Look at the title of my thread. I was only trying to explaining some misconceptions. I was not trying to say that Bee would have won or not. I'm only refering to some error of judgment i've seen many people doing in that thread i've seen. They were actually agreeing with the fact that Amaterasu had a great impact to Bees escape, and the purpose of the thread was to show that it's not the case at all, and that what saved Bee was Sasuke cuting the limbs.
Now if you want, we can talk about an eventuell versus in this thread, but it wasn't my purpose it's the only thing i'm saying here. And if you want to know my opinion about that fight, i think Killer-Bee would still have won, even if i suppose that they were not going for the kill like you(which is smh wrong, since Suigetsu said the contrary). And tbh i believe that even currently, Bee is still stronger than Sasuke, at least until we saw a greater improvements with his eyes abilities(EMS)
Bee stronger than Sasuke atm? I don't see that going on Bee's favor! Bee is no match for Sasuke and it's obvious that if they both fought the victor would be Sasuke. Sasuke has perfect control of his Amaterasu, he possesses Susanoo, and Susanoo arrow. I don't see Bee surviving add the facts that Sasuke has less chakra drainage from the MS abilities. Sasuke also has genjutsu which he can use to immobilize Bee long enough for the kill. He already has battle experience from fighting Bee. Yeah, Sasuke wins with med-difficulty close to high-difficulty.
The only reason that people get so worked up over this fight is because Sasuke got his ass down in a sword fight. Big deal! Sasuke lost the match, but with the many handicaps i don't blame him. This battle was a showoff battle to overpower Bee-- too bad that Kisame got the best of him. So much for the overpowered Bee that only look good in one fight.
Bee vs kisame was one of the worst match ups for bee. Since bee has ridiculous amounts of chakra being a jinchuriki, and kisame had samehada to absorb his chakra, bee was at a huge disadvantage. Not only that but bee couldn't even use his full power and transform into the 8 tails because he was concerned about harming Sabu(which was stated in the manga). So as far as kisame vs bee fight, yea technically kisame had the upper hand but it wasn't necessarily fair and square, whereas in the bee vs sasuke fight sasuke literally would have died at least two times were it not for taka, and they still failed to capture him in the end.
Bee planned the whole swapping with the tentacle on the fly and exactly how would bee cut off his own tail when he enduring the pain of being endlessly burned by amaterastu. If karin was never near bee than bee would not have an escape route and he would of been captured.
Well if Karin and juugo weren't there to heal sasuke from the brink of death in the first place, sasuke would never even have had the chance to use amaterasu on bee, and cut a tentical off because sasuke would have been dead, with several swords stuck in him..
Bee vs kisame was one of the worst match ups for bee. Since bee has ridiculous amounts of chakra being a jinchuriki, and kisame had samehada to absorb his chakra, bee was at a huge disadvantage. Not only that but bee couldn't even use his full power and transform into the 8 tails because he was concerned about harming Sabu(which was stated in the manga). So as far as kisame vs bee fight, yea technically kisame had the upper hand but it wasn't necessarily fair and square, whereas in the bee vs sasuke fight sasuke literally would have died at least two times were it not for taka, and they still failed to capture him in the end.
But that's it. Kishimoto only made Killer B strong against a puny runt who lost all his powers and had to train his new eyes. I don't see what's so impressive of that match. Just people finally using that match to call Sasuke weak. Well i find it sad to be honest and seeing Bee at this moment. He hasn't done anything impressive, hopefully Kishimoto gives Killer Bee something epic to do in the next chapters.
Bee stronger than Sasuke atm? I don't see that going on Bee's favor! Bee is no match for Sasuke and it's obvious that if they both fought the victor would be Sasuke. Sasuke has perfect control of his Amaterasu, he possesses Susanoo, and Susanoo arrow. I don't see Bee surviving add the facts that Sasuke has less chakra drainage from the MS abilities. Sasuke also has genjutsu which he can use to immobilize Bee long enough for the kill. He already has battle experience from fighting Bee. Yeah, Sasuke wins with med-difficulty close to high-difficulty.
Yeah i do believe that Bee is stronger than current Sasuke simply because the only jutsu i see dangerous for him is Amaterasu, and i can't give victory to Sasuke just because of one jutsu, especially when we talk about a jutsu that Bee has even already seen. He already has knowledge on that since their last fight. Even caught off guard and without knowledge, he managed to create an opportunity to kawarimi it. Furthermore, you need to concentrate if you want to aim perfectly with Amaterasu, and we've already seen what he can do to counter Amaterasu when he has knowledge against Itachi. He pays more attention, and can attack the user before the jutsu is released(Itachi would have had a great hole in the head if it wasn't for Nagatos Shinra tensei):
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And i believe that V2 or full Hachibi mode is stronger than Sasukes Susanoo version. These are the reasons why i see Bee still stronger than current Sasuke
Bogard this is perhaps the most illogical thread i have seen from you. You get disturbed because people are saying that Taka>>> Bee? They are right and even if Bee did escape before he would stop Amaterasu. He had no choice in the matter. It was either getting Bee or let Karin fall into her doom. Sasuke decided to save Karin and Bee escaped before Sasuke could finish the job. It's simple don't overcomplicate things.
The only reason that people get so worked up over this fight is because Sasuke got his ass down in a sword fight. Big deal! Sasuke lost the match, but with the many handicaps i don't blame him. This battle was a showoff battle to overpower Bee-- too bad that Kisame got the best of him. So much for the overpowered Bee that only look good in one fight.
