Sauske Versus Killer Bee: An In Depth Analaysis!

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Itachi held back a lot. He used everythin , but did not really harmed Sasuke.
He also was not just sitting waiting for Sasuke. While Sasuke fought with Deidara, Itachi seeked out Naruto and gave some of his power To Naruto. he was tired and ill. but he was doing everything he could for Sasuke.

Itachi certainly not intended to kill Sasuke if he was making efforts to get Naruto and seek some kind of assurance from him to take care of him(Sasuke)

Itachi's character was always intiguing to me. Madara didn't tell the whole truth , but he didn't tell outright lies either.

Kisame and Suigetsu are brothers? I missed that part ....

Off course Sasuke formed a team. He learnt his lesson of team work well. Plus Orochimaru knew the best Loyal soldiers around him. Sasuke was his apprentice. :p:p
You're right, Itachi was very busy preparing everything for Sauske's path to be laid. Even in his dying death he was paving the way for Sauske to be protected from Konoha and Danzou. Im sure he knew Zetsu would watch, he had to show how strong Sauske wasso he could take his place in Akatsuki, keeping him safe. Theres bad news in Akatsuki too, so he gave Sauske a gift to keep him safe from Madara as well. Kind of a rocks and a hard spot, eh?

As for Kisame and Suigetsu being brothers, I do my research. :D Look up their bios.
 
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if you've put in thinking even the half of the effort you put in writing this,i am sure you would be more accurate...
sasuke had no chance against itachi that is off questioning...(itachi won in all aspects)
and i think it was obvious sasuke just had no chance against that guy even with team's help he barely made it with life(he wasn't holding back rofl he even used amaterasu...)back in sasuke retrieval arc naruto was pounding sasuke with his kyuubi cloak on,but sasuke took almost no damage,because he had curse seal on,but now he has no curse seal on so even one hit from hachibi jinchuriki killer bee opened his chest(i am not saying that killer bee hits with same strength as young naruto at sasuke retrieval arc)
 

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We can assume that the timespan that has passed is relatively short for a few reasons.
1. The fight between Sauske and Killer Bee begins during or before the invasion of konoha arc, but not before Naruto arrives. Sauske leaves for konoha before Naruto is back in Konoha.

2. Right after Sauske leaves, Madara tells Pein to go to Konoha and capture Kyuubi. It is safe to assume that he used his time/space jutsu to get there, as he prefers this mode of transportation. The night time we see Madara he has the Habachi clon?and Pein is still in Konoha, or heading for it. Otherwise there would be no need to wait for him.

3. The strongest evidence that not awhole lot of time has elasped is tha Jugo himself says that Sauske is still suffering from his fight with Itachi.

I'm going to have to find the exact wording, but I think it was vauge enough t include the possi ility that some were used to save Killer Bee. You are right, however, at least two were lost. I will look into it when I get a better internet connection.

I persnally believe Killer Bee was in control of the sitaution up until Amaterasu was released. At that point I think the only thing that saved him was Beast Mode, although this is mosty speculation.
I just saw the pannel in which Madara held KB on his shoulder. Zetsu said that Sasuke succeeded. Madara replied that they just have to wait for Pain to return, now. Konoha attack started in the next chapter.

So Pain reached Konoha after KB was captured(Or not) even if he left at the same time. Naruto learnt the sage mode before that and Ma toad left for getting food ( we learnt latter that she was near Konoha for that).

Juggo refferred to Sasuke suffering from Itachi- because he noticed Sasuke was fatigued- Sasuke couldn't see the glass of water properly and spilled it when he tried to drank from it. He had used his eyes too much till then. too much use in short span means acclerated blindness.

Itachi had to leave Jiraiya after using Ametsrasu.

But Sasuke had rested when Madara talked to him. I am thinking that Pain didn't wait long and left for Konoha soon after Jiraiya's death. One of his bodies were there. Kyubi or no kyubi he would have attacked Konoha. I really don't have time line to see how much time it took to reach Konoha from the rain village and exactly how many days Naruto got his training....

I am not going to read manga the moment... it is too mcuh to go through and maybe I lack that much dedication.
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haha you made me laugh =))))))that was good.
but are you as good as you think you are?
counter arguments?
whole your topic is a bunch of shit.noone can predict who will win,this or that.I already made topic about that where I explane what where and why.I advice you to read my last 5 threads.then you will understand everything
and as for my intelectual abilities...I am 20 years old and I am already a lawyer and working in one of the biggest firms in the country...so.....
If you're a lawyer, as you claim, then you will surely lose in court and I have no clue why one of "the biggest firms" in the countr would hire you. If you're a lawyer, one would think that you would formulate a counter to my arguments and reply, as that is exactly what lawyers do. If you were a lawyer you spelling, puncutation, and grammer would far exceed the skills that you haveshown youself to posses.

You will not see another response from me regarding any of your posts unless it is something halfway intelligable and on the topic of the thread. Have a good night.
 

