The misconscription about hashi DNA

[XMANG55]

With all the current feats we've seen with Hashi DNA this has given alot of his fans a reason to claim G.O.A.T.

This however has been an over-hyped mess of an argument that has lead to some statements that I consider utterly useless without stating the facts completely.

First off lets name the characters with some of the Hashi DNA infused into them.

Edo Madara

Danzo

Zetsu

Obito

Yamato


Now most of these character have been considered very strong and now many people have said "without the power of the Hashi DNA they would be worthless" and "as you can see by there spike in power Hashi must have been the G.O.A.T"Also there have been many directly given HAshi the current feat by Obito saying "Hashi really solo'd the mist ninja"

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since he is where they got the senju DNA from ". I find this to be completely false.

1.) who are the two weakest on the list (hint: yamato and zetsu) and what do they have that connect them and disconnect them form the rest of the list. They are the only one's who have strictly Hashi DNA. These are the only two examples people can pull from when using the "hashi DNA" argument because of current shinobi they are the only one's with strictly Hashi DNA.

There is another piece to the puzzle that must be added to give a person a Godly boost in power.

2.)So what does the top 2 ninja on this list have in common they have what a I call the complete body for they have the DNA of the senju (Hashi) and the Uchiha.

For someone to obtain the Godly power boost that many of you attribute just to hashi DNA you need the other piece to the puzzle which is Uchiha DNA. Which is a sentiment stated by Zetsu.

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Because it in-turn give you what is the closes to having the sages body since both the Senju and Uchiha are both direct of the So6P descendants.

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Also what it shows in the pic above is that we would have never seen a another ninja with powers close to Sage because the only two clans that were capable of combing and producing a ninja like the sage where mortal enemies and would never form a family together.

3.)We see with danzo that if you do not belong to one of the brother and sister clans ( uchiha and senju or senju and uchiha) than hashi DNA becomes a hindrance to the current shinobi.

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All in all I say that you can not use the argument that Hashi DNA makes super strong ninja and there for Hashi is G.O.A.T. because in fact it takes the combing of the body (senju) and the eyes(uchiha) to make this power boost relevant AND accurate. Also i'm saying that it is an incomplete argument to say that only senju DNA is responsible for current feats seen.

Also I can only give Uchiha as examples because we have not seen a pure breaded senju(5th or the 1st,second hokage) infused the eyes of the uchiha. (which if happened I think would also give them a Godly power boost.)

also i am no Uchiha fan boy because Uchiha DNA is also a hindrance to some one not part of the brother sister clan. (i.e. Kakashi drain of chakra)

 

[psukkar]

With all the current feats we've seen with Hashi DNA this as given alot of his fans a reason to claim G.O.A.T.

This however has been an over-hyped mess of an argument that as lead to some statements that I consider useless without stating facts without bias.

First off lets name the characters with some of the Hashi DNA infused into them.

Edo Madara

Danzo

Zetsu

Obito

Yamato


Now most of these character have been considered very strong and now many people have said without the power of the Hashi DNA they would be worthless and "as you can see by there spike in power Hashi must have been the G.O.A.T. since he is where they got the senju DNA from ". I find this to be completely false.

1.) who are the two weakest on the list (hint: yamato and zetsu) and what do they have that connect them and disconnect them form the rest of the list. They are the only one's who have strictly Hashi DNA. These are the only two examples people can pull from when using the "hashi DNA" argument because of current shinobi they are the only one's with strictly Hashi DNA.

There is another piece to the puzzle that must be added to give a person a Godly boost in power.

2.)So what does the top 2 ninja on this list have in common they have what a I call the complete body for they have the DNA of the senju (Hashi) and the Uchiha.

For someone to obtain the Godly power boost that many of you attribute just to hashi DNA you need the other piece to the puzzle which is Uchiha DNA. Which is a sentiment stated by Zetsu.

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Because it in-turn give you what is the closes to having the sages body since both the Senju and Uchiha are both direct of the So6P descendants.

You must be registered for see images

Also what it shows in the pic above is that we would have never seen a another ninja with powers close to Sage because the only two clans that were capable of combing and producing a ninja like the sage where mortal enemies and would never form a family together.

3.)We see with danzo that if you do not belong to one of the brother and sister clans ( uchiha and senju or senju and uchiha) than hashi DNA becomes a hindrance to the current shinobi.

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All in all I say that you can not use the argument that Hashi DNA makes super strong ninja and there for Hashi is G.O.A.T. because in fact it takes the combing of the body (senju) and the eyes(uchiha) to make this power boost relevant AND accurate. Also i'm saying that it is an incomplete argument to say that only senju DNA is responsible for current feats seen.

Also I can only give Uchiha as examples because we have not seen a pure breaded senju(5th or the 1st,second hokage) infused the eyes of the uchiha. (which if happened I think would also give them a Godly power boost.)

also i am no Uchiha fan boy because Uchiha DNA is also a hindrance to some one not part of the brother sister clan. (i.e. Kakashi drain of chakra)

ur arguments are flawed because madara and obitio both have said its hard to control hasihrama's power. meaning very few can use his power to the fulllest.

Danzo is an example of failing at that,

Zetsu, well i dont what he is he isnt a combat type shinobi as obitio said. so why even bring this up. Dispite not being a combat type shinobi zetsu has done ridiclous things on his own.

Yamato hasnt shown his full potenial but he admiited he is nothing to the real thing, remember it was a mircale he even surived in the first place when he got his dna fused with hasihrama.

 

[XMANG55]

ur arguments are flawed because madara and obitio both have said its hard to control hasihrama's power. meaning very few can use his power to the fulllest.

