obito versus itachi

[Forbidden Technique]

Tobi can't touch him through Susanoo so he will be repelled before Full Susanoo comes out thus your scenario doesn't work.

Kid. Please pay close attention to what i am saying. My whole scenario is during the act of Itachi being warped by Obito. Wtf does not being able to touch Itachi through susanoo have anything to do with it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kid. Please pay close attention to what i am saying. My whole scenario is during the act of Itachi being warped by Obito. Wtf does not being able to touch Itachi through susanoo have anything to do with it.

Getting agitated there huh?

YOU said that he will warp Itachi, then Itachi activates Susanoo.

He can't activate Full Susanoo in 1/1000th second, that was Incomplete Susanoo that's why the Incomplete one is what we see when Itachi gets up.

Since he can't activate it that fast YOU said that he can activate Full Susanoo in 3 seconds and stab Tobi with Totsuka.

The moment the Susanoo starts forming the warp will be canceled because Tobi can't hold him through Susanoo.
He has to be HOLDING or TOUCHING someone to warp them.

Get it now? Cause it's pretty annoying explaining this to you.

 

[akatsuk1]

I personally feel like it would be close. yes obito can avoid virtually any attack, but im sure with Itachi's brains he would be able to figure out a way to land a hit. altough, itachi is almost completely blind from his mangekyo. if it was edo-itachi then i would have to say itachi. but otherwise, obito

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Even if he stops him from warping him then...how will he defeat him?

You said that it should take Itachi 3 seconds but you said previously that Tobi warped Danzo's goons in 2-3 seconds, so Itachi would be sucked in before Full Susanoo ever comes out so he will have to opt for manifesting the Incomplete Susanoo, but if he doesn't that he can't hurt Tobi.

Getting agitated there huh?

YOU said that he will warp Itachi, then Itachi activates Susanoo.

He can't activate Full Susanoo in 1/1000th second, that was Incomplete Susanoo that's why the Incomplete one is what we see when Itachi gets up.

Since he can't activate it that fast YOU said that he can activate Full Susanoo in 3 seconds and stab Tobi with Totsuka.

The moment the Susanoo starts forming the warp will be canceled because Tobi can't hold him through Susanoo.
He has to be HOLDING or TOUCHING someone to warp them.

Get it now? Cause it's pretty annoying explaining this to you.

Nice contradiction. First you said if Itachi doesn't activate full susanoo he will be sucked in. And now, the warp will be canceled if susanoo starts forming.
Even so, proof the warp gets cancelled the moment itachi activates susanoo, please?

And you wonder if im getting agitated?

 

[KidGamer65]

Nice contradiction. First you said if Itachi doesn't activate full susanoo he will be sucked in. And now, the warp will be canceled if susanoo starts forming.
Even so, proof the warp gets cancelled the moment itachi activates susanoo, please?

And you wonder if im getting agitated?

And I gave you proof: Tobi needs to grab someone to warp them..if he can't grasp them he can't warp them, simple as that.

He can't grasp Itachi through Susanoo thus he can't warp him.

"wtf" "kid" Yes I think you are getting agitated.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

And I gave you proof: Tobi needs to grab someone to warp them..if he can't grasp them he can't warp them, simple as that.

He can't grasp Itachi through Susanoo thus he can't warp him.

"wtf" "kid" Yes I think you are getting agitated.

Obito had absolutely no contact with Danzous body guard with the orange hair before warping him.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito had absolutely no contact with Danzous body guard with the orange hair before warping him.

It's hard to see it but he did.

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If you look on the left then you can see Tobi's sleeve of the arm that just fell off, but if you look at the right you can't see that sleeve or his other arm...it's because he grabbed him to absorb him.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

It's hard to see it but he did.

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If you look on the left then you can see Tobi's sleeve of the arm that just fell off, but if you look at the right you can't see that sleeve or his other arm...it's because he grabbed him to absorb him.

That is way to unclear. Watch the anime as i just did, you will see that he didn't touch him.

 

[KidGamer65]

That is way to unclear. Watch the anime as i just did, you will see that he didn't touch him.

Manga is more reliable than the Anime. Anime makes mistakes.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Manga is more reliable than the Anime. Anime makes mistakes.

The Anime shows the exact same thing depicted in the Manga. His arm is hanging straight down, not touching Torune. You can't see because Torunes body is in the way.

 

[KidGamer65]

The Anime shows the exact same thing depicted in the Manga. His arm is hanging straight down, not touching Torune. You can't see because Torunes body is in the way.

I saw it, looks like he did suck him in with no contact....

Nonetheless your scenario is still flawed, even if Itachi manages to get Full Susanoo out before Tobi is done sucking him in he can simply stop absorbing him and then switch to intangible mode, he did the same against Konan when she shot Paper Bombs at him.

And in case your wondering he will have enough time since Totsuka originates from a gourd and the gourd has to be opened to release the blade..giving Obito enough time turn intangible rendering Totsuka useless.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

I saw it, looks like he did suck him in with no contact....

