioned that deidara talked to him about naruto and gave intel

4. RINNEGAN IS NOT JUST RINNEGAN....YOU HAVE TO MASTER IT.....give me a link of madara using all abilities

until i get a link sagemode> preta path (which is madara's only rinnegan tech SHOWN)

want a link??????????

5. even if naruto has a PERFECT sage mode... IT WAS LIMITED BECAUSE OF THE KYUUBI (FACT)

notice how pain took over AFTER naruto used his sage mode/clones....if kyuubi didnt reject the frogs...naruto wouldve finished the fight without evolving kyuubi EVEN THO KYUUBI IS NARUTO'S POWER

want the link again??????????

6. are you stupid? madara said "slipped through it"...everyone knows thats obito's ability..after madara told him about it...obito started training (in the manga) WANT TO LINK TO THAT TOO?

7. you really are slow or SOMETHING....regeneration ISNT the only thing EDO TENSAI give you...WHAT ABOUT about madara's unlimited chakra????????

the meteor....edo saved madara because of undying body
all these tech madara is using...madara is using his unlimited chakra
madara never gets tired....edo tensai has unlimited stamina

8. wiki is fan based (just saying)

databook is talking about itachi's susano......the databook ALSO says SUSANO has yata mirror AND totsuki blade (whatever its called) DOES MADARA OR SASUKE HAVE YATA MIRROR OR TOTSUKI BLADE ON THEIR SUSANO???????????????????????????? NO

i used the manga for my evidence, you link your the manga is itachi talking about himself NOT susano in general

manga>databook

9. and ill say it again

what link do you want?



THIS THREAD ISNT ABOUT NARUTO VS NAGATO

My god. Are you still at it with the whole madara having no Amatersu and Tsukiyomi? Dude, stop. Just stop. I gave you links in two threads, and here you are again.

i gave proof from the manga unlike you

 

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1. THE WAY YOU SAID IT IS THE SAME AS SAYING WEAK....NARUTO BEAT 5 PATHS WITH A 5 MIN LIMIT SAGE MODE
it doesnt matter if the paths are weaker...5 paths was beaten regardless....even if the kyuubi helped SO WHAT? kyuubi is naruto's power

Weaker or not at full strength does not mean weak so no it's not the same thing, once Deva Path regained his abilities Naruto lost soon after and only because of Kurama he won.

2. HOW IS THAT MY OPINION??? GIVE ME A LINK OF MADARA USING ALL 7 ABILITIES

madara hasnt shown that he can use all 7 abilities
....just like when sasuke first unlocked MS....he couldnt use amaterasu at first..SAME THING CAN GO FOR MADARA...YOU HAVE NO PROOF

Who writes the Manga, you or Kishimoto? Because Kishimoto clearly stated in HIS Manga that HE wrote that Rinnegan grants the user all 7 Paths, idc if Madara has shown the abilities or not, Manga says he has them, if you don't like it go wrote your own Manga. Im done responding on that topic.

3. OK..thats proof
i just told you that akatsuki shares there intel...PROOF? the fact that pain
mentioned that deidara talked to him about naruto and gave intel

Post proof or done talking about this, because what was shown in the Manga is that Deidara said Naruto doesn't listen and Obito said he possesses a jutsu powerful enough to destroy Kakuzus hearts.

4. RINNEGAN IS NOT JUST RINNEGAN....YOU HAVE TO MASTER IT.....give me a link of madara using all abilities

until i get a link sagemode> preta path (which is madara's only rinnegan tech SHOWN)

want a link??????????l

Yes please, give me a link from the Manga stating you have to master the Rinnegan in order to do the jutsu's, I'll wait...

5. even if naruto has a PERFECT sage mode... IT WAS LIMITED BECAUSE OF THE KYUUBI (FACT)

notice how pain took over AFTER naruto used his sage mode/clones....if kyuubi didnt reject the frogs...naruto wouldve finished the fight without evolving kyuubi EVEN THO KYUUBI IS NARUTO'S POWER

want the link again??????????

Had Nagato not been at a handicap, he would've stopped everything Naruto had to offer. U_U

6. are you stupid? madara said "slipped through it"...everyone knows thats obito's ability..after madara told him about it...obito started training (in the manga) WANT TO LINK TO THAT TOO?