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If you're a lawyer, as you claim, then you will surely lose in court and I have no clue why one of "the biggest firms" in the countr would hire you. If you're a lawyer, one would think that you would formulate a counter to my arguments and reply, as that is exactly what lawyers do. If you were a lawyer you spelling, puncutation, and grammer would far exceed the skills that you haveshown youself to posses.

You will not see another response from me regarding any of your posts unless it is something halfway intelligable and on the topic of the thread. Have a good night.
I dont have to post one and the same thing twice as I have already made thread about what are you talking about.I dont know what arguments are you talking about but I cant counter ANY argument against you post as its useless.by analising only jutsus and abilities of a shinobi you cant calculate how he will fight against other ninja.its excapmle was kisame vs team10.
I hope you understand what I mean
as for my english its all right.I am not american and neither englishman to spell perfectly.it only shows you ignorent you are "our genious writter",when you dont understand that foreign lawyers are not obliged to know english!
P.S. I won my first case 3 months ago and my sensei platinum69 congratulated me with all his heart!
 

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if you've put in thinking even the half of the effort you put in writing this,i am sure you would be more accurate...
sasuke had no chance against itachi that is off questioning...(itachi won in all aspects)
and i think it was obvious sasuke just had no chance against that guy even with team's help he barely made it with life(he wasn't holding back rofl he even used amaterasu...)back in sasuke retrieval arc naruto was pounding sasuke with his kyuubi cloak on,but sasuke took almost no damage,because he had curse seal on,but now he has no curse seal on so even one hit from hachibi jinchuriki killer bee opened his chest(i am not saying that killer bee hits with same strength as young naruto at sasuke retrieval arc)
sasuke sux.he obteined everything form others.
sharingan from his clan
speed from me(rock lee)
chidori from kakashi
tsukoyomi amateratsu from his brother
and so on.
he is not a genious,he's just a emo guy with a purpose to kill his brother and he was warshiped in the village just because that he was the only survivor from noble uchiha clan.thats all!
 
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I dont have to post one and the same thing twice as I have already made thread about what are you talking about.I dont know what arguments are you talking about but I cant counter ANY argument against you post as its useless.by analising only jutsus and abilities of a shinobi you cant calculate how he will fight against other ninja.its excapmle was kisame vs team10.
I hope you understand what I meanhttp://www.narutobase.net/forums/naruto-manga/15298-sauske-versus-killer-bee-depth-analaysis.html
as for my english its all right.I am not american and neither englishman to spell perfectly.it only shows you ignorent you are "our genious writter",when you dont understand that foreign lawyers are not obliged to know english!
P.S. I won my first case 3 months ago and my sensei platinum69 congratulated me with all his heart!
hello my friend,i see that some people say many things that make no sense in NB,but as you said above sometime ignorance is blessed rofl...
for someone writing English as his second language you are doing excellent job.just try to move on there are so many wholes in this so called theory that i don't won't to point them out at all,besides everyone already noticed that.
 
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I dont have to post one and the same thing twice as I have already made thread about what are you talking about.I dont know what arguments are you talking about but I cant counter ANY argument against you post as its useless.by analising only jutsus and abilities of a shinobi you cant calculate how he will fight against other ninja.its excapmle was kisame vs team10.
I hope you understand what I mean
as for my english its all right.I am not american and neither englishman to spell perfectly.it only shows you ignorent you are "our genious writter",when you dont understand that foreign lawyers are not obliged to know english!
P.S. I won my first case 3 months ago and my sensei platinum69 congratulated me with all his heart!
You are right, I assumed english was your native tongue. Its hard to tells these days because of the degredation the youth causes, so I apologize.

I stand firm on my point though. You have offered no counter-argument and your posts are usless. The very least you could have done was say: Here is a link to my threads, there-in are my arguments. Instead you walk into this thead and flame it. That was your mistake.

I would expect you to treat my thread the same why I would treat anyone elses. Anyone who comes up with a thread as in depth as mine has oobviously put seriou thought into it andis not walking into the theory half baked. If you dissagree, fine, disagree. But when I ask you to post chapters and counter arguments and to not flame my thread, spam it, or use it to fluff your post count, I expect you to honor that.

Because of that I will not take back my harsh tone or my harsh words, you get what you give. Now I have said my piece, I ask you to leave this thread until you have something intellegent to add.

Since you did not respect the first of my rules, I'll at least ask you to respect my request.

Thank you.
 

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sasuke sux.he obteined everything form others.
sharingan from his clan
speed from me(rock lee)
chidori from kakashi
tsukoyomi amateratsu from his brother
and so on.
he is not a genious,he's just a emo guy with a purpose to kill his brother and he was warshiped in the village just because that he was the only survivor from noble uchiha clan.thats all!
So basically you are in Hate Sasuke mode at the moment and don't like the threads trying tp prove him strong? Is that right?