Danzo is an example of failing at that,

Zetsu, well i dont what he is he isnt a combat type shinobi as obitio said. so why even bring this up. Dispite not being a combat type shinobi zetsu has done ridiclous things on his own.

Yamato hasnt shown his full potenial but he admiited he is nothing to the real thing, remember it was a mircale he even surived in the first place when he got his dna fused with hasihrama.

If you gave a senju the full power of the uchiha you don't think similer things would be said? we only have that side stated because there are no senju trying to control the uchiha full power (both eyes) we see what one eye has done to Kakashi drain of chakra imagine what two would do.

Yamato has had plenty of time to show his potential the only problem is he missing the other link.

 

[3MESSIAH]

SENJU DNA is the answer! not the question!

 

[Punk Hazard]

I agree. Hashi is.still really strong though.

 

[Chatte]

Still Hashirama's DNA is the power boost to the Uchiha one.
Dunno, Kishi sometimes is contradicting his own words and this whole new thing with Obito is just starting to get too far-fetched.

 

[supino]

i am not sure, maybe you are right but it has been stated that not everybody can control or is compatible with Hashirama's DNA explaining both Danzo's difficulty with controlling mokuton (not that he was spectacular with the sharingan either.... as a sidenote: he would have probably had better chances fighting without the sharingans and mokuton) as well as Yamato, the sole survivor of Orochimaru's failed experiments.

so, in that way of seeing things: Yamato is weak-er because he was the survivor of those experiments. when all the rest have died, him surviving is a success. how good was with mokuton in the large scheme of things has not been a factor. and Danzo has been shown and explained by Obito that he couldn't control mokuton very well.

Zetsu is not front-line fighter and he never acted as such, he has used his abilities and done some incredible things as a spy. i wouldn't call him weak because he is not a clear cut fighter.

so, to sum things up: Yamato's survival and Danzo's inability to control mokuton serve as an example of how difficult is to control mokuton and use it at its maximum. which adds hype to mokuton. Zetsu might as well be the most successful spy of the series, another proof of how incredible mokuton is. and all the rest were super-warriors and with mokuton they became even more super.... yep, hyped enough for me at least.

nonetheless, +rep for taking the time to analyse all. i am pretty sure a lot of people will agree with your point of viw as well.

 

[psukkar]

If you gave a senju the full power of the uchiha you don't think similer things would be said? we only have that side stated because there are no senju trying to control the uchiha full power (both eyes) we see what one eye has done to Kakashi drain of chakra imagine what two would do.

Yamato has had plenty of time to show his potential the only problem is he missing the other link.

that the point in the series, if something doesnt belong to you u cant use it is fullest.

We have seen this over and over with the sharingan, hasihama's power, even the the rinnegan tobi is very crap compared to madara and nagato in using the rinnegan.

I bet u if madara didnt have unlimited chakra from edo tensei things wouldnt be so crazy when he fights and spams shit like nothing.

even non bloodlimits skills like the rasengan, ppl can use it but very few can use it well.

another example is the dust techs, doesnt seem to be strictly genetics needed to use it and only 2 in history have used it.

 

[XMANG55]

i am not sure, maybe you are right but it has been stated that not everybody can control or is compatible with Hashirama's DNA explaining both Danzo's difficulty with controlling mokuton (not that he was spectacular with the sharingan either.... as a sidenote: he would have probably had better chances fighting without the sharingans and mokuton) as well as Yamato, the sole survivor of Orochimaru's failed experiments.

so, in that way of seeing things: Yamato is weak-er because he was the survivor of those experiments. when all the rest have died, him surviving is a success. how good was with mokuton in the large scheme of things has not been a factor. and Danzo has been shown and explained by Obito that he couldn't control mokuton very well.

Zetsu is not front-line fighter and he never acted as such, he has used his abilities and done some incredible things as a spy. i wouldn't call him weak because he is not a clear cut fighter.

so, to sum things up: Yamato's survival and Danzo's inability to control mokuton serve as an example of how difficult is to control mokuton and use it at its maximum. which adds hype to mokuton. Zetsu might as well be the most successful spy of the series, another proof of how incredible mokuton is. and all the rest were super-warriors and with mokuton they became even more super.... yep, hyped enough for me at least.

nonetheless, +rep for taking the time to analyse all. i am pretty sure a lot of people will agree with your point of viw as well.

First off thanks for the rep and also for given logical counters to my argument.

Yes no one has been shown to be able to contorl hashi powers but a uchiha

We really don't have any one to compare the other way around meaning:that are senju with uchiha boost.( like the 5th hokage given transplanting two sharingans into her eyes)

But we can compare non uchiha and senju and the affects that the brother sister clans have on them and the power to control said power remember each affect is different for each power (sharingan MS and wood style) and the affect on the body.

the older son who got the eyes (also strong chakra) his affect on a non senju and uchiha kakashi huge drain of chakra when using the sharigan and MS.

The younger son who got the body (strong life force) danzo if he didn't keep his chakra under control the strength of Hashi cells(life force) would take over his body and he also had to keep his sharingan seal because of the huge amount of chakra they would drain.

 

[XMANG55]

that the point in the series, if something doesnt belong to you u cant use it is fullest.

We have seen this over and over with the sharingan, hasihama's power, even the the rinnegan tobi is very crap compared to madara and nagato in using the rinnegan.

I bet u if madara didnt have unlimited chakra from edo tensei things wouldnt be so crazy when he fights and spams shit like nothing.

even non bloodlimits skills like the rasengan, ppl can use it but very few can use it well.

another example is the dust techs, doesnt seem to be strictly genetics needed to use it and only 2 in history have used it.

Thats my point i'm saying that this "Hashi DNA boost" is invaild because it really takes "Hashi + uchiha DNA" to make up the super power boost that people only attribute to Hashi.