Tsunade does not have a sage mode

[DeadManWonderLand]

Slugs can regenerate body parts which is why most people assume she has a sage mode and the other reason which is not a reason in itself is the fact her other two members of her original team have a sage mode.

The fact is the reference to the slugs inherant healing nature have already been covered by here strength of hundred men technique.Which is a forbidden technique that is accessible to those who have mastered the Creation Rebirth technique, and as such, is only usable by Tsunade.Tsunade's wounds begin to heal as soon as they are inflicted, whereas the Creation Rebirth technique needs Tsunade's input to both activate.Any wound sustained while this technique is in effect will begin recovery automatically. which facilitates the regeneration of injuries through rapid accelerated cell division — it does not require the use of hand seals.This is her ultimate ninjustu that lets her break the first three rules that govern her usual role on the battlefield.This is the epitome of healing ninjustu and there is nothing above this except for straight up immortality lol

If you are going to post make sure you provide evidence not opinion to whatever point your are trying to make.Saying Jiraiya and oro have a sage mode so she must have sage mode does not make the notion true and if so then you clearly have no idea what the difference between opinion and fact is and if you cant make the distinction do not bother posting on this thread.It also stands to reason that there is obviously no slug sage mode considering that the slug princess does not have it.And NO being titled the slug princess does not mean that a slug sage mode exist either and that she somehow has the latter.It is a reference to her slug summoning.So what is the third sage mode if it is not slug oriented ?

I have a theory that i stumbled across not too long ago>>>>Shikkotsurin - the third sage mode
Also before anyone starts posting saying that the info provided in the link is assumptious know that i am well aware and that is why its called a theory.

The traits of crows / ravens
The Myth of Yatagarasu
The Relevance of the Tripedal Crow in Asia
How these link to the Shikkotsurin or Humid Bone Forest
Telltale clues in the Manga
Discussing the possibility of a Crow Mode



A. The traits of crows / ravens
1. Crows have a personality.
They are generally very peaceful birds and very intelligent. However, they also tend to be aggressive, playful and mocking. A crow is rarely forgotten once it sounds because of its harsh, powerful yet sweet tone.
2. Their Habitat.
Crows have originated in the tropical areas of the Old World, particularly Rainforests which have high humidity. Even today they still live primarily in forests where they eat basically anything.
3. Humidity and food.
Crows are scavengers and thus will eat anything. They are known for eating roadkill, rotten corpses, rotten food and they clean their food in water and humidity. They only eat flesh and leave the bones intact.

B. The Myth of Yatagarasu
1. Explanation of the term 'Yatagarasu'
Yatagarasu (kanji: 八咫烏) literally means "eight-span crow" or "eight-headed" crow. He is the guardian god of the sun and is generally depicted with three legs. Yatagarasu has various other appearances in other Asian countries, primarily in the "big three": China, Japan and Korea.
2. Japan.
Yatagarasu's role was small in the beginning, even though he was a deity. There are basically two steps of his legend:
- One is being a messenger / spy for the other Kami; Yatagarasu's appearance was regarded as an omen for either something really good or bad.
His permanent appearance was through the Koto Amatsukami, namely Takagi no Kami and Amaterasu who sent Yatagarasu as a savior to end Emperor Jimmu's war.
- The second step of his legend is that of a hero and savior. There are two myths known in the Kojiki and Nihon Shoki:
In the first one it's Amaterasu who is threatened by a terrible monster with great authority. The people were crying for a savior to come and slay the beast. And so, Yatagarasu came and slew the beast. Amaterasu's life was saved by her guardian, the crow Yatagarasu.
The second one involves a war again. Kamo Taketsunimi no Mikoto, the founder of the Kamo-Agatanushi clan, saved the people by turning into a great crow and thus ending the war. The Kamo Ataganushi, which still exist today in Japan, were called the descendants of that kami.
Yatagarasu is still worshipped today in many Japanese shrines.
3. Korea
In Korea, that crow is called Samjoko and is Korea's symbol of tremendous power, superior to both the dragon and the phoenix. In the Goguryeo period, the Korean kings used that crow as a symbol of power.
4. China.
The crow has three names in China: Sanzuwu (three-legged bird), Yangwu/Jinwu (golden crow). It's the guardian of the sun and symbolizes light.

C. The relevance of the Tripedal Crow in Asia
1. Japan
As a Kami, Yatagarasu holds a tremendous importance in the Japanese Shinto culture.
- Yatagarasu is the Emblem of both the Japanese Emperor and the National Football Team. Winners of the Emperor's Cup wear the Yatagarasu emblem.
- In Japan, Yatagarasu is considered a creed of courage and benevolence, seeing as Yatagarasu saved the Japanese people numerous times.
2. Korea
In Korea, the Samjoko is still considered a national emblem due to it's prestigeous power status. It symbolizes superiority, intelligence and millitary might.
3. China
The Sanzuwu was THE Emblem of the Chinese empire. It was everywhere: In the palace, on imperial garnments and there were even Twelve Medallions in the Imperial Palace; Sanzuwu is one of them.
When the Chinese empire met with the Japanese, Chinese ambassadors brought the Japanese a dead crow with three legs. It's also held that the Chinese used the Sanzuwu as a totem, similar to the Romans' SPQR.

