tsukuyomi + amaterasu = susanoo

[yondaime4]

i thought it was common knowledge but apparently its not. sasuke has tsukuyomi, madara has both tsukuyomi and amaterasu and tobi has neither.

"Madara demonstrated the ability to use Susanoo — and is therefore also able to use Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu by extension — though they have yet to be seen"


and here itachi implies that all three are a packege deal

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agree? disagree?

 

[Trollish Criminal]

the parent jutsu of Susanoo is Amaterasu

 

[Vitality]

Pretty much

 

[ElectricClover]

What?!

 

[RikudoKami]

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[yondaime4]

What?!

too complicated?

 

[theRPGdude]

Well i honestly dont know.

 

[Unbiased]

It says it In the databook which is on the website. The lack of intelligence is astounding within the majority of the fan base.

 

[ElectricClover]

too complicated?

Nah it's just this should be obvious, but so many people don't believe it.

 

[yondaime4]

Well i honestly dont know.

what dont ya know bro?

 

[yondaime4]

Nah it's just this should be obvious, but so many people don't believe it.

It says it In the databook which is on the website. The lack of intelligence is astounding within the majority of the fan base.

agreed

 

[htmwall]

sasuke and madara never showed tsukiyomi,why don't people get it,tsukiyomi is one shot genjutsu,that afterwards the victim won't be able to recover fast from it,and where in the manga sasuke or madara said tsukiyomi before casting their genjutsu they only said sharingan,plus logically what you said is false :A implies B that doesn't mean B implies A(replace A with having amaterasu and tsukiyomi,and B with having susanoo)
PS:don't bring the data book in this because i only argue with facts from the manga

 

[KidGamer65]

sasuke and madara never showed tsukiyomi,why don't people get it,tsukiyomi is one shot genjutsu,that afterwards the victim won't be able to recover fast from it,and where in the manga sasuke or madara said tsukiyomi before casting their genjutsu they only said sharingan,plus logically what you said is false :A implies B that doesn't mean B implies A(replace A with having amaterasu and tsukiyomi,and B with having susanoo)
PS:don't bring the data book in this because i only argue with facts from the manga

Itachi's Tsukuyomi is a one shot Genjutsu.

You not accepting the Databook just shows that you have no credibility....kishimoto=databook.

Databook said you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu....which means Kishimoto said it.

 

[htmwall]

Itachi's Tsukuyomi is a one shot Genjutsu.

You not accepting the Databook just shows that you have no credibility....kishimoto=databook.

Databook said you need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu....which means Kishimoto said it.

the data book is talking about itachi's susanoo,and only itachi's,plus how old is this data book?things may change through the time and character develppment

 

[yondaime4]

sasuke and madara never showed tsukiyomi,why don't people get it,tsukiyomi is one shot genjutsu,that afterwards the victim won't be able to recover fast from it,and where in the manga sasuke or madara said tsukiyomi before casting their genjutsu they only said sharingan,plus logically what you said is false :A implies B that doesn't mean B implies A(replace A with having amaterasu and tsukiyomi,and B with having susanoo)
PS:don't bring the data book in this because i only argue with facts from the manga

lol i didnt get much from what you posted but fine i wont use the data book even though it was right. just because sasuke hasnt used tsukuyomi doesnt mean he cant, and since madara hasnt used amaterasu doesnt mean he cant, but the fact that they have used susanoo means they can use both amaterasu and tsukuyomi. following?

 

[yondaime4]

sasuke and madara never showed tsukiyomi,why don't people get it,tsukiyomi is one shot genjutsu,that afterwards the victim won't be able to recover fast from it,and where in the manga sasuke or madara said tsukiyomi before casting their genjutsu they only said sharingan,plus logically what you said is false :A implies B that doesn't mean B implies A(replace A with having amaterasu and tsukiyomi,and B with having susanoo)
PS:don't bring the data book in this because i only argue with facts from the manga

lol i didnt get much from what you posted but fine i wont use the data book even though it was right. just because sasuke hasnt used tsukuyomi doesnt mean he cant, and since madara hasnt used amaterasu doesnt mean he cant, but the fact that they have used susanoo means they can use both amaterasu and tsukuyomi. following?

 

[KidGamer65]

the data book is talking about itachi's susanoo,and only itachi's,plus how old is this data book?things may change through the time and character develppment

The Databook said this one year before Sasuke got MS so the outdated argument doesn't apply here.

Also it was talking about Susanoo in general...it said "those who master Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi gain Susanoo" something along the lines of that.

And if that isn't enough..Kishimoto got this stuff from the Shinto Religion, in the Shinto Religion, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo were all born from Izanagi.

Susanoo from the nose.

Amaterasu from the Left Eye.

Tsukuyomi from the Right Eye.

 

[Zato]

the data book is talking about itachi's susanoo,and only itachi's,plus how old is this data book?things may change through the time and character develppment

The Data Book says specifically you have to have Tsukuyomi and Amateratsu to gain Susanoo. It even goes into detail why you need those two specifically.

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There are two doujutsu the use of which is allowed exclusively to those who have awakened to the clairvoyant eyes of Heaven, the Mangekyou Sharingan: Amaterasu, which speaks of Light and the material world, and Tsukuyomi, symbolizing the spiritual world and Darkness. Only in them who hold both of those, dwells the power of the wild, rampaging god... Susanoo. The materialized chakra shapes itself after the wargod's commanding face and powerful physique, and the fierce spirit won't subside until the destruction of all the enemies in its line of sight...!!

Another Databook 3 translation

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Amateratsu symbolizes the ''Light of the Material World'' while Tsukiyomi symbolizes ''the Darkness of the Spiritual World''. Those who master both can call upon the power of the raging god of battle (aragami) which is Susanoo. It's materialized chakra, taking the form of the great fighting god and it will destroy all the enemies in front of its eyes.

You need BOTH! Kishi says so!!! Sasuke has Tsukuyomi and Amateratsu. Sasuke's Tsukuyomi is just much weaker compared to Itachi's. But Sasuke's amateratsu is much stronger compared to Itachi's.

 

[htmwall]

lol i didnt get much from what you posted but fine i wont use the data book even though it was right. just because sasuke hasnt used tsukuyomi doesnt mean he cant, and since madara hasnt used amaterasu doesnt mean he cant, but the fact that they have used susanoo means they can use both amaterasu and tsukuyomi. following?

what did you say is logically false,well here is an example if i bought a pc with 500$,does that means yours is the same
OT:data book was talking about itachi's susanoo
well i'm tired of fighting over this matter we'll have to wait and see madara using his eye powers for everything to be clear

 

[Onslaught]

The manga page you posted doesnt prove you need both to unlock susano. Itachi said that he awoke susano the same day as amaterasu and tsukoyomy. When sasuke will say tsukoyomy or someone else will use blaze release or the databook will states that sasuka and madara have both power I will be happy to trust you but for the moment in my opinion you only need the double mengekyo to unlock susano like sasuke said at the kage summit ans sasuke has amaterasu and blaze release and madara has unknown power.