Hashirama isn't stronger than Madara.

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So, we all know that Madara and Hashirama fought at VOTE and people say that Hashirama is better than him because of that. While in actuality, neither one of them won and it resulted in a tie.

How can one win if they were both aiming to kill and neither one died. According to the new chapters we have, it's more than likely that Madara outlived Hashirama.

They were both severely injured in the end, but no one died. Don't give me that "Oh well Madara had Kurama" crap either because if you watch the NUNSG OVA, you see that Madara only had Kurama for a very small portion of the fight.

Therefore, Hashirama = Madara. Discuss.
 

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hashirama is stronger. fight on the ova never happened. a fight doesn't mean it's a tie just because no one died.
 

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Hashirama IS stronger than EMS Madara, it's been made obvious in the manga many times, Hashirama still won the battle in the end, whether Madara died or not.
 

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wait so the title says hes better than hashi but at the end it says they are = im very confused yes i know madara is better than hashirama but thanks for pointing this out to the rest of the base
 

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Why do people forget that Madara used Kurama when he fought Hashirama? :| Without Kurama... Madara would have been fodderized by Hashirama.
 

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Hashirama IS stronger than EMS Madara, it's been made obvious in the manga many times, Hashirama still won the battle in the end, whether Madara died or not.

When has the manga said that Hashirama > Madara? Nowhere because they are equal in power; Hashirama's body can just endure more damage than Madara's and Hashirama had nature on his side.

I'm not saying Madara>Hashirama nor am I saying Hashirama> Madara; I believe they are equal
 

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Cool story bro Hashirama>Ems Madara any day!
 

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Incorrect, Kishi has stated he is the strongest character.

Please show me where because I believe he said Madara was the strongest at this point. (Btw, Madara had Rinnegan before he died so you can say "Edo Madara" without including alive, Rinnegan Madara.)
 

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Why do people forget that Madara used Kurama when he fought Hashirama? :| Without Kurama... Madara would have been fodderized by Hashirama.

wow cant tell if your a troll or just stupid so since madara is so fodder how was he always looked upon as a God almost and feared by most and how was he able to rival hashi most of the time
 

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Well Madara himself did say Hashirama could stop him...
But I still think Hashirama is just a brand of steroids, he's not a real person.
 

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Well Madara himself did say Hashirama could stop him...
But I still think Hashirama is just a brand of steroids, he's not a real person.

Madara said that Hashirama could stop him, meaning that Hashirama had the potential to stop him
 

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You guyz go off point as if you don't watch naruto anime or read the manga.you always say what suits you.the Madura who fought hashirama know he well enough to say he is the only one to stop him but you guys keep say Madura is stronger I don't blame you guys mmaybe if we all had watch their fight we would have known what hashirama did to maradara but since you don't know, you are all taking hashirama for a weaker one among the two of em
 

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yes he has. . . in fact even madara has accepted that he was defeated by hashirama
 
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