So all in all, the Tripedal Crow is a symbol of power.

D. How all this links to Shikkotsurin = Crow's land
Shikkotsurin literally means 'Humid Bone Forest'. Let's break that term apart and apply what we have learned about crows so far:
Humid
The origin of crows is the Rainforest with high humidity. Crows wash their prey in water before eating it.
Bone
Crows are scavengers, eating corpses and decay. Of all flesh they eat, they leave bones behind.
Forest
The origin of crows is the forest. Even today, most crows and corvids live in forests and prey on insects and flesh.

E. Telltale clues in the Manga
Itachi.
- Itachi heavily links with crows, death and decay. Wherever he goes, death follows.
- He was a messenger/spy for Konoha; his primary reason for joining Akatsuki.
- In the databook, Itachi is regarded as a true hero for his sacrifice.
- Itachi was - and still is - an emblem of power and intelligence, similar to all the crows in the myth.
- He was guiding Naruto and now is guiding Sasuke in a way.
- Itachi was freed through a Jutsu called Koto Amatsukami. The same Koto Amatsukami in the myth that marked Yatagarasu's hero stage, ending many wars.
Sasuke
- Sasuke is not depicted as a hawk at all. Kishimoto depicts him as a Karasu Tengu, a crow demon.
- He used the vision of Karasu Bunshin in the Danzo fight.
- It is said that Sasuke will adapt Itachi's things once he is saved, inculding all his crow traits.
- The hawk seems to hold no general importance anymore, but the crow always had massive importance through Sasuke as well.
Susanoo
- Susanoo's current theme seems to be bones only, no flesh at all. In fact, it is Susanoo's true form before mastering the next stages.

F. Discussing the possibility of a Crow Mode
- The crow has massive mythological importance; it's perhaps the most important Kami after Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo.
- Three mythological places are said to exist in the Kojiki. In the Naruto manga they are the following:
-> Myobokuzan, the Toad Mountain - Naruto's SM
-> Ryuchido, the Dragon's Nest - Kabuto's SM
-> Shikkokutsurin, the forest that is (possibly) the den of the crows - Possible Tengu/Crow mode
- The Crow mode / Tengu mode might be the counterpart to the Sage Mode which is equally powerful. It is theorised that SM belongs to the Younger Son of Rikudou; Likewise, Crow mode belongs to the Elder Son.
- Tengu, particularly Karasu Tengu, in Japanese mythology are teachers of Ninjutsu, the human arts. Rikudou Sennin is regarded as the founder of Ninjutsu, marking the advent of Shinobi.
Since RS had two sons with two different natures, the means of gaining SM and the crow mode could be different:
-> SM relies on natural energy and a calm balance. You must have a suitable body.
-> Crow mode could rely on the purity of extreme emotions, mainly rage, righteousness and the desire to protect. the Elder Son inherited the eyes, so the key of gaining Crow mode could be through the eyes.
The Will of Koto Amatsukami made Kamo Taketsunimi no Mikoto a savior through turning to Yatagarasu. He was regarded a savior to this very day.
Itachi wanted Sasuke to be a savior and a hero known to all.
- Both Itachi and Sasuke are depicted as crows; the former more than the latter. Sasuke is the image of Karasu Tengu while Itachi is the image of Yatagarasu.
- Crows mark the dragon's defeat. Taketsunimi's Yatagarasu turning marked his victory. Itachi could unlock that crow mode through extreme distress done by Kabuto to Sasuke, thus slaying the dragon brutally as vengeance.
Sasuke could unlock it when his hatred against Konoha peaks ultimately.

 

[MySusanooIsPurple]

Interesting

 

[Deadai]

Agreed, I get so annoyed hearing all these Tsunade has slug SM threads
*sigh*

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

I will only believe that there is Slug Sage Mode, if Kishimoto actually decides shows Slug Sage Mode, which there isn't one. :shrug:

 

[ShockwavvE]

SHE, doesnt have one.. But Sakura does... hehehehehhh

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Who said she had one? oh, just because Jiraiya has Sage Mode and Orochimaru Dragon Sage Mode doesn't mean she has one.

o.o is it true ?..............Every thread i go into people always bring it up i am glad there are people out there who do not assume things just because.That is a sigh of relief but since you do know that there is no reason whatsoever to believe such a stupid thing then i guess this thread is not aimed at you but for all the people who still believe in a slug sage mode

 

[Chatte]

I actually do think she has sage mode and it's about to show it because it's the perfect time.

What we've seen now with Byakugo is a characteristic that it's nevertheless compatible with Slugs in real life, where they split body parts when fighting a bigger enemy and escape danger.

However her Sage Mode would also be some sort of evolution from Slug to snail. Why? Because Shikkotsurin means Humid Bone Forest.

First of all, Senjus were known as the clan of the Forest. Slugs are known to live in humid areas because of the moisturising characteristics and the bone part might pretty much refer to the evolution from slug to snail where they develop that shell.
So that part would be like some sort of defense she might have against "bigger predators".