I agree that he obtained thngs from others, but you still need talent to do things right way. He got good grades in school even without sharingan, remember? I am not his fan either. And I agree that he got sympathy from the whole village as lone survivor and is emo. So is Pain(I suspect)

But Naruto still wants him back in the village - so beware of him and Sakura:sakura:, Remember how she punched Sai?:p:p
 
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You are right, I assumed english was your native tongue. Its hard to tells these days because of the degredation the youth causes, so I apologize.

I stand firm on my point though. You have offered no counter-argument and your posts are usless. The very least you could have done was say: Here is a link to my threads, there-in are my arguments. Instead you walk into this thead and flame it. That was your mistake.

I would expect you to treat my thread the same why I would treat anyone elses. Anyone who comes up with a thread as in depth as mine has oobviously put seriou thought into it andis not walking into the theory half baked. If you dissagree, fine, disagree. But when I ask you to post chapters and counter arguments and to not flame my thread, spam it, or use it to fluff your post count, I expect you to honor that.

Because of that I will not take back my harsh tone or my harsh words, you get what you give. Now I have said my piece, I ask you to leave this thread until you have something intellegent to add.

Since you did not respect the first of my rules, I'll at least ask you to respect my request.

Thank you.
one single argument would be enough to puuf your theory.such as....if we follow your logic (that logic consists in calculating the end of a match between 2 shinobies by analysing their powers)neji hyuga must be the strongest shinobi of all as his 64 palms would take any ninja.but as we saw he could do nothing against kisame.plus he was helped by 3 more people and kisame was fighting with his 15% chakra.
I think its enough for you for now!
 

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So basically you are in Hate Sasuke mode at the moment and don't like the threads trying tp prove him strong? Is that right?

I agree that he obtained thngs from others, but you still need talent to do things right way. He got good grades in school even without sharingan, remember? I am not his fan either. And I agree that he got sympathy from the whole village as lone survivor and is emo. So is Pain(I suspect)

But Naruto still wants him back in the village - so beware of him and Sakura:sakura:, Remember how she punched Sai?:p:p
good grades at academy dont prove he is a genious! he was the last of uchiha and everyone expacted the best from him.he had such senseis that it's no surprise he achieved such levels!
 

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You are right, I assumed english was your native tongue. Its hard to tells these days because of the degredation the youth causes, so I apologize.
There are a lot of ESLs here. English is not my native language either and I seldom use it when not on a forum like this. This is an internet- International.
 

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good grades at academy dont prove he is a genious! he was the last of uchiha and everyone expacted the best from him.he had such senseis that it's no surprise he achieved such levels!
I dind't try to prove him genius. Where did you see that.

And I have a law degree too. Though I got it at 22. Don't give waywards arguments. Don't waste your time countring arguments I didn't give in the first place.
 

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I just saw the pannel in which Madara held KB on his shoulder. Zetsu said that Sasuke succeeded. Madara replied that they just have to wait for Pain to return, now. Konoha attack started in the next chapter.

So Pain reached Konoha after KB was captured(Or not) even if he left at the same time. Naruto learnt the sage mode before that and Ma toad left for getting food ( we learnt latter that she was near Konoha for that).

Juggo refferred to Sasuke suffering from Itachi- because he noticed Sasuke was fatigued- Sasuke couldn't see the glass of water properly and spilled it when he tried to drank from it. He had used his eyes too much till then. too much use in short span means acclerated blindness.

Itachi had to leave Jiraiya after using Ametsrasu.

But Sasuke had rested when Madara talked to him. I am thinking that Pain didn't wait long and left for Konoha soon after Jiraiya's death. One of his bodies were there. Kyubi or no kyubi he would have attacked Konoha. I really don't have time line to see how much time it took to reach Konoha from the rain village and exactly how many days Naruto got his training....

I am not going to read manga the moment... it is too mcuh to go through and maybe I lack that much dedication.
-_-;
Last response, I need to get going.

1. Seems to me like that's proving my point...

2. We know )ein left for Konoha AFTER Madara told him too. Madara told him too after Sauske left, because in order fr Sauske to leave madara hd to untie him.

3. No, Jugo said that right after the battle with Killer Bee, not while they were recovering.

4. Itachi used Amaterasu to escape Jiraya's Toads Stomach Jutsu, he didn't think he and Kisame could handle Jiraya. Though Im not sure why you bring this up.

5. I wouldn't call passing out resting...

6. When we first see Pein at Konoha he is with all six bodies and talking to Konan. The summoning you are reffering to
takes place once animal ream is inside the Konohan Barrier Jutsu, its done this way so Konoha gets confused, thinking its only one intruder when actually its seven (if you count Konan.)

I hve to go now. More responses later. Sorry they are taking so long. Internet is slow right now.
 

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it is proper manners to check and see if there is already a thread........you want ppl to reply to yours right???? or you want someone posting the same thing after you and getting all the replies???

like i said dont mean to take sides but same thing was done to me earlier 2day.....its frustrating
 
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