[Debate] Religion and Politics should they mix?

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Many god-fearing people feel that religion should be involved in politics. They believe that religion can play a vital part in solving humankind's problems. However, other sincere believers think that religion and politics should be separate. What do you personally think of religion's role in politics? Should those powerful forces work hand-in-hand?

Jesus Christ has been described as "the most influential figure in the religious history of mankind. So, imagine if you could ask Jesus a question. Should religion be involved in politics? What would he say?

Reasons I believe in.

1. Human ability is limited.
2. Wicked sprit forces currently have an influence.
3. True Christians give allegiance only to God's Kingdom.

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It really depends on the degree to which you value individual freedom.
 

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Well let's see. American government was founded by Christian men, such as Ben Franklin. They seemingly created one of the best, if not the best, system of government in history. The fewest problem, rebellions, etc. I say yes, but to a certain degree.
 

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Well let's see. American government was founded by Christian men, such as Ben Franklin. They seemingly created one of the best, if not the best, system of government in history. The fewest problem, rebellions, etc. I say yes, but to a certain degree.

Good point. Like I said there's some influence in there choices.
 

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It depends what area you're talking about. I'm going to assume you mean the U.S. If that's the case:

No, because one of our national rights is the freedom of religion. Not everyone in the country is Christian, and frankly, don't care in the least bit about Jesus Christ. The U.S. does not practice caesaropapism, and I see no reason for this to change. Some people don't even believe in religion; separation between religion and politics remains quite necessary.
 

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It depends what area you're talking about. I'm going to assume you mean the U.S. If that's the case:

No, because one of our national rights is the freedom of religion. Not everyone in the country is Christian, and frankly, don't care in the least bit about Jesus Christ. The U.S. does not practice caesaropapism, and I see no reason for this to change. Some people don't even believe in religion; separation between religion and politics remains quite necessary.

You take that back! =O
 

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No, not all. Religion equals ignorance imo. If you have the church influencing the government like in usa, your gonna have idiots who call themselves educated try to force us their moral standards. For example, gay marriage..something that govt shouldn't even be allowed to make decisions over. No, im not gay, but I don't think any authority should be allowed to make decisions that doesnt concern them.
 

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It depends what area you're talking about. I'm going to assume you mean the U.S. If that's the case:

No, because one of our national rights is the freedom of religion. Not everyone in the country is Christian, and frankly, don't care in the least bit about Jesus Christ. The U.S. does not practice caesaropapism, and I see no reason for this to change. Some people don't even believe in religion; separation between religion and politics remains quite necessary.
We see problems in today's system of things. People losing there jobs I recently got laid off from my job. The economy is not getting better. House prices are low. We can see that mans ability to rule this country has diminish. But your points are well. And yes I'm referring to the US.
 

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It depends what area you're talking about. I'm going to assume you mean the U.S. If that's the case:

No, because one of our national rights is the freedom of religion. Not everyone in the country is Christian, and frankly, don't care in the least bit about Jesus Christ. The U.S. does not practice caesaropapism, and I see no reason for this to change. Some people don't even believe in religion; separation between religion and politics remains quite necessary.

If no one really cares about Christiantity, like you say, then why do 90% of presidential candidates claim they're Christian, or at least that they believe in God? I'm not trying to be a douche or anything, I find that a legit question and feel that it deserves a legit answer.
 

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Well let's see. American government was founded by Christian men, such as Ben Franklin. They seemingly created one of the best, if not the best, system of government in history. The fewest problem, rebellions, etc. I say yes, but to a certain degree.

Good points.
I would say influence in a more distant way where it's more of trying to get the best from religion, not try to force upon religion....
 

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Good points.
I would say influence in a more distant way where it's more of trying to get the best from religion, not try to force upon religion....

Exactly. The church shouldn't be in control of the government (The Anglican Church), because that feeds rebellion. Look at the pilgrims for instance. On the other end of the spectrum, government shouldn't be without some guidance of religion. That would form anarchy. There has to be a balance in between these two sides of the spectrum.
 

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Yeah this question is most common asked by people.
 

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If no one really cares about Christiantity, like you say, then why do 90% of presidential candidates claim they're Christian, or at least that they believe in God? I'm not trying to be a douche or anything, I find that a legit question and feel that it deserves a legit answer.

I'm questioning from where you get your statistics. The majority of the country's population is Christian. :shrug:

And I didn't say no one cares about Christianity; I said not everyone does... because they're not Christian, like myself.
Another problem with Christianity (in this case) having an influence over the government is the fact that Christianity is also divided up into many sects. They don't keep all of the same principles/traditions anymore. Adding religion to the influence over government would probably create more trouble amongst these divisions.
 

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No, religion gets in the way of many things. It's better for religion to stay in it's place "church" or with the none politicians. Plus not everyone has the same religion.
 

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I'm questioning from where you get your statistics. The majority of the country's population is Christian. :shrug:

And I didn't say no one cares about Christianity; I said not everyone does... because they're not Christian, like myself.
Another problem with Christianity (in this case) having an influence over the government is the fact that Christianity is also divided up into many sects. They don't keep all of the same principles/traditions anymore. Adding religion to the influence over government would probably create more trouble amongst these divisions.

Addressing these denominations of Christianity, that's why the First Amendment (freedom of religion) was brought into existence. The pilgrims didn't want to persecute others as they were persecuted by the Anglican church, so they created this amendment. (People think this meant that Islam, Muslim, Atheism, etc., were what it entailed, but nope). That's kind of off topic but meh. I'm not expert on all denominations, or very many for that fact, but I wanna say it's safe to say that the fundamentals of the denominations are roughly the same.
Ex:Baptists don't believe in dancing. I'm a Baptist and I find that stupid. So....
 
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