You will say why hasn't she used it by now? Well, because now would be the perfect timing.
All the others shown to take out Sage Mode in critical situations. Tsunade didn't brought it up by now because all they had to do was to keep him at bay until he was going to be sealed or released from Edo.
If you look at the fight, if Madara hadn't known how to release himself from the Edo contract victory would've been theirs.
But now, given the scenario and everything would be perfect timing, as I previously said.

 

[Summer]

Imo mito was a slug sage.

 

[kiros23]

Slugs can regenerate body parts which is why most people assume she has a sage mode and the other reason which is not a reason in itself is the fact her other two members of her original team have a sage mode.

are you sure oro has sage mode?

 

[Chatte]

are you sure oro has sage mode?

Yeap. Kabuto said it. It was imperfect though.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I actually do think she has sage mode and it's about to show it because it's the perfect time.

What we've seen now with Byakugo is a characteristic that it's nevertheless compatible with Slugs in real life, where they split body parts when fighting a bigger enemy and escape danger.

However her Sage Mode would also be some sort of evolution from Slug to snail. Why? Because Shikkotsurin means Humid Bone Forest.

First of all, Senjus were known as the clan of the Forest. Slugs are known to live in humid areas because of the moisturising characteristics and the bone part might pretty much refer to the evolution from slug to snail where they develop that shell.So that part would be like some sort of defense she might have against "bigger predators".

You will say why hasn't she used it by now? Well, because now would be the perfect timing.
All the others shown to take out Sage Mode in critical situations. Tsunade didn't brought it up by now because all they had to do was to keep him at bay until he was going to be sealed or released from Edo.
If you look at the fight, if Madara hadn't known how to release himself from the Edo contract victory would've been theirs.
But now, given the scenario and everything would be perfect timing, as I previously said.

Your missing the entire point of the thread the healing justu she has,has no higher level there is no going beyond being able to rapidly regenerate your cell growth to make fatal wounds irrelevant.The slugs ability to regrow parts of itself is already symbolized through this justu.The fact that there is no healing process beyond being able to regenerate cells that is the whole basis of healing.

And if you take the time to read the whole thread my theory on crow sage mode in relation to the humid bone forest farout weighs the comparisons for slugs.It would not make much sense for the clan to be referenced to the forest because tsunade a half senju born far down the line uses slugs
esp when she is the only person to use slugs.If the senju were known to use slugs i could see your point,but they dont.its a more obvious reference to hashis wood release and how he is able to make a forest landscape in the blink of an eye.

 

[kiros23]

Yeap. Kabuto said it. It was imperfect though.

so, oro imperfect sage mode = jiraiya imperfect sage mode?

can you show pic of oro imperfect sage mode?

 

[Chatte]

Your missing the entire point of the thread the healing justu she has,has no higher level there is no going beyond being able to rapidly regenerate your cell growth to make fatal wounds irrelevant.The slugs ability to regrow parts of itself is already symbolized through this
justu.And as for your points on the humid bone forest i admit that is nice but does not subseed the fact that there is no healing process beyond being able to regenerate cells that is the whole basis of healing.

Why does it have to be a healing process? Look, someone already explained it a bit more nicer than me, with facts and even nicer way to say it since English is not my first language.
Just let me search it and I will get back with a reply.

so, oro imperfect sage mode = jiraiya imperfect sage mode?

can you show pic of oro imperfect sage mode?

I am going to assume that since Kabuto said that he was imperfect Sage mode and Oro specifically said he was taking back his senjutsu chakra, I'm going with that Hydra thing.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

so, oro imperfect sage mode = jiraiya imperfect sage mode?

can you show pic of oro imperfect sage mode?

How do you come to the understainding that that the sage modes are equal because they both use imperfect forms ?

And to answer your question kabuto mentions it in his fight with the uchiha bro.If you paid attention to the fight you would of learned that the reason that juugos clan goes crazy is because they cant regulate the surplus of chakra they gain from nature and oro used it to make the curse seals.And the only reason he traveled down this road was because he could not harness the power himself due to the condition of his body and the fact his arms are seals along with a portion of his chakra making him unable to use ninjustu

 

[Chatte]

Here's the article I was talking to you about. It's better explained than I could ever do it.

Tsunade’s fellow pupils Jiraiya and Orochimaru as well as her sensei Sarutobi have shown some affinity to an animal, the animals in question being toads/frogs, snakes, and monkeys. The former two take their affinities for their summons so far that they have “modes” where they take on qualities of a particular creature to enhance their battle prowess [

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In fact, we’ve never seen a Sannin fight without some form of their summon showing up. Because of this, many have theorized (myself included) that Tsunade has her own transformation, related to slugs, that bolsters her abilities. With this parallel drawn, we have can safely assume slug mode to exist (at least for the purposes of this essay) and draw from other facts to deduce what capabilities such a form would give Tsunade.

