[Spoilers] Theory: The Founder of Akatsuki and the one who controlled Yagura was not Madara

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In the manga Madara only stated the they could not leave with there bodies. Which means they could have a way to perfectly clone themselves with Zetsu which enables it to use there abilties to some extent to go out and do some of those things. I think that even now that black/white Zetus and Obito are connected some how. Especially with both of them having pretty much the same split personality one goofy side and one serious.
 

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they could not bring madara back before because tobi did not have all the tailed beast. the time differences are there .... i dont know at what time was that scene when they went back at kisame flashback im pretty sure it was tobi.
I dont think tobi actually considered himself to be marada it just gave him credibility and a name that people fear, so thier mission go go along a bit easier , he told kisame he was madara so there could be that fear in him and to show his power also not to disobey, didnt you see how relieved he was once tobi sowed kisame his face. like"oh now that i know its you i feel better about the plan"


If that's the case then why grow your hair out then cut it? There's absolutely no reason for that unless Obito really thought he was the new Madara Uchiha.

Why would they need the tailed beasts to bring back one man? Nagato was a lab rat and nothing more. He had one purpose. Unlock the rinnegan powers, revive Madara then die. PERIOD. But Tobito didn't tell Nagato about the real reason he needed the Rinne Tensei I bet. I have a strong feeling it was intended for Rin.

Why would he ask kabuto how to stop Edo Tensei? I don't think he would've cared how it worked if Madaras corpse wasn't in that Coffin.

He did not want him around at all. He went by Madara almost till the very end. Than when he was figured out he knew the jig was up. And the real madara was around, so why keep the act going?
 

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If that's the case then why grow your hair out then cut it? There's absolutely no reason for that unless Obito really thought he was the new Madara Uchiha.

Why would they need the tailed beasts to bring back one man? Nagato was a lab rat and nothing more. He had one purpose. Unlock the rinnegan powers, revive Madara then die. PERIOD. But Tobito didn't tell Nagato about the real reason he needed the Rinne Tensei I bet. I have a strong feeling it was intended for Rin.

Why would he ask kabuto how to stop Edo Tensei? I don't think he would've cared how it worked if Madaras corpse wasn't in that Coffin.

He did not want him around at all. He went by Madara almost till the very end. Than when he was figured out he knew the jig was up. And the real madara was around, so why keep the act going?

Go read the chapter and you will see why you are wrong and that yes Obito did grow his hair out soooooo

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wow after this weeks chapter, it matches with your theory. nice.
 

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wow after this weeks chapter, it matches with your theory. nice.

Thanks but we need to see the next chapter....don't know if what will happen when obito go to the mist... maybe he will see how rin died and his mangekyu will be awaken, then maybe he will establish akatsuki there or maybe he will control the kage.....lets see...=)
 

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No it wasn't the Bloody Mist era was going on right before start of the Series because that is why ZAbuza and Haku left the village Zabuza wanted to kill the Mizukage and the Mizukage under Obito's influence was exterminating anyone with Kekkai Genkai

Quit making something out of nothing

Bloody mist was going on before Zabuza even became a ninja, not just when he left.

Also I used that as ONE point of reference, I'm not making "something out of nothing"... I'm not even entirely sure that phrase means what you think it means
 

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Bloody mist was going on before Zabuza even became a ninja, not just when he left.

Also I used that as ONE point of reference, I'm not making "something out of nothing"... I'm not even entirely sure that phrase means what you think it means

Actually it means exactly what I know it means. Secondly there are no other time periods confirmed about the blood mist in the manga and really the only thing we can go on is the fact that when Yagura was controlled it was clearly Obito as he had shown his face to Kisame twice and both times Kisame acknowledged him as the same person soo...
 
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