How Itachi lands a potentially fatal blow on Obito

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I am terrible at organizing threads, so please bare with me.

This is addressing everybody who says Sharingan Obito > Itachi, because Itachi can't land a hit.
I believe there is in fact a way for Itachi to hit Obito.


We all know with Minatos incredible speed, he waited until the moment Obito became tangible and was able to land a rasengan.
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Itachi has the capability of doing the very same, but with susanoo.​


Itachi activated his susanoo fast enough to shield himself against kirin.
Kirin is a technique used by Sasuke, which manipulates Lightning itself. A technique said to be unavoidable, because it reaches the ground within a thousandth of a second.
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This is how i know Itachi has the ability to hit Obito with the same split second speed as Minato. This is proof Itachi can activate his susanoo within a thousanth of a second. Please keep in mind, it takes Obito around 3 seconds to warp someone. Now imagine how much faster 1/1000th of a second is apposed to 3 whole seconds.
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This is all to prove how fast Itachi can activate his susanoo.

Now, how Itachi lands a hit on Obito. I am using the very same scenario of how Minato rasenganed Obito.

This is key. Obito needs to be tangible, near Itachi, and around 3 seconds to warp him.

Now here is how Itachi lands a hit.
Obito becomes tangible and proceeds to warp Itachi. Within a split instant, Itachi will activate susanoo and hammer punch Obito into the ground much like Minato did.
There is no way Obito has the reaction speed to become intangible or activate Izanigi because he would of done so in his fight with Minato and avoided his rasengan.

I am aware that this will most likely not kill Obito, but will in fact injure him, badly. Resulting in him retreating.​

Everything previously listed are backed up with Manga facts. So here is a WHAT IF

What if Itachi is able to activate his full susanoo instantly without having to go through the process of, rib cage susanoo and eventually developing into his full form.
He can just activate it instantly with Totsuka blade piercing through Obito when he tries to warp Itachi and becomes tangible. Ultimately defeating Obito.

Ofcourse there is no proven fact that this is possible, nor is there anything disproving it, but is just a thought. :rolleyes:
 

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it doesnt really matter .... in a fight between ninjas not every fight is a 100% .... unless there is a massive margin and even then things happen such as naruto and sasuke outsmarting zabuza...... my point is even if obito won the first 3 fights there is always that possibility that itachi will win the next one ...

but anyways nice thread :)
 

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it doesnt really matter .... in a fight between ninjas not every fight is a 100% .... unless there is a massive margin and even then things happen such as naruto and sasuke outsmarting zabuza...... my point is even if obito won the first 3 fights there is always that possibility that itachi will win the next one ...

but anyways nice thread :)

This is true. All i am trying to say is it isn't completely impossible for Itachi to hit Obito.

And thank you sir, very much appreciated.
 
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let itachi hit obito or not.. there's another reason why obito wins

he counter all itachi's attack
 

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like hell he will, he coouldn't even face him one on one and waited when he was off guard to transplant his amaterasu to sasuke just to kill obito...itachi was and will forever be afraid and weaker than obito.
 

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let itachi hit obito or not.. there's another reason why obito wins

he counter all itachi's attack

Mind telling me the other way Obito wins? I'm curious.

like hell he will, he coouldn't even face him one on one and waited when he was off guard to transplant his amaterasu to sasuke just to kill obito...itachi was and will forever be afraid and weaker than obito.

Dumb comments such as this, will be ignored from this point on. So don't bother.
 

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ok how he gonna counter tsynomi . he has only one shorigan..obito knew who itachi was loyal to but yet he still didnt take him down.why u might say because of an agreement they made .which was stated in the manga.but i say because tobi knew he couldnt win just like when he fought the forth. he left and waited for his momment and know hes doing the same thing since itachi dead
 

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by just looking at obito itachi has landed on the fatal blow
 

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It's feasible. Itachis analytical skills such as is grasp is on a very high level, he wouldn't let himself being absorbed by Tobi so easily. He would be able to react on his moves and prevent Tobi from actually touching him. On the other hand I don't think that Susanoo would be fast enough to hit Tobi, he will always be able to go intangible before being hit by Itachi, since this transformation happens in an instant. An example is the fight against Gai, Kakashi, Bee and Naruto. He fought them all, land hits and went intangible in a blink, when the danger was there.
 

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Mind telling me the other way Obito wins? I'm curious.



Dumb comments such as this, will be ignored from this point on. So don't bother.

No, stop hating.

Anyone could win here, Warping someone does not kill them.

there's 2 things you ppl should realize in versus threads

1) facts > opinion > fanboyism

2) a-b-c logic doesnt count.. its all about matchup
 

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It's feasible. Itachis analytical skills such as is grasp is on a very high level, he wouldn't let himself being absorbed by Tobi so easily. He would be able to react on his moves and prevent Tobi from actually touching him. On the other hand I don't think that Susanoo would be fast enough to hit Tobi, he will always be able to go intangible before being hit by Itachi, since this transformation happens in an instant. An example is the fight against Gai, Kakashi, Bee and Naruto. He fought them all, land hits and went intangible in a blink, when the danger was there.