What she, as well as her summon and pupils, have shown

I’ll start with what herself, he summon and her pupils have shown to get an idea of the nature of the abilities she has/might posses. Most notable of these are her healing abilities which are generally recognized as the greatest in the world. [

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Her medical prowess is also seen in her ability to easily counteract poison by removing it from the blood directly. [

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She has also shown the ability to use her medical knowledge offensively the most extraordinary example of this being her [

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All of this doesn’t to delve into her physical prowess, which makes her arguably the strongest human in the manga. [

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And this doesn’t even touch what her summon has shown to do. Her summon, Katsuyu. as linked in an earlier scan of her healing the village, has been shown to be able to connect with Tsunade to allow the transmission of the princess’s chakra through the slug. The slug has also been shown to be able to [

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These are all things we can consider as Tsunade’s feats, though some of them are inferred as being hers through one degree of separation (i.e. techniques she obviously taught her students). I’d like to use these feats as a jumping point into what she might show, extrapolating from the themes she uses in her unique fighting style. Before I do this however, I will first discuss some slug lore from both mythology and hard scientific fact, to further strengthen the parallels I plan to draw and the conclusions I make about her potential powers.

Slugs/snails and the princess in mythology

Before I start this section, I would like to say that my research here was a little limited as I am not fluent in Japanese. That said, if you have anything to add or correct, I’d gladly appreciate the help!

The character Tsunade herself is strongly based off of the famous Japanese novel The Tales of the Gallant Jiraiya. She, as well as her fellow pupils, has a namesake in the novel (random note: Her name itself means mooring rope, which, given her affinity to slugs, a mostly sea-based animal, as well as her titanic strength, is quite fitting). In the novel, the three have mastered three kinds of animal magic: toad magic, which lets the user turn into a toad, snake magic which lets them turn into a snake and slug magic which, as you might guess lets them turn into a slug. Kishimoto has shown the toad and snake magics with Jiraiya and Orochimaru leading us to further believe, that if he is staying true to the story, Tsunade should also have some powerful form of slug magic.

Another story of note is the Sazae-Oni, a legendary monster in myth. It is said to take on the form of a woman pretending to be drowning before it turns into a massive snail/crustacean thingy. If you attempted to mate with her, she’d castrate you and you’d have to barter to get what you’d lost back. The most interesting part here is that it is a giant snail that takes the form of a woman.

This then brings me further into the mythological significance of the snail/slug. Nu Gua is a Chinese deity, credited with creating the first humans in two sets; a beautiful set made to rule and an ugly set made to work. She is also credited with creating the caste system as well as *** and marriage, all things that made her beautiful people happy. Two other jealous God’s got made at her and her people making and rent a massive hole in the sky causing a great flood that would wipe out her people. She took colored stones, using them to repair the hole, and in doing so created the first rainbow. She was also said to use turtle shells as a means to prop heaven up permanently to prevent such a disaster again. Her physical appearance where I drew most of my interest, being described as snake-like and also being called the Snail Woman or Holy Snail.

Greater fascination with gastropods can be found further in Japanese culture and the stories it has concerning the sea cucumber. It is said that in the beginning, the gods asked the sea cucumber whether or not it would obey. Its silence and lack of mouth now represent the answer it gave then. Its sluggishness and passivity can be seen as the characteristic of non-action that is so firmly rooted in Taoist belief.

To conclude this section, I’d like to talk about the Fire trigram, and its hexagram counterpart, Hexagram No.30. This trigram is said to represent the middle daughter, and the hexagram represents light, great clarity, meshes of a net, rope, and the sun moving across the sky. It is a symbol of great understanding and awareness and is best represented by the animals tortoise, mussel, crab, turtle, and snail. It is said to represent knots as well as the human life from birth to death. The goddess associated with the hexagram delayed her own journey into enlightenment so she could help others and it is said that she will not enter Nirvana until all sentient beings have entered before her.

Slugs/snails in real life

Slugs and snails in the real world have many properties that I’d also like to mention before we get to extrapolating the data and theorizing just what exactly Tsunade has in store. For starters, one of their most prominent characteristics is their slime. This slime can be used for locomotion even allowing a snail or slug to crawl vertically or over the edge of a blade, defensively as many of the slimes’ secreted are very disgusting to taste or toxic and poison the predator, for water retention, for mating purposes, as well as for nutritional use as many slugs eat their own slime or the slime of their mating partner.

They also have the ability to self-amputate and reform lost body parts, something that comes in handy when fighting off a predator you just can’t win against. Slugs are hermaphrodites but cannot mate with themselves. All mollusks have a fleshy mantle that some can calcify and turn into shells. Most use a muscular foot to crawl around with this foot contracting and expanding to produce motion. Some gastropods (cone shells) have miniature harpoons that they can use to inject their prey with powerful toxins and some of these toxins can cause serious harm to an adult human. Many land snails can lift ten times their own weight up a vertical surface. Slugs can also register any disturbance in the Earth’s magnetic field around them. Slugs grow teeth like sharks, in a file-in sort of fashion and when a few teeth fall out, new teeth are rotated in.

Now one really cool fact I found is that slugs and snails have copper running through their blood similar to how mammals have iron in theirs. Copper differs from iron in two main aspects, Firstly; iron is heavily magnetic while cooper is only diamagnetic. Secondly, copper is an excellent conductor of electricity while iron isn’t. This makes slugs closer to conductors than magnets (and human the exact opposite).

