EMS Sasuke vs Jiraya

[Joki]

"argumentum ad populum"

I see you use this as an excuse to write all this retarded BS, it just shows that you don't care about any one else's opinion and thinks you are right about everything, we already got that. That's why I said you are no different from any other troll / fanboy in this forum and is the exact reason no one wants to argue with you. There is no point in arguing with someone who is already 100% convinced he is right no matter the amount of evidence against it. Also the statements you make are in no way conservative, in fact most of it looks like an attempted flame bait.

The other thing is that none of these "fictional battles" in the vs section can be 100% proven, so anyone can believe what they want....

With the same principle I can make some stupid statements too...

"Kakashi > Nagato Kamui GG"

"Minato > Rinnegan Obito"

This battle has an obvious outcome, and that is Sasuke stomping Jiraiya. Same as Naruto stomping Sasuke. Only fanboys argue otherwise. Like I said you would pretty much flame anyone arguing against what you believe is a stomp, but in the flip situation, it is "argumentum ad populum"

It's called a logical fallacy, it's completely ridiculous to assume the popular opinion is right about something based solely on the fact that the popular opinion thinks it. Especially coming from a place like Narutobase. Conversely I could say "hurr youre just mad that I'm right about you committing that fallacy so you can say 'durp ur using that as an excuse when ur wrong'".

More so, you contradict yourself (not unlike you to do such things) when saying "No vs thread is 100% proven" and proceed to say "only fanboys would think otherwise at the outcome of this battle"? What? Now who exactly is arrogant for claiming no other side could possibly be correct other than their own?

Definitely not me who offered a chance for you to be professional about this and act like an adult. But unfortunately, I expected too much. From all of your spam in your post it's confirmed you don't actually have anything to contribute to the actual match and continue to act childish and flame.

So you don't actually want to debate the matchup intelligently, instead continue flaming me because you're butthurt. Didn't think so. But thanks for trying I guess, you did your best.

 

[Bogard]

Jiraya is really underrated here. This guy is too skillfull to be beaten by someone like Sasuke. Jiraya is Itachis level

 

[Turson]

Jiraya is really underrated here. This guy is too skillfull to be beaten by someone like Sasuke. Jiraya is Itachis level

Jiraiya is skillfull, Sasuke is stronger and skillfull as well. Thats all there is to it.

 

[Icelerate]

That's argumentum ad populum straight from the book. You can let me know what posts are "retarded" when you start trying to act like a grown up. "lol ur fav char gets owned and the whole base says so. I'm totally not going to try and professionally discuss this though, instead ill be immature and flame" There's a reason you guys don't even try to debate with me let alone intelligently though, right? Yeah...I think we all know the reason for that.

I already argued with you last time and we all know how that turned out. You asked for scans, I gave you a plethora of them. Even still, I have yet to counter your points and I will do so eventually.

And like I said in my 1st post I highly doubt Nazgul's serious. Unless you actually think Sasuke can beat 20 Jiraiyas at once? I guess the question of whose posts were retarded are answered then. Now why would I take either of you seriously with glorious posts like these? "we owned you lol youre just mad".

None of us think Sasuke can do that but do you think Hashirama beats 20 Itachis? You said it right here

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It's called a logical fallacy, it's completely ridiculous to assume the popular opinion is right about something based solely on the fact that the popular opinion thinks it. Especially coming from a place like Narutobase. Conversely I could say "hurr youre just mad that I'm right about you committing that fallacy so you can say 'durp ur using that as an excuse when ur wrong'".

It goes both ways, if people think you are wrong, you might actually be wrong. It should be obvious given manga implications that Sasuke has surpassed Jiraiya.

More so, you contradict yourself (not unlike you to do such things) when saying "No vs thread is 100% proven" and proceed to say "only fanboys would think otherwise at the outcome of this battle"? What? Now who exactly is arrogant for claiming no other side could possibly be correct other than their own?

You claim some of the most ridiculous stuff. Even Blaze Release thinks you are a troll and he is one of the most logical posters/debaters here. He no longer goes to the VS section though because of people like you.

Definitely not me who offered a chance for you to be professional about this and act like an adult. But unfortunately, I expected too much. From all of your spam in your post it's confirmed you don't actually have anything to contribute to the actual match and continue to act childish and flame.

No one is flaming you.

So you don't actually want to debate the matchup intelligently, instead continue flaming me because you're butthurt. Didn't think so. But thanks for trying I guess, you did your best.

I don't really want to but I do admit I have underrated Jiraiya. Sasuke would have some trouble beating him but he should win this without too much difficulty.

Jiraya is really underrated here. This guy is too skillfull to be beaten by someone like Sasuke. Jiraya is Itachis level

Well Jiraiya is in Itachi's league only when it comes to power and versatility while Itachi is smarter and more skilled than Jiraiya. Sasuke is stronger than Jiraiya but both of them are on the same level as intelligence although I'd say Jiraiya is smarter based on experience. Anyway none of that matters.

 

[Joki]

I already argued with you last time and we all know how that turned out. You asked for scans, I gave you a plethora of them. Even still, I have yet to counter your points and I will do so eventually.

None of us think Sasuke can do that but do you think Hashirama beats 20 Itachis? You said it right here

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It goes both ways, if people think you are wrong, you might actually be wrong. It should be obvious given manga implications that Sasuke has surpassed Jiraiya.

You claim some of the most ridiculous stuff. Even Blaze Release thinks you are a troll and he is one of the most logical posters/debaters here. He no longer goes to the VS section though because of people like you.

No one is flaming you.

I don't really want to but I do admit I have underrated Jiraiya. Sasuke would have some trouble beating him but he should win this without too much difficulty.

Well Jiraiya is in Itachi's league only when it comes to power and versatility while Itachi is smarter and more skilled than Jiraiya. Sasuke is stronger than Jiraiya but both of them are on the same level as intelligence although I'd say Jiraiya is smarter based on experience. Anyway none of that matters.

The difference between Hashirama and Itachi in power is FAR greater than Jiraiya and Sasuke in power and that says a lot. Hashirama is a god in Narutoverse, anyone actually arguing otherwise hasn't read the manga. Hashirama would fodderize a dozen Sasuke, Jiraiya and Itachis at the same time, and I don't even like Hashirama.

..until Jiraiya casually waves a hand and instantly reappears and solos Narutoverse, but that's only because it's obligatory because he can't lose.

Saying I claim ridiculous stuff is entirely subjective especially when you refuse to debate the actual matchups in which you think I claim ridiculous stuff in the first place. And I've never once actually said "I'm right 100% and anyone who says otherwise is a complete buffoon" while serious unless it's a matchup like Madara vs Sakura. I would be a hypocrite if I did that because basically everyone else I've seen say that is horribly arrogant and retarded and I yell at them for it. Including Nazgul who happened to contradict himself in the grand new record time span of 1 paragraph.

Do you want to actually debate the matchup? or are you going to keep saying "youre making retarded posts and people who you debate with call you a troll because they cant handle your leet skillz so that means its obviously true and your posts are too stupid to take seriously -insert a bunch of irrelevant opinions of mine on other matchups that dont involve this match in any way-"

I would be glad to argue the match up in a civil manner like mature human beings, but it's clearly extremely difficult for some people on NB to do.