So susanoo being able to be activated faster then the speed of sound, faster then Minato, will not be able to land a punch on Obito?

Put that speed into consideration, and go through the motion in your head. Itachi activated susanoo and it hammers Obito into the ground...all within a second tops. This is as fast as, or even faster then Minatos attack.

there's 2 things you ppl should realize in versus threads

1) facts > opinion > fanboyism

2) a-b-c logic doesnt count.. its all about matchup

Okay and i stated how Itachi is able to land a hit, with facts to back it up. So whats your point?

I'm also still waiting on your other reason how Obito defeats Itachi.
 

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Obito is much more skilled now than he was by the time he fought Minato. Just look how fast he swaps between tangible and intangible in his current fight, he got some speed reaction in the last 16 years.
Itachi's best bet in a fight against Obito would be tricking him with Genjutsu, not Susanoo.
 

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Obito is much more skilled now than he was by the time he fought Minato. Just look how fast he swaps between tangible and intangible in his current fight, he got some speed reaction in the last 16 years.
Itachi's best bet in a fight against Obito would be tricking him with Genjutsu, not Susanoo.

You're underestimating how fast this is. You can blink your eye, and Susanoo will already be activated before your eyes open.

And i don't think Genjutsu will have much effect on Obito, tbh.
 

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Actually he doesn't..........because he's dead! Did you know this?
 

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You're underestimating how fast this is. You can blink your eye, and Susanoo will already be activated before your eyes open.

And i don't think Genjutsu will have much effect on Obito, tbh.

Materialize Susanoo in a split second is one thing, use it to punch Obito is another completely different matter. I don't think something that huge would move fast enough to hit Obito.
Itachi can activate the technique fast enough to protect himself, that's right! But the chakra monster itself has never shown to be fast moving.
 

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Materialize Susanoo in a split second is one thing, use it to punch Obito is another completely different matter. I don't think something that huge would move fast enough to hit Obito.
Itachi can activate the technique fast enough to protect himself, that's right! But the chakra monster itself has never shown to be fast moving.

Take Sasukes susanoo for example, and how fast it grabbed and punched Danzou. It wasn't an instant fast, but nonetheless it was fast.

Now if Itachis susanoo activates in 1/1000th of a second, with his arms already hovering over Obito has it appears, how much longer do you think it will take to just hammer Obito into the ground? Think about it. That is on the same level of speed as Minatos attack.
 

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Take Sasukes susanoo for example, and how fast it grabbed and punched Danzou. It wasn't an instant fast, but nonetheless it was fast.

Now if Itachis susanoo activates in 1/1000th of a second, with his arms already hovering over Obito has it appears, how much longer do you think it will take to just hammer Obito into the ground? Think about it. That is on the same level of speed as Minatos attack.

no its not! Where are you getting this bullshit from? Do you even read the manga??? Let me teach you some facts since you clearly do not know any!
1. Susanoo isnt fast, fact!
2. Susanoo is a last resort since it hurts, cost wayyy too much chakra, and itachi knows his limits
3. Nobody knows when tobi is in "ghost mode", there isnt a way to know if he's in it or not. Otherwise minato/kakashi/guy/KM naruto would of land a hit when they could at first (minato later had to do ftg 2, kakashi used kamui.. Both s/t techs that itacbi does not have)
4. Tobi knows everything about itachi, everything about the sharingan and he would know how to counter everything itachi uses before he uses them
5. Tobi is smarter then itachi
6. Tobi has more chakra, stamina, durability etc etc
7. Tobi also is of uchiha blood, so according to itachi himself, tobi can break tsukuyomi. But that doesnt even matter since tobi could fight with out direct contact!
8. Amateratsu has been proven useless by tobi already
9. Tobi has many other jutsus to use on itachi


Nothing of what itachi has shown could defeat tobi, its a fact of the manga. I hate when noobs make threads with no manga proof backing up anything. And are clearly biased! Please i beg you reread the entire manga! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Take Sasukes susanoo for example, and how fast it grabbed and punched Danzou. It wasn't an instant fast, but nonetheless it was fast.

Now if Itachis susanoo activates in 1/1000th of a second, with his arms already hovering over Obito has it appears, how much longer do you think it will take to just hammer Obito into the ground? Think about it. That is on the same level of speed as Minatos attack.
I think Obito has the reaction speed to prevent it. By the way you are comparing Obito's speed to an elder that attacks with an open guard because he can spam Izanagi. Obito can keep up with BM Naruto, so I think he can keep up with Itachi.
 

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I think Obito has the reaction speed to prevent it. By the way you are comparing Obito's speed to an elder that attacks with an open guard because he can spam Izanagi. Obito can keep up with BM Naruto, so I think he can keep up with Itachi.

He also forgot that Obito countered A coming at him with full speed aswell! (at the kage summit) Ofc obito will be fast for anything itachi tries to do. Itachi isnt fast nor ahas a faster move then Amateratsu, which tobi already countered
 

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lets be real here... tobi has no way of countering susanoo :) he can't warp the whole thing and he can't outsmart itachi ... no fanboyism just pure reality:)
 
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