Finally, there is the so-called “love dart.” This gastropod phenomenon draws its name from the fact it is commonly seen in mating rituals between slugs. This dart can be shot into a stubborn mate and administers a powerful aphrodisiac. The love dart is strikingly similar to how Cupid works, literally shooting fellow members of its species with love. Or both slugs exchange darts as a sort of gift to the other. These darts are seen to be quite large in proportion to the gastropod in question and seem to differ in shape and size from species to species.

What that means for Tsunade

Now the moment we’ve all been waiting for and the very reason set out to right this essay in the first place: how does all this relate to Tsunade? For starters, I’d like to point out how both of her students have shown great poison power. It’d follow that Tsunade herself would be able to create and counteract powerful poison, perhaps even on the fly via ninjutsu. This is further corroborated by the love dart and harpoon structures seen in gastropods across the world and the similarity that bears to Shizune shooting poison needles from her mouth. Perhaps in “slug mode” this could be one of her core attacks or she might even be able to replicate this in base.

Then there’s the fact that copper runs in slugs’ blood. As I mentioned, copper is highly conductive. Given her Body Pathway Derangement technique, there’s strong evidence both in nature and in the manga for lightning element manipulation. This might take the form of a nintaijutsu much like her Body Pathway Derangement technique. You could further draw a parallel between her and her pupils, and see that the other two have shown a high level elemental techniques and that it wouldn’t be far off for her to have a few of her own. This would also make sense in the grand scheme of things as Oro has shown wind, Tsunade would have lightning and Jiraiya would have fire and earth. The three would again fall into a slug>snake>toad>slug relationship as wind>lightning>earth. The fire throws a wrench in the mix. Remember, though, this is simply a theory based off of logical parallels and conclusions.

It may be more likely that, given her affinity to slugs, she has mastered the water element. We’ve seen to some extent that elemental affinity is genetic two prime examples being recombinant kekkei genkai and the Uchiha clan with the later example solidifying the point that a single elemental affinity may be passed down via genetics. We’ve seen both her grandfather and her granduncle utilize either a high level water technique or a high level recombinant kekkei genkai that uses water as one of its component. Further still, slugs have many uses for the slimes they secrete and most species of gastropod are marine life. Her slug itself seems to have a water-eske technique in its acid attack. From all of this, it seems overwhelming likely that Tsunade has proficiency if not mastery in the water element.

Slug’s very anatomies lead to some interesting conclusion about what slug mode may give her the ability to do. She may have some sort of clone technique. I say this because Creation Rebirth is said to restore any damage or lost limbs and slugs have to ability to auto-amputate parts of their body to escape an attack. The combined may lead to a sort of asexual reproduction, or perhaps just a showing of a really high-level medical ninjutsu where Tsunade grows back arms and legs.

Then there’s the possibility of a shell. Just like Sasuke shed his skin and transformed from snake to hawk, so too, Tsunade might build a chamber of some sort to transform from slug to snail. This shell may not come in the form of a giant spiral on her back, but may be malleable and provide a solid defensive technique.

This brings me to the similarities between her and characters from myths, legends, stories, and religions. Sazae-Oni seems to resemble a theoretical slug-mode Tsunade highly, being a beautiful woman that transforms into a giant mollusk. This giant also barters for goods (using stolen ones as leverage) and Tsunade is shown to be quite fond of money and gambling.

Nu Gua, the Snail Woman, or the Holy Snail is also another character of note. Her appearance is described and resembles a description of the alleged slug mode. She also has an affinity to water with her rainbows, further strengthening the idea that Tsuande might have a water affinity and further corroborating the connection between her and this goddess.

Li, the trigram, and hexagram 30 also greatly come into play in describing character traits that could be expected from Tsunade or personality quirks she has already shown. For example, the hexagram represent knots and the mesh of a net while Tsunade’s name means “mooring rope.” The brilliance of the fire found here is also of note, as one of Tsunade’s greatest titles is that of Hokage and she is the inheritor of her Grandfather’s Will of Fire. The symbol also represent life and death, something of which Tsunade is a master of with both her combat abilities and medical prowess. It seems then, that she is the pinnacle representation of this hexagram, constantly giving her all to others before herself to keep the fire of her village lit.

But the most important part about both Nu Gua and hexagram 30 is that, while they are associated with snails, they are also associated with turtles. This lends further evidence to some form of shell ability, one that will perhaps rival the power of a shell that could prop up the sky. I think with both of those facts in tow, Tsunade may be on a tract to grow into a shell of some sort.

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[Warrex]

so, oro imperfect sage mode = jiraiya imperfect sage mode?

can you show pic of oro imperfect sage mode?

Actually, Kabuto said Oro's was imperfect.

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And back to OT... Right now you can't say she does or she doesn't have SM because there is no proof of either one. But i do hope she does.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Why does it have to be a healing process? Look, someone already explained it a bit more nicer than me, with facts and even nicer way to say it since English is not my first language.
Just let me search it and I will get back with a reply.



I am going to assume that since Kabuto said that he was imperfect Sage mode and Oro specifically said he was taking back his senjutsu chakra, I'm going with that Hydra thing.