Oh, save it. Sasuke in a singles match would of lost due to the handicaps + losing all his powers from Orochimaru + obtaining a new dojutsu without experience. We all know that Bogard. Why state a naive point in your thread. Taka would of beaten Bee, if the regulations were to kill him, not spare his life and capture him. I understand very well it seems your the one that needs to get a clue. The thread that you are in reference adding to your arguement is saying Taka> Bee, not Sasuke> Bee. Everyone has a right to call out what they feel.
Bee stronger than Sasuke atm? I don't see that going on Bee's favor! Bee is no match for Sasuke and it's obvious that if they both fought the victor would be Sasuke. Sasuke has perfect control of his Amaterasu, he possesses Susanoo, and Susanoo arrow. I don't see Bee surviving add the facts that Sasuke has less chakra drainage from the MS abilities. Sasuke also has genjutsu which he can use to immobilize Bee long enough for the kill. He already has battle experience from fighting Bee. Yeah, Sasuke wins with med-difficulty close to high-difficulty.
But that's it. Kishimoto only made Killer B strong against a puny runt who lost all his powers and had to train his new eyes. I don't see what's so impressive of that match. Just people finally using that match to call Sasuke weak. Well i find it sad to be honest and seeing Bee at this moment. He hasn't done anything impressive, hopefully Kishimoto gives Killer Bee something epic to do in the next chapters.
Well if Karin and juugo weren't there to heal sasuke from the brink of death in the first place, sasuke would never even have had the chance to use amaterasu on bee, and cut a tentical off because sasuke would have been dead, with several swords stuck in him..
This isn't a versus thread so all I did was stick to the subject of this thread which was the hachibi part and as I said in a previous post, I will be ignoring everything up until hachibi form since it does not pertain to this thread.
Yeah i do believe that Bee is stronger than current Sasuke simply because the only jutsu i see dangerous for him is Amaterasu, and i can't give victory to Sasuke just because of one jutsu, especially when we talk about a jutsu that Bee has even already seen. He already has knowledge on that since their last fight. Even caught off guard and without knowledge, he managed to create an opportunity to kawarimi it. Furthermore, you need to concentrate if you want to aim perfectly with Amaterasu, and we've already seen what he can do to counter Amaterasu when he has knowledge against Itachi. He pays more attention, and can attack the user before the jutsu is released(Itachi would have had a great hole in the head if it wasn't for Nagatos Shinra tensei):
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And i believe that V2 or full Hachibi mode is stronger than Sasukes Susanoo version. These are the reasons why i see Bee still stronger than current Sasuke
Yeah i don't see V2 doing shit to Susanoo unless Sasuke is defenseless. Also, taijutsu isn't a huge factor in here. He fought expert taijutsu opponents like Itachi, Bee, and Raikage. Sasuke at that time wasn't better than any of them, but he had enough time to react to their attacks. EX: Itachi and Sasuke fought in the Hideout. Sasuke was at a disadvantage even though Itachi was sick. Sasuke overwhelmed the clone by waiting on the roof in order to stab Itachi. Sasuke and Itachi fought shuriken at even odds.
2nd: Sasuke fought Killer Bee in the swords clash and even though Sasuke could dodge all of the attacks. He did fairly well in surviving all those multiple swords. I think when Jugo launched Sasuke in the air. He managed to dodged Bee's tail beast frontal attack.
3rd: Sasuke fought the Raikage who is also a Raiton user. Sasuke managed to attacked the Raikage from behind, which i have to say it was an impressive feat. Despite the sword being deflected on the ground. Raikage tried to chop Sasuke from behind, but Sasuke used Blaze Release to intercept his attack.
In other words, Sasuke's taijutsu and reaction abilities increased while fighting all these opponents. Sasuke has the sharingan which helps him read his opponents movements, so Bee won't be able to land cheap shots like his last battle.
Sasuke can also use the Susanoo like the Curse Seal into parts. So he can grab Bee or make a shield from behind, etc...
Also, Sasuke can cover his Susanoo with Blaze Release. I don't know how Bee will get around Sasuke since he can't go through the extinguishable flames. Sasuke also has Susanoo Arrows and after spamming a few of them. Bee is as good as dead. Let me add the Blaze Magatama that he used on Zetsu.
Enough about the Susanoo partial parts he can use. What will he do once he faces the Final Susanoo? The only thing i can agree with you is that Hachibi form using TBB could spell trouble for Sasuke. Other than that Sasuke beats Bee with better ease.
I think you underestimate V2, so i'll try to show you how hax this mode is. Firstly i would tell you that arrows would most likely be useless against this mode. Besides from the fact, that Bee is incredibly fast in this mode(probably on A's level), it gives him an incredible defense. Not even Orochimarus kusanagi(said to be able to cut diamong) could hurt it, and it was only 4tails of Kyubi(look at the range and the power put in it, and it was still useless):
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(Orochimaru is even surprised)
Concurrently, arrows had difficulties to pierce through this:
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So i've no doubt in my mind that if it touches him in V2, the max that arrows could do is to push him away, but it won't hurt him
Furthermore, V2 is even stronger than V1, but look what just V1 did here:
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It wiped the place there like it was nothing, and even Sasuke was surprised by the power:
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He can even send some chakra arms through the floor like we've seen plenty of times, so the underground weakness of Susanoo will be easy to counter for him in V2. He has even shown that even in base mode, he can send some tentacles to catch the ennemy from underground.
And to finish this, i can only show you some threads about Bee, cuz i think you underrate him a lot(like a lot of people in NB, so far i noticed it):
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Tbh i even thought a time that Bee was stronger than EMS Madara:
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And just before you begin to let you know, i'm not a fan of Killer-Bee. It's only his capacities that i think are underrated by many
Now, it's up to you to believe what you want about the outcome of this fight. Like i've said, it wasn't even the purpose of the thread
