[Spoilers] Theory: The Founder of Akatsuki and the one who controlled Yagura was not Madara

[kiros23]

Where is the birthplace of akatsuki? and who influenced/controlled the 4th mizukage?

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Who is this akatsuki founder/leader that controlled yagura the 4th mizukage? this leader can read the flow of this era.

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What era this leader make his 1st move? (read what obito said in the middle panel)
Obito laughs and said that madara came from faraway era... do you know how long is faraway era? can madara still move in the era of yagura the 4th mizukage?

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Can he really move? NO he will die right away....

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Therefore, imo it is obito who can read the flow of this era, the one who created the akatsuki and controlled the 4th mizukage...
If you have other opinion feel free to share it...

 

[narutorikudoumode]

i looked like madara and he had the same stance as him i'm going with madara

 

[Cosmic Path]

He controlled the 4 mizukage!!

 

[kiros23]

He controlled the 4 mizukage!!

thnx for your correction..=)

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

i looked like madara and he had the same stance as him i'm going with madara

What looked like Madara??? If you are talking about when he revealed himself with Yagura to Kisame it was def Obito because when he revelaed his self again Kisame immediately recognized him. Also this thread has been made alot please search before posting another one. other than that I thought it was pretty obvious who controlled the Akatsuki WTH

 

[KidGamer65]

i looked like madara and he had the same stance as him i'm going with madara

Except for the fact Madara was on life support by the time this happened and Kisame recognized Long haired masked man as the current masked man.

 

[gameove]

it could of been genjustu that tobi put on him

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

It was obito

 

[AnimusOra]

Im sure it was Obito that Kisame saw. He recognized very easily. Now im prettt sure half of your face scarred will be easy to recognize dont you think?

 

[th1s1guysays]

This is nonsense.

Why are people creating more theories and conpiracys than whats actually going on?

This thresd has been made multiple times and yet more people keep spamming this.

1.Obito established akatsuki

2. Madara gave the rinnegan to Nagato.

3. Obito made Nagato incharge of the akatsuki while he actually pulled the strings.

4. Obito took the role of Madara and basically re-incarnated himself in his image.

5. He grew his hair out then cut it.

6. He manipulated Yagura of the Mist and established the akatsuki headquarters at the mist.

 

[fmfreak]

how can kisame look at obito and say madara-san??
simple, henge no jutsu!!!

 

[kiros23]

5. He grew his hair out then cut it.

How do you know that he grew his hair out then cut his hair? lets wait for the next chapters how obito managed to act like madara..

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see the hair of above pic?

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[Bigfoot34501]

Ok the is incorrect, the timeline simply wouldn't add up if Obito was the one who did all of these things. IMO:

1. Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan

2. Madara started the original Akatsuki that was a bunch of revolutionaries

3. Madara was the first one who controlled Yagura and started the reign of the Bloody Mist. It ended with Zabuza around 3 years before Madara found Obito

4. Obito attacked Konoha with the Nine Tails

5. Obito then took over the Mist himself and was the one who met Kisame

6. Obito also secretly took over the Akatsuki and operated it through Nagato

Obito simply couldn't have been the one who started the Akatsuki and the Bloody Mist, he was too young or not alive at the time of those events

 

[kiros23]

Ok the is incorrect, the timeline simply wouldn't add up if Obito was the one who did all of these things. IMO:

1. Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan

2. Madara started the original Akatsuki that was a bunch of revolutionaries

3. Madara was the first one who controlled Yagura and started the reign of the Bloody Mist. It ended with Zabuza around 3 years before Madara found Obito

4. Obito attacked Konoha with the Nine Tails

5. Obito then took over the Mist himself and was the one who met Kisame

6. Obito also secretly took over the Akatsuki and operated it through Nagato

Obito simply couldn't have been the one who started the Akatsuki and the Bloody Mist, he was too young or not alive at the time of those events

possible...

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

Ok the is incorrect, the timeline simply wouldn't add up if Obito was the one who did all of these things. IMO:

1. Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan

2. Madara started the original Akatsuki that was a bunch of revolutionaries

3. Madara was the first one who controlled Yagura and started the reign of the Bloody Mist. It ended with Zabuza around 3 years before Madara found Obito

4. Obito attacked Konoha with the Nine Tails

5. Obito then took over the Mist himself and was the one who met Kisame

6. Obito also secretly took over the Akatsuki and operated it through Nagato

Obito simply couldn't have been the one who started the Akatsuki and the Bloody Mist, he was too young or not alive at the time of those events

There is no way that madara was the one contolling the 4th Mizukage he just said it himself in the last chapter he couldn't leave where he was at becasue he would die

:flaw: :flaw: :flaw: :flaw:

 

[th1s1guysays]

Ok the is incorrect, the timeline simply wouldn't add up if Obito was the one who did all of these things. IMO:

1. Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan

2. Madara started the original Akatsuki that was a bunch of revolutionaries

3. Madara was the first one who controlled Yagura and started the reign of the Bloody Mist. It ended with Zabuza around 3 years before Madara found Obito

4. Obito attacked Konoha with the Nine Tails

5. Obito then took over the Mist himself and was the one who met Kisame

6. Obito also secretly took over the Akatsuki and operated it through Nagato

Obito simply couldn't have been the one who started the Akatsuki and the Bloody Mist, he was too young or not alive at the time of those events

2. Lmao!!!! Where the hell does it state he formed the original Akatsuki?! OBITO DID! Obito Re-invented himself as Madara! Get your fact's straight man. He was long gone when the akatsuki era began.

3. OBITO controlled Yagura. Again, Refer to statement #2.

5. Okay, so Madara show's his face to kisame then all of a sudden show's it again and It's the same face. Like that all makes sense to you right? You should know that if He showed his face back than with long hair, obviously it would be him with short hair OBITO

6. IT WAS OBITO TO BEGIN WITH! Nagato was a baby when Madara gave him those eye's. When he met obito he's an old man confined in an underground tunnel with cables stuck to him. How do you define that increased aged gap?

What the hell are you even talking about? I feel you're trolling to the max. Especially on your closing statement.:flaw:

Why can't people understand that Obito took on the personality of two individuals? Him and Madara. The man had one mission and that was the Moon Eye Plan that brain washed Obito. Chances are he believed he was Madara so much, that he actually felt like it. I also highly doubt he had any plans on bringing him back. Otherwise, that could've been fulfilled LONG TIME AGO. Before Nagato decided to even attack Konoha.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Its obvious that all the masked men were Obito now, dont listen to what anyone else says.

 

[TobiOrNotTobi]

Its obvious that all the masked men were Obito now, dont listen to what anyone else says.

How wrong you are but we will see.

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

How wrong you are but we will see.

How could Madara have possibly been any of the masked men as we see him when Obito is hurt Madara is very old almost dying and cannot leave the Mazou without dying.
So who's wrong again??????

I smell a troll

 

[LolaxXx]

It was Obito...wth..There were NO two mased men, long hair short hair, dont matter.
Chouji, Ino, and Hinata, all grew their hair super long over the course of three years. If they can, so could Obito.
Just accept it.