Because that is what the slugs represented there is no other application of slugs that could be relevant.Other then the regenerating abilities slugs are slimy and thats about it no more significance unless you truly believe a slug sage mode exist purely for the ability to split into more tsunades and there is already a justu for that its called shadow clone

 

[Chatte]

Because that is what the slugs represented there is no other application of slugs that could be relevant.Other then the regenerating abilities slugs are slimy and thats about it no more significance unless you truly believe a slug sage mode exist purely for the ability to split into more tsunades and there is already a justu for that its called shadow clone

Read what I posted up there.

 

[Warrex]

Here's the article I was talking to you about. It's better explained than I could ever do it.

Tsunade’s fellow pupils Jiraiya and Orochimaru as well as her sensei Sarutobi have shown some affinity to an animal, the animals in question being toads/frogs, snakes, and monkeys. The former two take their affinities for their summons so far that they have “modes” where they take on qualities of a particular creature to enhance their battle prowess [

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In fact, we’ve never seen a Sannin fight without some form of their summon showing up. Because of this, many have theorized (myself included) that Tsunade has her own transformation, related to slugs, that bolsters her abilities. With this parallel drawn, we have can safely assume slug mode to exist (at least for the purposes of this essay) and draw from other facts to deduce what capabilities such a form would give Tsunade.

What she, as well as her summon and pupils, have shown

I’ll start with what herself, he summon and her pupils have shown to get an idea of the nature of the abilities she has/might posses. Most notable of these are her healing abilities which are generally recognized as the greatest in the world. [Tsunade healing, Shizune healing, Sakura healing, Tsunade healing an entire village] Of particular note is her [Creation Rebirth] technique, which grants her temporary “immortality,” if you will, while active.

Her medical prowess is also seen in her ability to easily counteract poison by removing it from the blood directly. [Sakura cures Kankuro] Her two students, in addition to her, have also shown poison feats [Tsunade drugs Jiraiya, Shizune’s poison needles, Shizune’s poison gas, Sakura’s sleeping bomb, Sakura’s poisoned kunai] In all cases, the poison/drug being used if noted to be especially potent.

She has also shown the ability to use her medical knowledge offensively the most extraordinary example of this being her [Body Pathway Derangement]. This technique also suggests lightning nature manipulation given how it functions. Further still, we have evidence that Tsunade has a technique derived from medical knowledge that is an alleged [OHKO].

All of this doesn’t to delve into her physical prowess, which makes her arguably the strongest human in the manga. [Her knock-out finger flick, her single finger fissure, her wrecking a stone wall, her lifting a massive tanto, her drop kick]. She does this by utilizing excellent chakra control, releasing high bursts of power in an instant.

And this doesn’t even touch what her summon has shown to do. Her summon, Katsuyu. as linked in an earlier scan of her healing the village, has been shown to be able to connect with Tsunade to allow the transmission of the princess’s chakra through the slug. The slug has also been shown to be able to [envelope people] and tank massive amounts of damage. The ability to cover multiple people is derived from Katsuyu’s [ability to split] into what seems to be an indefinite number of smaller slugs. Another derived ability from this, is Katsuyu’s ability to [relay information] across large distances as each miniature slug shares the knowledge of all its other counterparts. Katsuyu has also [shown great mobility] (given the fact it is a gastropod) as well has its devastating [Tongue Tooth Sticky Acid] technique.

These are all things we can consider as Tsunade’s feats, though some of them are inferred as being hers through one degree of separation (i.e. techniques she obviously taught her students). I’d like to use these feats as a jumping point into what she might show, extrapolating from the themes she uses in her unique fighting style. Before I do this however, I will first discuss some slug lore from both mythology and hard scientific fact, to further strengthen the parallels I plan to draw and the conclusions I make about her potential powers.

Slugs/snails and the princess in mythology

Before I start this section, I would like to say that my research here was a little limited as I am not fluent in Japanese. That said, if you have anything to add or correct, I’d gladly appreciate the help!

The character Tsunade herself is strongly based off of the famous Japanese novel The Tales of the Gallant Jiraiya. She, as well as her fellow pupils, has a namesake in the novel (random note: Her name itself means mooring rope, which, given her affinity to slugs, a mostly sea-based animal, as well as her titanic strength, is quite fitting). In the novel, the three have mastered three kinds of animal magic: toad magic, which lets the user turn into a toad, snake magic which lets them turn into a snake and slug magic which, as you might guess lets them turn into a slug. Kishimoto has shown the toad and snake magics with Jiraiya and Orochimaru leading us to further believe, that if he is staying true to the story, Tsunade should also have some powerful form of slug magic.

Another story of note is the Sazae-Oni, a legendary monster in myth. It is said to take on the form of a woman pretending to be drowning before it turns into a massive snail/crustacean thingy. If you attempted to mate with her, she’d castrate you and you’d have to barter to get what you’d lost back. The most interesting part here is that it is a giant snail that takes the form of a woman.

