Of course itachi > obito.

[ajbum88]

People totally forget about izanami and izanagi, and I believe transplanting shisui eye may give him a EMS? Unlikely but there's nothing that says it won't work nor is there proof it will, so don't flame me

Everything is possible until proven otherwise by kishi himself.

 

[ajbum88]

dude why do you have to downgrade tobi for itachi to win that just proves how weak he is hate these kind of threads

I did not. That's before itachi died. Tobi had no rinnegan then.

 

[bl4ckJack]

Sorry to disappoint you but i think not. Haha.
You can only make it to hottest thread if 1. Senseless debate where people insists on something out of manga. 2. you are backed by fanboys who loved what you placed in your threads. Haha. Joke. =))

Thats what .. U just see .. they are coming

 

[XxSageoftheSixpathsIIXx]

Obito is stronger that Itachi

 

[Takos]

OP: It's true that Itachi is a master of genjutsu, but Obito is very proficient with that as well - do you really think he would be caught in a genjutsu which would allow Itachi to control Obito? As a testament to Obito's proficiency with genjutsu, he was able to take control of Kurama, a feat only accomplished by Madara besides him. In fact, Obito presented a genjutsu controlling the opponent when he fought Konan - and he utilized this genjutsu in the middle of a fight. Itachi's only use of such genjutsu was on immobilized Kabuto under Izanami. So basically no, Itachi won't make Obito tangible by controlling him.

Susanoo won't give Itachi much, because Obito can simply slip through it with Kamui and lay his hands on Itachi then.
However, an even stronger argument against Susanoo is that Itachi cannot maintain it for long - it drains his chakra horribly. In other words, Susanoo is useful for him only if he can finish his opponent fast with it and unfortunately, Obito can prolong the fight almost as much as he likes. He can just turn intangible and drink some afternoon tea while Itachi knocks himself out by using Susanoo.

Obito's only real danger is Tsukyomi, but - because of the fact he can turn intangible, he can avoid eye contact without any risk.

And how Obito can defeat Itachi? Simply by touching him. Even Minato, who's much faster than Itachi, barely managed to get away from Obito's Kamui and Obito himself stated he can use it faster and that "next time he will warp Minato as soon as he touches him".

As you can see, Obito wins this rather easily, with the use of one jutsu only. Now remember that he has many more in his arsenal.

So, to sum it up:
-Because of his low stamina, Itachi's best bet at fighting is defeating his opponent as soon as possible. Unfortunately, Obito can prolong the fight as much as he wants.
-Susanoo is useless because of the reason stated above.
-Amaterasu is useless because of Obito's kamui.
-Tsukyomi is Itachi's only chance of winning, but Obito can avoid it relatively easily as well, because he can focus entirely on it (all of Itachi's other techniques present no risk to Obito)

 

[Blaze Release]

This fight would be interesting actually. Loads of people think amaterasu/tsukuyomi/totsuka sword gg or kamui gg. However its more complicated than that. Itachi is stronger than sharingan tobi, however kamui is an annoying technique. Believe itachi has demonstrated enough intelligence feats to warrant the idea that he would grasp the basics of kamui in a confrontation. Similar to how team kakashi did. Torune/fu did and minato did. In order to attack he has to solidify. If itachi grasps this basic which i believe he should be able to, he is favourite

 

[Gooner4life]

Obito isn't some inexperienced weakling with genjutsu, he possibly controlled the mizukage, a perfect Jinchuurki, and even if he didn't he has enough knowledge of the sharingan for sharingan genjutsu to be too not be too much of a problem. Itachi uses Susano'o, Tobi moves through the ground, grabs his leg and warps him, Itachi ain't touching him in the meantime.

 

[wedha]

Kamui is dangerous technic and kakashi's kamui is much more dangerous than obito.

 

[ll BL4CKM00N ll]

I believe there equal. Yes I think itachi would come out the winner but u never know. People claim that with out a justu to counter kamui or s/t nin. Theres no way to beat tobi. Smh. I think in this fight justu would play a minor factor as it would come down to who's the better strategist, tobi has shown to be an excellent and proficient user of kamui and itachi has shown countless times his analytical talent, along with his arsenal that's formidable for any shinobi. It'd be a great fight no doubt.

 

[SilverSlick]

Genjutsu won't work
Amaterasu has been proven not to work on Obito
Totsuka blade will not work
Yata Mirror and Susano'o itself is useless

Yes, Itachi can figure out Kamui, but will that help him in the slightest bit? No. In fact, someone already mentioned this, Minato was barely able to escape Obito's absorption process. He didn't escape using pure speed either. He escaped because he teleported. Obito said in the nex panel, that he'd warp Minato the moment he touched him next time. Meaning, he could speed up the process at which absorbs to an instantaneous level.

