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Why are people rating Obito so poorly, if anything Itachi is the worse considering he's practically blind. Obito still has Hashirama's cells as well as a few techniques like that wack a mole technique.

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itachi wouldn't be almost blind if didn't have sharingan, since MS caused it. :)
 

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As you wish.


And I don't think you'll be hypocritical enough to say that fighting evenly with a strong jonin at the age of 13 is a small feat.
Itachi was not shown defeating even a chunin without his Sharingan. As I said, he absolutely, in 100% of instances, used Sharingan in all his known fights. Hell, he even had it activated most of the time outside the battles.

Just if you want more instances, here, maybe you'll shut up:
- Kakashi stopping Sasuke's Chidori, no Sharingan.
- Kakashi defeating Sasuke in a taijutsu spar, no Sharingan.

Oh geez wow, I never thought kakashi never had any sharingen before the whole Obito incident. Silly me.

Those last two links are fights? A nearly blinded opponent? Defeating Sasuke with taijutsu? Nice self-made fact. Sasuke clearly blocked it even though he was almost blind. That isn't getting defeated, it's effective blocking. Is that all you have? Face it, Kakashi always resorts to sharingen in tougher fights. So your point about Itachi over-using sharingen is laughable, when copying 1000 jutsus is quite the lark in itself, when this is what Kakashi is famous for. Now maybe you'll shut up?

Case in point, if I am a shameless uchiha freak, then you are exhibiting blind Kakashi love. Those points in versus thread are quite the love letters. And now I am going to bed. Tomorrow, we shall discuss more.
 

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Seriously, what has Madara done without Dojutsu or Senju DNA? Strong fire techs? OMG HIGH KAGE
 

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1) Madara-Kage-He still has Mokuton.
2) Kakashi-High Jounin
3) Itachi-High Jounin
4) Sasuke-Mid Jounin
 

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As you wish. :rolleyes:


And I don't think you'll be hypocritical enough to say that fighting evenly with a strong jonin at the age of 13 is a small feat.
Itachi was not shown defeating even a chunin without his Sharingan. As I said, he absolutely, in 100% of instances, used Sharingan in all his known fights. Hell, he even had it activated most of the time outside the battles.

Just if you want more instances, here, maybe you'll shut up:
- Kakashi stopping Sasuke's Chidori, no Sharingan.
- Kakashi defeating Sasuke in a taijutsu spar, no Sharingan.

lmfao sasuke wasit using sharingan then and was drained from a long hard battle with danzo and still forced kakashi to use kamui his strongest jutsu id like to see kakashi do that to a 100% sasuke or any ms user
 

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Oh geez wow, I never thought kakashi never had any sharingen before the whole Obito incident. Silly me.

Those last two links are fights? A nearly blinded opponent? Defeating Sasuke with taijutsu? Nice self-made fact. Sasuke clearly blocked it even though he was almost blind. That isn't getting defeated, it's effective blocking. Is that all you have? Face it, Kakashi always resorts to sharingen in tougher fights. So your point about Itachi over-using sharingen is laughable, when copying 1000 jutsus is quite the lark in itself, when this is what Kakashi is famous for. Now maybe you'll shut up?

Case in point, if I am a shameless uchiha freak, then you are exhibiting blind Kakashi love. Those points in versus thread are quite the love letters. And now I am going to bed. Tomorrow, we shall discuss more.

Get your facts straight before posting, Sasuke had his Sharingan inactive at that time, BUT he wasn't blind at all yet. :rolleyes:
He started going blind when he thought he could spam his Susanoo as shit against Kakashi. :lmao:
(PS: That was after the scan I presented, just in case you don't know)

Sasuke clearly blocked it

Kakashi clearly had the upper hand, he swiftly avoided Sasuke's kick while Sasuke could only block Kakashi's.

Kakashi always resorts to sharingen in tougher fights.

Itachi resorts to Sharingan even in smaller fights. :rolleyes:
According to you, Kakashi is so beneath Itachi, right? Especially in Part I?
Then, according to you, Itachi resorts to MS even in such "small" fights as against Part I Kakashi.
Now you have to choose - either Itachi had no option but to use MS against part I Kakashi or he overuses his Sharingan. There's no third option available and I'm pretty interested in your choice, anyway.

1) Madara-Kage-He still has Mokuton.
2) Kakashi-High Jounin
3) Itachi-High Jounin
4) Sasuke-Mid Jounin

This is very accurate, rep +.
 
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1) Madara-Kage-He still has Mokuton.
2) Kakashi-High Jounin
3) Itachi-High Jounin
4) Sasuke-Mid Jounin

how is kakashi above base sasuke and itachi and what has madara kage level also he was only able to use mokuton in edo body

so you should give sasuke CM back and also itachi still has totsuka and yata mirror there not susanoos weapons only sasuke chidori > kakashi
 

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Ill just put them in order from strongest to weakest respectively and tell you why.

Madara(Uchiha warfan),Sasuke(Kenjutsu,Speed,Summoning,Chidori Variations,Intelligence),Obito(Mokuton,Spiral Zetsu Armor),Itachi(Speed,Taijutsu,Intelligence),Kakashi(1000 jutsu)
 

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Get your facts straight before posting, Sasuke had his Sharingan inactive at that time, BUT he wasn't blind at all yet. :rolleyes:
He started going blind when he thought he could spam his Susanoo as shit against Kakashi. :lmao:
(PS: That was after the scan I presented, just in case you don't know)



This is very accurate, rep +.