Nonetheless your scenario is still flawed, even if Itachi manages to get Full Susanoo out before Tobi is done sucking him in he can simply stop absorbing him and then switch to intangible mode, he did the same against Konan when she shot Paper Bombs at him.

And in case your wondering he will have enough time since Totsuka originates from a gourd and the gourd has to be opened to release the blade..giving Obito enough time turn intangible rendering Totsuka useless.

Okay you may be right, even though it isn't proved that he can't just activate susanoo with the Totsuka blade ready to use.
Basically its my assumption vs. your assumption, which won't get us anywhere.

So let's go your way, once again. Totsuka is rendered useless, fine. Itachi still has potentially fatal techniques, such as Yasaka Magatamas which are a lot faster then Totsuka blade, and even a mere punch from rib cage susanoo that does massive damage.

 

[KidGamer65]

Okay you may be right, even though it isn't proved that he can't just activate susanoo with the Totsuka blade ready to use.
Basically its my assumption vs. your assumption, which won't get us anywhere.

So let's go your way, once again. Totsuka is rendered useless, fine. Itachi still has potentially fatal techniques, such as Yasaka Magatamas which are a lot faster then Totsuka blade, and even a mere punch from rib cage susanoo that does massive damage.

True those can be fatal...if they could hit...Obito's Kamui allows him to easily phase through those attacks.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

True those can be fatal...if they could hit...Obito's Kamui allows him to easily phase through those attacks.

I'm using the same logic as before. Obito proceeds to warp Itachi, Itachi activates susanoo in an instant, punching tangible Obito within a split second.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm using the same logic as before. Obito proceeds to warp Itachi, Itachi activates susanoo in an instant, punching tangible Obito within a split second.

A punch won't kill him...especially since he survived a Rasengan from Minato....and his body is made up of Zetsu goo.

And he can always use Izanagi.

 

[Namikaze Konohamaru]

The kind of abilities obito has shown in this chapter with hashiramas dna he now rapes itachi.hands down.

But just because he gained the abilities does not mean that he is in control of them. If I remember correctly it was one of the zetsus body that was attached to Obito at the time when he started to show this ability. Meaning that maybe the only reason he was able to control Hashiramas DNA was because the zetsu was the one doing the actual fighting not obito.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

A punch won't kill him...especially since he survived a Rasengan from Minato....and his body is made up of Zetsu goo.

And he can always use Izanagi.

Danzou got punched by susanoo and had to result to Izanagi, so im assuming it is a potential fatal shot.

Remember this is a split second were talking about, there is no reaction time to activate Izanagi, otherwise he would of done the same when fighting Minato.

Plus thats just one scenerio, what about Yasakas Magatams which is gaurenteed death.

 

[KidGamer65]

Danzou got punched by susanoo and had to result to Izanagi, so im assuming it is a potential fatal shot.

Remember this is a split second were talking about, there is no reaction time to activate Izanagi, otherwise he would of done the same when fighting Minato.

Plus thats just one scenerio, what about Yasakas Magatams which is gaurenteed death.

He most likely didn't know it when he fought Minato cause he definitely would have had time to activate it before they clashed.

Tobi's durability is also far greater than Danzo's

Itachi's Susanoo still has to take out the Yasaka's Magatama to fire them , which gives Tobi enough time to use Kamui and then intangible.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

He most likely didn't know it when he fought Minato cause he definitely would have had time to activate it before they clashed.

Tobi's durability is also far greater than Danzo's

Itachi's Susanoo still has to take out the Yasaka's Magatama to fire them , which gives Tobi enough time to use Kamui and then intangible.

Take them out of where? Susanoo doesnt come with a pouch where he holds all his shurikens lmao.

You're making a bunch of assumptions again.

Obito can control the kyuubi and Yagura, but doesn't know Izanagi.

Considering every time Obito has come in contact with something solid, his body becomes disfigured and oozes off. He gets hit with Rasengan, his arm falls off. He punches a solid rock, his arm falls off. He gets hit by Konans explosive paper, his arm falls off again.

I don't see Obito being that much durable then Danzou, or anybody for that matter.

 

[KidGamer65]

Take them out of where? Susanoo doesnt come with a pouch where he holds all his shurikens lmao.

You're making a bunch of assumptions again.

Obito can control the kyuubi and Yagura, but doesn't know Izanagi.

Considering every time Obito has come in contact with something solid, his body becomes disfigured and oozes off. He gets hit with Rasengan, his arm falls off. He punches a solid rock, his arm falls off. He gets hit by Konans explosive paper, his arm falls off again.

I don't see Obito being that much durable then Danzou, or anybody for that matter.

so much fail in one post...

He has to manifest them and then throw them he is not doing that before Tobi can turn intangible no matter what messed up logic you want to use.

He controlled Yagura After he fought Minato and if he had he would have used it simple as that.

If Danzo got hit by a Rasengan of that size he would be dead.

Itach can't hit Tobi and you have given me no reason to believe otherwise..when you have a good argument then maybe I'll change my mind until then Tobi > Itachi.