Madara is not as strong as you think

[Namikaze Haru]

Dnt underestimate madara...If his ems is weaker than sasuke's ems lyk u said,he wouldnt have challenged hashirama and even gained his dna..Only hashi could tell what he saw dat day cos everyday,minute and seconds,i believe madara won dat battle against hashi..Dis guy is a demon..I remember when madara was introduced in the manga as an edo,d manga was titled the power in a name..Tsunade herself said it that even the name uchiha madara is power..isnt dat enof proof dat ems madara is the strongest shinobi alongside hashi?..

u have a point and we don't know sasuke's current power so we can't judge him, but then again how strong was hashirama? like hiruzen everything we know about hashirama is hype. from what i have seen, i can say a full powered healthy nagato can beat both EMS madara and hashirama

 

[Namikaze Haru]

bm naruto gets raped by ems or edo madara

no...just no

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

no...just no

you know it is true

 

[Namikaze Haru]

I'm too lazy to find the pages but, didn't madara tell oonoki that he didn't use the perfect susanoo against him because he was a kid?
And that was when madara had EMS?
Even tsunade was asking how hashirama fought this
Even madara said his battle with hashirama was landscape changing

Research well, susanoo is EMS jutsu that's why nagato can't use it (kakashi can use ems kamui so don't say its bcos nagato is not an uchiha)

nah mate u research, he says what adult would fight against a child or something like that but that was before he release PS, that was when he dropped the meteorites i think. it still does not confirm that EMS can use PS.

if u watch the video clip of madara vs hashirama from Naruto ninja storms generations (although its only a game) the only landscape that changed was the waterfall made by kurama's TBB.

Nagato was given the rinnegan, kakashi was given the sharingan, theres a difference

 

[End of Days]

lol a forum is a place for people to share opinions. and if u have read the manga properly madara stated that he awakened the rinnegan BEFORE his death. meaning he was able to use his current powers after his fight with hashi and before his death

he faded away from people's memory after his battle with shodai meaning everyone thought he died and no one ever saw him again
The origin of the susanoo legend lies during his prime in his lifetime

 

[Namikaze Haru]

Madara used his perfect Susanoo against Hashirama.
He revealed that when he was stomping the 5 kaglets.

So he could use that.
Rinnegan I must agree upon, you probably need senju DNA for it.

But it still does'nt make Madara any less of a threat, his perfect Susanoo is already one of the most powerfull things he has shown us, and he could already use that with EMS alone.

I doubt anyone could beat him even then, except Hashirama who obviously did.

But against EDO madara? Not even naruto BM, tobi, Sasukem Kakashi, Gai and the army combined could'nt probably do as much as scratch him.

yh u say that, of course madara could use susanoo but could he use the PERFECT SUSANOO. susanoo is an EMS justu, i know that however susanoo's strength is based on the user's chakra, was madara's chakra that huge WITHOUT hashi's power, that the question?

 

[Black Flames]

I don't think so.

 

[Namikaze Haru]

+ rep but i don't think that without hashi dna he would be on current sasuke level im pretty sure he'd be higher than that

we can't say that yet til we see sasuke's full power or what he comes back with after returning with orochimaru

 

[ntel]

Hashirama owned EMS Madara+Kyuubi before half of its chakra was taken away.

EMS Madara did have Perfect Susanoo as he used it in past tense and he said he aquired the Rinnegan shortly before his death. Inquiring that he had used PS before he had obtained the Rinnegan.

and yes Madara needed Hashirama's power to become what he is now.

 

[apple pie of doom]

yh u say that, of course madara could use susanoo but could he use the PERFECT SUSANOO. susanoo is an EMS justu, i know that however susanoo's strength is based on the user's chakra, was madara's chakra that huge WITHOUT hashi's power, that the question?

He used PERFECT susanoo on Hashirama as I said earlier.
Madara said so in his fight with the kaglets.
Perfect Susanoo is probably only available to Madara though.

 

[Uchiha Samater]

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[Namikaze Haru]

He used PERFECT susanoo on Hashirama as I said earlier.
Madara said so in his fight with the kaglets.
Perfect Susanoo is probably only available to Madara though.

lol ur not getting it, susanoo's size and strength is based on the User's Chakra Uchiha does not have large chakra however madara with hashirama cells vastly improve his chakra to around to tailed beast levels. rinnegan madara has Massive amounts of chakra.

I ask again, CAN A EMS MADARA WITHOUT HASHIRAMA'S CELLS PRODUCE A SUSANOO THAT BIG?

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

EMS madara, RINNEGAN madara, EVEN A BLIND MADARA IS A MONSTER (just kidding) madara using anything is a BEAST and yes he is as strong as anyone thinks. the kages and every one knew how much of a danger their in when they heard the name UCHIHA MADARA (remember when obito pretended to be him) so they didn't know that they are gona face the edo madara and still thought they are screwed (this should tell madara's statues in the old days), now you must understand that every one you saw so far are nothing compared to the likes of madara and hashirama

also your trying to say that the perfect susanoo madara used as an edo is not as strong as the one he used when he was normal ..... edo means unlimited chakra and regeneration, witch means that he can use his susanoo for a longer period (in this case forever i guess) and it has nothing to do with how strong the susanoo is so .....

 

[Namikaze Haru]

Strongest character tho

with u mean without hashirama's power madara would stil be the strongest?

 

[Prime Rib]

gtfo

 

[SasukeUchiha910]

no...just no

yes he does

 

[Encon Uchiha]

Nice theory... i agree with you. I believe that when Madara injcted Senju DNA into himself is when he acquired the Rinnegan,which is how he found the Gedo Mazu which is how hes lived so long. But your wrong about one thing, Uchiha do have lots of chakra.They were known as having powerful chakra and strong ninjutsu. Thats why Sasuke can spam his Susanoo and Amaterasu.

 

[Evolve81]

Strongest character tho

He is the strongest for now. I cannot believe that someone on here said that Madara before his death wouldn't be a strong as Sauske???? Wow that person is a jock rider.

By the way if that picture is what you look like on your avatar...... You are hella fine..... Well you know beautiful.