obito awakened his MS before kakashi
obito fought minato with MS before kakashi awakened his
i think obito awakened his MS when madara died (madara taught him everything about uchiha, senju and all, maybe obito grew to like him and when he died, KAMUI!!!)
no idea about kakashi though......
what i dont understand is one MS has one power in case of itachi, sasuke - tsukuyomi, amaterasu.
but those of shisui and obito have identical powers i.e. kotoamatsukami (ultimate genjutsu) and kamui in obitos case.
what about madara? he doesnt seem interested in anything other than susano (ems susano, rinnegan susano and complete form.....)
wonder why nagato dint show susano
any thoughts?