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doesnt look like a sharingan
 

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how is kakashi above base sasuke and itachi and what has madara kage level also he was only able to use mokuton in edo body

so you should give sasuke CM back and also itachi still has totsuka and yata mirror there not susanoos weapons only sasuke chidori > kakashi

Itachi relies on Sharingan..Kakashi got to Jounin without it, Kakashi still has dangerous moves like Raikri Chain.
Most of Itachi's power comes from Sharingan...little of Kakashi's power comes from Sharingan.

Madara can use Mokuton since ever since he got Senju DNA which was in his prime.

Why would I give Sasuke powers he doesn't have anymore? And Raikiri Chain>Chidori...Sasuke can't even use Chidori without Sharingan.

They are weapons equipped to his Susanoo and I have no reason to believe Itachi can use them w/o Susanoo.
 

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The sharingan is what gives this clan their gifts... but if u want explanations fine
Itachi-has shown to be the smartest on the list or tied with kakashi....so with his intelligence combined with his high level taijutsu and weapon mastery...I'd say mid jonin
Kakashi- let's not forget as a kid he was promoted jonin... he has a high level of taijutsu on par with gai without the gates...is extremely smart...and if he never had the sharingan he wouldn't have copied jutsus so my guess is that he'd created a few of his own. High jonin
Sasuke- was shown to have above average taijutsu in part 1... but it would never be at the level it is now because his sharingan helped him copy lee' taijutsu...so it would have gotten better with time but not like lee's or ateleast not so soon.... he is a skilled fire tech user....chidori would be useless without sharingan....proven (read kakashi gaiden)...so that's out but he has lighting element so he would have created some other jutsu and maybe still learned kirin.. he is very skilled with weapons....but the sharingan has a bit to do with that....go watch all his past fights even in part 1...he's smart also just not on par with his brother. High chunin o low jonin
Obito...he was a chunin at a young age so idk....still seemed like fodder to me...and if he didn't have sharingan he would have no reason to be saved....... final analysis...DEAD. lol

couldnt have said it better^
 

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Madara- High Kage Lv
Obito- High Jounin/low kage
itachi- High Jounin
Kakashi- High jounin
Sasuke- High jounin
 

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Itachi relies on Sharingan..Kakashi got to Jounin without it, Kakashi still has dangerous moves like Raikri Chain.
Most of Itachi's power comes from Sharingan...little of Kakashi's power comes from Sharingan.

Madara can use Mokuton since ever since he got Senju DNA which was in his prime.

Why would I give Sasuke powers he doesn't have anymore? And Raikiri Chain>Chidori...Sasuke can't even use Chidori without Sharingan.

They are weapons equipped to his Susanoo and I have no reason to believe Itachi can use them w/o Susanoo.

itachi also is a great wtih ninja tools without sharingan fast and intelligent him and kakashi is a toss up also iruka is jonin means nothing totsuka and yata mirror could have ended up in oro hands he didnt have susanoo so why would he be searching for them?

madara ok i agree

sasuke can use chidori without sharingan
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taijutsu tie sasuke wins this high diff didnt want to put you out but you gave me no choice
 

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itachi also is a great wtih ninja tools without sharingan fast and intelligent him and kakashi is a toss up also iruka is jonin means nothing

madara ok i agree

sasuke can use chidori without sharingan
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taijutsu tie sasuke wins this high diff didnt want to put you out but you gave me no choice

I meant he can' use it effectively w/o Sharingan...he gets a tunnel vision effect and the opponent can easily counter.

Taijutsu Kakashi wins or they tie...

Jounin at 13 means something...
 

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I meant he can' use it effectively w/o Sharingan...he gets a tunnel vision effect and the opponent can easily counter.

Taijutsu Kakashi wins or they tie...

Jounin at 13 means something...

what does it means 13 sasuke > 13 kakashi he was like kakashi but with 2 sharingans and curse marks

how cant he used it effectivly he matched narutos rasengan and he was warn out
 

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what does it means 13 sasuke > 13 kakashi he was like kakashi but with 2 sharingans and curse marks

how cant he used it effectivly he matched narutos rasengan and he was warn out

I just told you how...he gets a tunnel vision effect and the opponent can easily dodge or counter with a fatal blow.

What does Sasuke at 13 have to do with this? We are talking about them currently w/o Sharingan.
 

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doesnt look like a sharingan
With just one eye uncovered(when Sasuke has both eyes open), he managed to avoid Sasukes kick, who was the one to attack and actually land a hit on him. This pic shows Kakashis superior taijutsu over Sasuke
 
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Specificly now without sharingan my list
Madara High Kage founder for a reason
Sasuke high jonin he knos alot ok
Itachi an Kakashi are mid to high jonin hard to say itachi is a gen user while i havent seen kakashi do LB w/ sharingan but hes gai level in tai soo...
Obito well wasnt very helpful fodder PERIOD also hes just a bad naruto sasuke mix an weak would get rape by tenten
 

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I just told you how...he gets a tunnel vision effect and the opponent can easily dodge or counter with a fatal blow.

What does Sasuke at 13 have to do with this? We are talking about them currently w/o Sharingan.
he only had the vision effect because of sharingan he was drained
With just one eye uncovered(when Sasuke has both eyes open), he managed to avoid Sasukes kick, who was the one to attack and actually land a hit on him. This pic shows Kakashis superior taijutsu over Sasuke

he counter one single kick makes him better in taijutsu with that logic sasuke > a taijutsu fight because he dodge he elbow please stop posting to just be posting
 
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