Yes, give me the link of Madara knowing it was S/T and Obito training for it before he even unlocked his MS.

7. you really are slow or SOMETHING....regeneration ISNT the only thing EDO TENSAI give you...WHAT ABOUT about madara's unlimited chakra????????

the meteor....edo saved madara because of undying body
all these tech madara is using...madara is using his unlimited chakra
madara never gets tired....edo tensai has unlimited stamina

*Sigh* while alive, Madara was said to have very strong chakra and he clearly said when he used his Meteor Jutsu that it wasnt a view he was able to enjoy in a while, meaning he preformed that same technique while STILL ALIVE.. So again, what jutsu's did Madara use that required him to have unlimited chakra? 1 fire style jutsu? Taijutsu? Susanoo? Regular Sharingan Genjutsu? Lmao

8. wiki is fan based (just saying)

databook is talking about itachi's susano......the databook ALSO says SUSANO has yata mirror AND totsuki blade (whatever its called) DOES MADARA OR SASUKE HAVE YATA MIRROR OR TOTSUKI BLADE ON THEIR SUSANO???????????????????????????? NO

i used the manga for my evidence, you link your the manga is itachi talking about himself NOT susano in general

manga>databook

So why has Kishimoto implied that? Manga > your opinion.

9. and ill say it again

what link do you want?



THIS THREAD ISNT ABOUT NARUTO VS NAGATO



i gave proof from the manga unlike you

I'm still waiting on those links lmao, what proof have you provided? Oh and -rep for the insults lol, clearly a horrible debater.

 

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i gave proof from the manga unlike you

You need a pair of glasses. I have posted proof time and time again.

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- Itachi commenting on Tsukiyomi the moon and amatersu the sun.

 

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You need a pair of glasses. I have posted proof time and time again.

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- Itachi commenting on Tsukiyomi the moon and amatersu the sun.

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sasuke states you only need double mangekyou...he said nothing about tsukuyomi and amaterasu

Weaker or not at full strength does not mean weak so no it's not the same thing, once Deva Path regained his abilities Naruto lost soon after and only because of Kurama he won.



Who writes the Manga, you or Kishimoto? Because Kishimoto clearly stated in HIS Manga that HE wrote that Rinnegan grants the user all 7 Paths, idc if Madara has shown the abilities or not, Manga says he has them, if you don't like it go wrote your own Manga. Im done responding on that topic.



Post proof or done talking about this, because what was shown in the Manga is that Deidara said Naruto doesn't listen and Obito said he possesses a jutsu powerful enough to destroy Kakuzus hearts.



Yes please, give me a link from the Manga stating you have to master the Rinnegan in order to do the jutsu's, I'll wait...



Had Nagato not been at a handicap, he would've stopped everything Naruto had to offer. U_U



Yes, give me the link of Madara knowing it was S/T and Obito training for it before he even unlocked his MS.



*Sigh* while alive, Madara was said to have very strong chakra and he clearly said when he used his Meteor Jutsu that it wasnt a view he was able to enjoy in a while, meaning he preformed that same technique while STILL ALIVE.. So again, what jutsu's did Madara use that required him to have unlimited chakra? 1 fire style jutsu? Taijutsu? Susanoo? Regular Sharingan Genjutsu? Lmao



So why has Kishimoto implied that? Manga > your opinion.



I'm still waiting on those links lmao, what proof have you provided? Oh and -rep for the insults lol, clearly a horrible debater.

1. kyuubi is naruto's power....WHO WON???? naruto WHO LOST??? nagato END OF DISCUSSION
this thread is about naruto vs madara

2. idc who wrote the manga...show me a link of madara using all 7 abilities

3. i just proved to you that akatsuki shares their intel with each other....deidara told pain

EITHER WAY NAGATO LOST TO A 16 year old...kyuubi is no excuse....if pain had no intel on naruto HE SHOULDNT HAVE FOUGHT THEN

4. something is wrong with you mentally....EVERYONE HAS TO MASTER JUTSU BEFORE THEY USE THEM...stop being stupid

5. nagato shouldnt have been handicap...if nagato he wasnt in condition to fight....he shouldve stayed where he was

