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Or at least on the same tier and/or position, considering his hype through Pain. I know A>B>C doesn't necessarily work, but here, Pain is stated to be the strongest Akatsuki member (stronger than Itachi and Sharingan Obito) at the bottom of the panel, directly by Kishi:
And Pain straight up says, here, that if Jiraiya knew at the start what he learned about Pain as he died, that he would have most likely defeated Pain, the, as said by Kishi, strongest Akatsuki member (stronger than Itachi):
So even if A>B>C logic, doesn't work, if Jiraiya > Pain, Pain > Itachi, and (presumably, based on the general consensus here) Itachi > Jiraiya, shouldn't Itachi and Jiriaya be on similar tiers, against what many people usually think? And this is ignoring Kishi's message he sent us through Itachi (about both Jiraiya and Itachi dying if they fought), which was passed off was "a lie or excuse" by Itachi supporters, which I honestly doubt is what Kishi was intending.
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And Pain straight up says, here, that if Jiraiya knew at the start what he learned about Pain as he died, that he would have most likely defeated Pain, the, as said by Kishi, strongest Akatsuki member (stronger than Itachi):
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So even if A>B>C logic, doesn't work, if Jiraiya > Pain, Pain > Itachi, and (presumably, based on the general consensus here) Itachi > Jiraiya, shouldn't Itachi and Jiriaya be on similar tiers, against what many people usually think? And this is ignoring Kishi's message he sent us through Itachi (about both Jiraiya and Itachi dying if they fought), which was passed off was "a lie or excuse" by Itachi supporters, which I honestly doubt is what Kishi was intending.