i dont want to hear your BS. madara clearly stated that perfect susano is his full power. he said nothing about rinnegan and mokuton
madara is USING rinnegan as he is talking about his full power. doesnt that kind of confirm full power madara = rinnegan madara using PS? if PS and JUST that > rinnegan mokuton, all other ems powers then you need help. his full power as i said is PS but only combined with everything else in his arsenal. moreover it could mean its his full powrr because now hes trying to seriously kill them
hashiramas power surpasses that.
show me the fight and ill decide that for myself. whats that? you cant?
the fan is actually more effective than preta path as it deflects ninjutsu back at the person.
we have barely seen anything from the fan. madara used a specific jutsu mixed with the fan. surely that takes too much time to be effective. madara need only hold out his hand with rinnegan active and nothing can hurt him. speed, usefulness in situations, effectiveness and versatility all go to preta over gunbai
there is absolutely nothing that implies that madara can use mokuton and rinnegan techs in conjunction with perfect susano
and why couldnt he? he used them in conjunction with the lesser susano active, and with rinnegan. he was absorbing jintons WHILE STANDING ON A FOREST HE CREATED AND USING THE FUKIN MOKUBUNSHINS. OBVIOUSLY he can do all of them simultaneously.
madara clearly stated that perfect susano is his full power. he said nothing about rinnegan and mokuton
like hes gonna say "then madara will answer you with his full power! and by that i mean this thing, rinnegan, katons, mokutons, etc. oh and i seriously want to kil you now too"
kages "well why didnt you just say "i am using full power" dude? thatd be much shorter and we'd still get the message"
madara "well..-you-..th- SHUT UP!"
i know its hard for you to accept that hashirama is the strongest
its funny. no one would have dared say this before chapter 560. and i was the one of the few who supported his known accomplishments when everyone else still wanked over minato and itachi. now kishis gone overboard. he can keep hyping this guy but he still has little to no feats and still lost to hiruzen with his brothers help. wouldnt that make hiruzen strongest if you rely so much on A > b >c logic?
kishi couldnt have made it more obvious that hashirama beat perfect susano. madara clearly stated that only hashirama could ever stop him while he was at the peak of his power(perfect susano). i didnt think that you were this retarded.
he could have said it before and would make no difference. oh wait he DID say it before. he said "i told you BEFORE only hashirama could ever stop me" which doesnt mean "he faced complete susano and defeated it". even if he did we have absolutely no idea how. for all we know it had NOTHING TO DO with power and he simply found a weak spot at its bottom or something. but you insist on saying he fought and defeated it. ok show me how he did this. wait you dont know how and neither does any other fan.
in VIz translation tsunade asked again "did grandpa really fight a guy like this?" she never asked if he fought perfect susano. and onoki said madara went easy on them, which probably means the lesser susano stages. if he used susano against a 12 year old, even the rib one, then that is absolutely embarassing. its never ever said he used it in VOTE. quite the oppposite "its said everyone who has seen this dies"
actually kabuto never said rinnegan>ems. he just said that it was the sharingans final step
why wouldnt it be above EMS then? are you saying 3 tomoe > MS even though MS is the step above it? meaning obito downgraded?
madara know his powers better than kabuto and you and he says that the full might of his ems shits on everything else in his arsenal.
if kabuto was utterly incorrect how come madara basically confirmed every word of kabuto by looking at his chest and commented that kabuto prepared well? surely if the face was there from the beginning he would be like "gee you sure did NOTHING to me. why dont you stop boasting and get out of my face, kabuto?" but he didnt. he confirmed he had been altered in chapterr 561. that was AFTER he said "you didnt create this power" it seems in 561 madara discovers kabuto very much did create some power.
he says that the full might of his ems shits on everything else in his arsenal.
no he didnt. did he say those words? no he said that he was now using his full power AND WHEN HE DID THAT HE HAD HIS FUKIN RINNEGAN OUT. rinnegan = madaras full power. just look at your own ****ing scans for once