6. dont put words in my mouth...i said madara told him that he "slipped through" that is tobi's ability like it or not

7. SO BASICALLY YOUR SAYING EDO TENSAI ISNT HELPING MADARA?????????????????????????????????????? im done debating now

8. so your saying madara and sasuke has yata mirror AND totsuki blade???????????????????? LMAO GIVE ME A LINK OF MADARA AND SASUKE USING YATA MIRROR AND TOTSUKI BLADE

9. ARE YOU STUPID? I KEEP SAYING WHAT DO YOU WANT A LINK TO

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT NARUTO>>MADARA WITHOUT EDO TENSAI

 

[Valen]

So you're thread name is Naruto>Madara

But you explain why Madara>Naruto?

 

[NarutoIndra]

Well Naruto has torii seal so your statement is void. Non-edo Madara would still tear BM Naruto to shreds right now. Even though a tbb from Kurama would make perfect susanoo into dust. He said comparable to a bijuu but not the most powerful bijuu. Naruto isn't going to rasengan barrage every time madara uses moukoton that's just retarded. Madara has the experience and intelligence while Naruto lacks in those departments. Naruto can't use ninjutsu on Madara since he will absorb it just like he did to his frs. Naruto still needs a few power-ups to be on a par with Madara let alone win. I'm guessing he will get 'that jutsu' the bijuu's powers he recieved will do something, and maybe combine sm+bm.

 

[Datguyjr]

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sasuke states you only need double mangekyou...he said nothing about tsukuyomi and amaterasu



1. kyuubi is naruto's power....WHO WON???? naruto WHO LOST??? nagato END OF DISCUSSION
this thread is about naruto vs madara

2. idc who wrote the manga...show me a link of madara using all 7 abilities

3. i just proved to you that akatsuki shares their intel with each other....deidara told pain

EITHER WAY NAGATO LOST TO A 16 year old...kyuubi is no excuse....if pain had no intel on naruto HE SHOULDNT HAVE FOUGHT THEN

4. something is wrong with you mentally....EVERYONE HAS TO MASTER JUTSU BEFORE THEY USE THEM...stop being stupid

5. nagato shouldnt have been handicap...if nagato he wasnt in condition to fight....he shouldve stayed where he was

6. dont put words in my mouth...i said madara told him that he "slipped through" that is tobi's ability like it or not

7. SO BASICALLY YOUR SAYING EDO TENSAI ISNT HELPING MADARA?????????????????????????????????????? im done debating now

8. so your saying madara and sasuke has yata mirror AND totsuki blade???????????????????? LMAO GIVE ME A LINK OF MADARA AND SASUKE USING YATA MIRROR AND TOTSUKI BLADE

9. ARE YOU STUPID? I KEEP SAYING WHAT DO YOU WANT A LINK TO

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT NARUTO>>MADARA WITHOUT EDO TENSAI

Yet again, every post you write has no proof, nothing from the Manga, no links lol.. You haven't proven me wrong once while what I post has the Manga backing it.

datguy - lost count on how many wins lol
You - 0 U_U

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

Euuuh , NON !

 

[Scorps]

If this thread continues with this insult prone attitude, i'll trash it. Discuss in civil ways or this behavior will lead to infractions.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Yet again, every post you write has no proof, nothing from the Manga, no links lol.. You haven't proven me wrong once while what I post has the Manga backing it.

datguy - lost count on how many wins lol
You - 0 U_U

You're wasting your time with that retard. He's only correct on a few things though, you can't use Nagato being handicapped as an excuse. It was his choice to fight Naruto and Konoha, he could've waited to heal so that he could fight Naruto. Saying Naruto only won deva path because of kurama is like saying Sasuke will win his upcoming fights with EMS because of Itachi's eyes. The rest you are correct, but Madar and Sasuke don't have yata mirror or totsuka blade, there's only one of them, and Orochimaru was searching for it all his life; until he found out Itachi's Suanoo had it.

 

[shelke]

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sasuke states you only need double mangekyou...he said nothing about tsukuyomi and amaterasu

The links I gave you for Sasuke directly link up to the link you keep posting over and over and over again. So according to you, whatever anyone else says on the Sussaon's requirements in the manga is false, because this one thing holds your logic? My god. LOL I am done. This is too lame, even for me.