This then brings me further into the mythological significance of the snail/slug. Nu Gua is a Chinese deity, credited with creating the first humans in two sets; a beautiful set made to rule and an ugly set made to work. She is also credited with creating the caste system as well as *** and marriage, all things that made her beautiful people happy. Two other jealous God’s got made at her and her people making and rent a massive hole in the sky causing a great flood that would wipe out her people. She took colored stones, using them to repair the hole, and in doing so created the first rainbow. She was also said to use turtle shells as a means to prop heaven up permanently to prevent such a disaster again. Her physical appearance where I drew most of my interest, being described as snake-like and also being called the Snail Woman or Holy Snail.

Greater fascination with gastropods can be found further in Japanese culture and the stories it has concerning the sea cucumber. It is said that in the beginning, the gods asked the sea cucumber whether or not it would obey. Its silence and lack of mouth now represent the answer it gave then. Its sluggishness and passivity can be seen as the characteristic of non-action that is so firmly rooted in Taoist belief.

To conclude this section, I’d like to talk about the Fire trigram, and its hexagram counterpart, Hexagram No.30. This trigram is said to represent the middle daughter, and the hexagram represents light, great clarity, meshes of a net, rope, and the sun moving across the sky. It is a symbol of great understanding and awareness and is best represented by the animals tortoise, mussel, crab, turtle, and snail. It is said to represent knots as well as the human life from birth to death. The goddess associated with the hexagram delayed her own journey into enlightenment so she could help others and it is said that she will not enter Nirvana until all sentient beings have entered before her.

Slugs/snails in real life

Slugs and snails in the real world have many properties that I’d also like to mention before we get to extrapolating the data and theorizing just what exactly Tsunade has in store. For starters, one of their most prominent characteristics is their slime. This slime can be used for locomotion even allowing a snail or slug to crawl vertically or over the edge of a blade, defensively as many of the slimes’ secreted are very disgusting to taste or toxic and poison the predator, for water retention, for mating purposes, as well as for nutritional use as many slugs eat their own slime or the slime of their mating partner.

They also have the ability to self-amputate and reform lost body parts, something that comes in handy when fighting off a predator you just can’t win against. Slugs are hermaphrodites but cannot mate with themselves. All mollusks have a fleshy mantle that some can calcify and turn into shells. Most use a muscular foot to crawl around with this foot contracting and expanding to produce motion. Some gastropods (cone shells) have miniature harpoons that they can use to inject their prey with powerful toxins and some of these toxins can cause serious harm to an adult human. Many land snails can lift ten times their own weight up a vertical surface. Slugs can also register any disturbance in the Earth’s magnetic field around them. Slugs grow teeth like sharks, in a file-in sort of fashion and when a few teeth fall out, new teeth are rotated in.

Now one really cool fact I found is that slugs and snails have copper running through their blood similar to how mammals have iron in theirs. Copper differs from iron in two main aspects, Firstly; iron is heavily magnetic while cooper is only diamagnetic. Secondly, copper is an excellent conductor of electricity while iron isn’t. This makes slugs closer to conductors than magnets (and human the exact opposite).

Finally, there is the so-called “love dart.” This gastropod phenomenon draws its name from the fact it is commonly seen in mating rituals between slugs. This dart can be shot into a stubborn mate and administers a powerful aphrodisiac. The love dart is strikingly similar to how Cupid works, literally shooting fellow members of its species with love. Or both slugs exchange darts as a sort of gift to the other. These darts are seen to be quite large in proportion to the gastropod in question and seem to differ in shape and size from species to species.

What that means for Tsunade

Now the moment we’ve all been waiting for and the very reason set out to right this essay in the first place: how does all this relate to Tsunade? For starters, I’d like to point out how both of her students have shown great poison power. It’d follow that Tsunade herself would be able to create and counteract powerful poison, perhaps even on the fly via ninjutsu. This is further corroborated by the love dart and harpoon structures seen in gastropods across the world and the similarity that bears to Shizune shooting poison needles from her mouth. Perhaps in “slug mode” this could be one of her core attacks or she might even be able to replicate this in base.

Then there’s the fact that copper runs in slugs’ blood. As I mentioned, copper is highly conductive. Given her Body Pathway Derangement technique, there’s strong evidence both in nature and in the manga for lightning element manipulation. This might take the form of a nintaijutsu much like her Body Pathway Derangement technique. You could further draw a parallel between her and her pupils, and see that the other two have shown a high level elemental techniques and that it wouldn’t be far off for her to have a few of her own. This would also make sense in the grand scheme of things as Oro has shown wind, Tsunade would have lightning and Jiraiya would have fire and earth. The three would again fall into a slug>snake>toad>slug relationship as wind>lightning>earth. The fire throws a wrench in the mix. Remember, though, this is simply a theory based off of logical parallels and conclusions.

It may be more likely that, given her affinity to slugs, she has mastered the water element. We’ve seen to some extent that elemental affinity is genetic two prime examples being recombinant kekkei genkai and the Uchiha clan with the later example solidifying the point that a single elemental affinity may be passed down via genetics. We’ve seen both her grandfather and her granduncle utilize either a high level water technique or a high level recombinant kekkei genkai that uses water as one of its component. Further still, slugs have many uses for the slimes they secrete and most species of gastropod are marine life. Her slug itself seems to have a water-eske technique in its acid attack. From all of this, it seems overwhelming likely that Tsunade has proficiency if not mastery in the water element.