 

[Bogard]

1. Genjutsu: You need not look into his eyes to trap you. Itachi has one of the best genjutsu technique in the naruto verse as stated by shikaku nara. Yes obito can possibly break it but would probably be already too late if itachi is damn serious because;

Actually Obitos genjutsu may be stronger since he was even able to control a perfect Jinchuriki through years with it. His genjutsu can even kill(Konan), and he can even control the 9tails. He has shown stuffs on a higher level that Itachis genjutsus in terms of power. Sure Itachi is more skillfull in using genjutsus, but Obitos genjutsu is probably even more powerful. Furthermore, Itachi admitted himself that a Uchiha could defeat his tsukuyomi and he was obviously talking about Obito at that moment since he was the only Uchiha alive with great sharingan skills and MS at that moment

A. Use body-wide amaterasu attack while obito is trap in genjutsu. He may be released from the genjutsu because of the searing pain but too late.
(note: he escaped from the amaterasu attack from sasuke because the part hit was the artificial zetsu body)

What you seems to miss is that Sharingan doesn't break a genjutsu. It helps to see through it, so it's not that Obito needs to break Itachis genjutsu, his Sharingan will see through it as if a genjutsu wasn't even cast on him. Amaterasu is useless against Obito who can either evade it by staying in the other dimension, or warp it with Kamui even if he gets touched by it like he even already did

B. Susanoo. I'm not saying just susanoo itself but "susanoo + sword of totsuka and yata mirror". *Zetsu said that with this combo. Itachi's susanoo or basically itachi himself is invincible.
>The mirror shield can deflect any attack because of its nature transformation capability.*
>Sword of totsuka sealing capability. *I bet when you're about to be sealed you cannot move and escape it. I could've sworn obito can do nothing if nagato cannot even shinra tensei it in the last minute.

The mirror can sure deflect things, but these things must actually be from this dimension. Mirror can't touch Obito since when Obito warps himself in the other dimension, he simply doesn't exist in the dimension or yata mirror, so by using kamui, Yata or not, it would be useless, and the same goes for totsuka. On the other side, Itachi has absolutely no way to stop Obito warping him except from avoiding or using feints(karasu bunshins for example), but Susanoo itself is useless. Whether he uses it or not won't help him to get warped. In the contrary, if he uses Susanoo, it will even slow his reaction which would make it much more easier for Obito to approach and warp him.

2. Shishui's eye. He gave it to naruto alright. But if he had it with him, he can turn obito to a loyal pet.
(note: i include this because of the time lapse itachi was in the akatsuki. He gave the eye to naruto not long before his death)

You are talking about an eye ability which has no feat in battle. Ao fought Shisui without problems and he is sometimes considered as a fodder. Danzo managed to take his eye easily. I actually don't understand why this eye ability is that overrated when it even has no feats in battle. Eventhen, you're wrong about something. Itachi couldn't use it when he was alive. He said it himself that he couldn't cuz Shisuis eye was still recharging and knowing he was about to die, he prefer give it to Naruto when the time come

3. Brain. Nuff said.

Actually the one who outsmarted the other is Obito. He knew everything about Itachi, when Itachi knew nothing about Obito, not even his name. He didn't even knew that Obito already knew everything about him, that's why he was pissed of when Naruto told him that and said "damn you Madara". What's even funny is that he always thought Obito was Madara


Tobi needs to be tangible to attack, otherwise he cannot scratch itachi. But if he does, then he is in his most vulnerable. Honestly, why am i making this thread. I thought this was obvious until i read something.[/QUOTE]

 

[ajbum88]

Amaterasu cant be warp solely if it was attached already in your body. It shown in obito's fight with konan that even things need not to be attached to him for it to warp with him. The explosive tags of konan warped with him. He only escaped the amaterasu because the part hit on tobi was the zetsu thing. He was able to remove it and replace another zetsu body. Thats it. Body wide amaterasu is definitely deadly to him.

 

[ajbum88]

Did tobi's ninjutsu kill konan? I thought she was stabbed? Please read the above post. And actually itachi's best fight scenes was with sasuke. And sasuke won not because itachi was sick. sasuke won because itachi wanted him to win. Even zetsu thought there was something wrong with itachi.
Tobi needs to be tangible to attack, otherwise he cannot scratch itachi. But if he does, then he is in his most vulnerable.

 

[KidGamer65]

Amaterasu cant be warp solely if it was attached already in your body. It shown in obito's fight with konan that even things need not to be attached to him for it to warp with him. The explosive tags of konan warped with him. He only escaped the amaterasu because the part hit on tobi was the zetsu thing. He was able to remove it and replace another zetsu body. Thats it. Body wide amaterasu is definitely deadly to him.

It would have burnt his clothes, which it didn't and there's no way he did all that before coming out to talk with Sasuke.

 

[yellowxflash]

Errrrr na

 

[Stark]

Itachi > 3 Tomoe Tobi

Itachi < Current Obito

 

[ajbum88]

It would have burnt his clothes, which it didn't and there's no way he did all that before coming out to talk with Sasuke.

Its anime thing. Plus if it was shown burnt but he's not hurt then it would prematurely show his identity.

 

[ajbum88]

Itachi > 3 Tomoe Tobi

Itachi < Current Obito

Agreed.

 

[Minator93]

Itachi can't even Beat Sharingan Tobi let alone Rikudo Tobi U_U

 

[KidGamer65]

Its anime thing. Plus if it was shown burnt but he's not hurt then it would prematurely show his identity.

Now you aren't making any sense, he didn't get burnt because it didn't hurt him long enough to burn him since he disposed of it.