Slug’s very anatomies lead to some interesting conclusion about what slug mode may give her the ability to do. She may have some sort of clone technique. I say this because Creation Rebirth is said to restore any damage or lost limbs and slugs have to ability to auto-amputate parts of their body to escape an attack. The combined may lead to a sort of asexual reproduction, or perhaps just a showing of a really high-level medical ninjutsu where Tsunade grows back arms and legs.

Then there’s the possibility of a shell. Just like Sasuke shed his skin and transformed from snake to hawk, so too, Tsunade might build a chamber of some sort to transform from slug to snail. This shell may not come in the form of a giant spiral on her back, but may be malleable and provide a solid defensive technique.

This brings me to the similarities between her and characters from myths, legends, stories, and religions. Sazae-Oni seems to resemble a theoretical slug-mode Tsunade highly, being a beautiful woman that transforms into a giant mollusk. This giant also barters for goods (using stolen ones as leverage) and Tsunade is shown to be quite fond of money and gambling.

Nu Gua, the Snail Woman, or the Holy Snail is also another character of note. Her appearance is described and resembles a description of the alleged slug mode. She also has an affinity to water with her rainbows, further strengthening the idea that Tsuande might have a water affinity and further corroborating the connection between her and this goddess.

Li, the trigram, and hexagram 30 also greatly come into play in describing character traits that could be expected from Tsunade or personality quirks she has already shown. For example, the hexagram represent knots and the mesh of a net while Tsunade’s name means “mooring rope.” The brilliance of the fire found here is also of note, as one of Tsunade’s greatest titles is that of Hokage and she is the inheritor of her Grandfather’s Will of Fire. The symbol also represent life and death, something of which Tsunade is a master of with both her combat abilities and medical prowess. It seems then, that she is the pinnacle representation of this hexagram, constantly giving her all to others before herself to keep the fire of her village lit.

But the most important part about both Nu Gua and hexagram 30 is that, while they are associated with snails, they are also associated with turtles. This lends further evidence to some form of shell ability, one that will perhaps rival the power of a shell that could prop up the sky. I think with both of those facts in tow, Tsunade may be on a tract to grow into a shell of some sort.

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So if what you're saying is true... then there is still a chance Tsunade and the Kages might come out of this alive. She could regenerate her lower body, and heal the kages... in theory

 

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I already know that her appearence and traits are based of the tale of the gallant jiraiya that is the template of her character that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

Its sluggishness and passivity can be seen as the characteristic of non-action that is so firmly rooted in Taoist belief. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is reflected in the procrastination of her everyday duties as kage liek filling out papter work but opting to go drink and gamble instead.Once again this has nothing to do with the topic at hand which is a reason or evidence for sage mode.

Slugs and snails in the real world have many properties that I’d also like to mention before we get to extrapolating the data and theorizing just what exactly Tsunade has in store. For starters, one of their most prominent characteristics is their slime. This slime can be used for locomotion even allowing a snail or slug to crawl vertically or over the edge of a blade, defensively as many of the slimes’ secreted are very disgusting to taste or toxic and poison the predator, for water retention, for mating purposes, as well as for nutritional use as many slugs eat their own slime or the slime of their mating partner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this aslo has nothing to do with providing evidence for a slug sage mode as it is litterally just regurgetated
info on slugs behavior for breeding and staying alive once again has nothing to do with the topic at hand.



They also have the ability to self-amputate and reform lost body parts, something that comes in handy when fighting off a predator you just can’t win against>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. This is the very thing i pointed out to you on several occasions that is covered by the strgnth of a hundred men justu /:



Now one really cool fact I found is that slugs and snails have copper running through their blood similar to how mammals have iron in theirs. Copper differs from iron in two main aspects, Firstly; iron is heavily magnetic while cooper is only diamagnetic. Secondly, copper is an excellent conductor of electricity while iron isn’t. This makes slugs closer to conductors than magnets (and human the exact opposite).>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this also has does not contribute to provide evidence for a slug sage mode and if anything is a referecnce to tsudnades ability she displayed earlier in the series when she struck kabto with the justu that sent his nervous system of the spritz aided by the lightning element.


Finally, there is the so-called “love dart.” This gastropod phenomenon draws its name from the fact it is commonly seen in mating rituals between slugs. This dart can be shot into a stubborn mate and administers a powerful aphrodisiac. The love dart is strikingly similar to how Cupid works, literally shooting fellow members of its species with love. Or both slugs exchange darts as a sort of gift to the other. These darts are seen to be quite large in proportion to the gastropod in question and seem to differ in shape and size from species to species. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an obvious reference to her beauty and ability to attract men

This thread was most likely made before the events of the chapter that had her use strength of a hundred men and in the end none of this is evidence for a slug sage mode and that is not my opnion.I mean this thread really doesnt provide evidence it covered the basis of her character template mixed in with some quips from a nature documentry

you need to provide facts that relate to the topic and point you are trying to make not just random facts about slugs in general