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Without ET army Kabuto is doomed against Naruto. One TBB and fight is over.
good thing he has it then. if your restricting ET, i should restrict kurama

In the same moment Obito would try to grab Hashirama, he could counter with his Wood jutsu already set up because Obito would be in Hashirama's area.
hashirama has no speed or reaction feats

Shikamaru always defeats his enemies
hes never defeated anyone 1 vs 1 except hidan which was because of pre existing prep time and intel via surviving a previous clash with his jutsu. without the konoha reinforcements shika and everyone would have been massacred by hidan

Human Path & Gedo Mazo would be able to stop ET
human path only would work if the rinnegan user is fast. gedo is useless as it cripples the user

Madara could also place Kabuto under Genjutsu and get him to undo ET
kabuto proved hes immune to this basic strategy. someone trying this is the first thing kabuto would guard against
 

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absolute imbecile. how does hashirama EVER beat madara with his current feats, same with kabuto and obito and mu?

If your having trouble counting, Hashirama is #2 and Madara is #1 :rolleyes: ..

Contract Seal and ET army becomes useless and without it Kabuto has no chance against Hashirama. & can also aid in dealing with ET army.

With Obito, quoted from earlier post: "Obito's S/T weakness is when he becomes tangible to attack, so Hashirama could aim for that moment like Minato did and how Yamato was saying in that he made that space his territory in order to counter his jutsu. Hashirama could make a forest that would be his territory to help aid in that; & , unlike Yamato where he only created that small space."

so edo tensei hashirama doesnt warrant top 10 even though you have the ****ing mortal version?

Guy can you read? he said Orochimaru not Hashirama :sy: & No, Orochimaru doesn't rank top 10 IMO

no one has called him the strongest. literally no one except fodders who admired him as such because of bijuu control.he has no feats, and his only fight was absolutely pathetic and embarassing

Kabuto, the guy you defend so hard must be a fodder then & he's been praised as the strongest numerous times :rolleyes: & defeating Kurama & Madara isn't pathetic & embarrassing, name someone else who did that? I'll wait...

no he didnt. he NEVER beat kurama. ever. mito did.

According to the Manga, Hashirama defeated Kurama 1st and then she sealed Kurama within herself 2nd to better aid him.

jiraitya has never said this. he said a genisu like minato hasnt shown up again since his death

1st two sentences under abilities section. "According to Jiraiya, Minato was one of the most gifted shinobi who ever lived and was also believed to be one of the strongest shinobi that ever existed."

why would he make top 10? hes fukin featless

Accoring to Manga, he's on another level then the rest of all Shinobi amd his feats are that he defeated Madara & Kurama & saved Konoha, helped build Konoha and has one of the strongest Kekkei Genkai; Wood Release.

one or two edos. but not an army

Thats your opinion

no he didnt.he proclaimed himself invincible and closer than anyone to sage of six paths currently.



he recounted a legend. that doesnt mean hes right. he hasnt fought hashirama, how would he know?

It doesn't mean he's wrong either, him and numerous other shinobi gave praise as well.

madara as an edo is just an experiment, not real alive madara.

Nadara awakened Rinnegan before his death, he had Hashirama's DNA before his death, Kabuto didn't create his power, it was already his as stated by Madara himself.

him and hashirama arent said to be strongest period. sage of six paths is.

Madara & Hashirama are considered the strongest as well according to Manga, not on SO6P's level.

but hashirama has no speed feats or sensing abilities or ANYTHING thatd allow him to hit obito in that instant

He doesn't have to speed feats, quoted from earlier post: "Obito's S/T weakness is when he becomes tangible to attack, so Hashirama could aim for that moment like Minato did and how Yamato was saying in that he made that space his territory in order to counter his jutsu. Hashirama could make a forest that would be his territory to help aid in that; & , unlike Yamato where he only created that small space."

hashirama has no speed or reaction feats

- "By generating chakra, the user manoeuvres it as they see fit for attack and defence; and furthermore, this omnipotent technique even allows them to capture the enemy at the same time. With their tremendous life force, the trees can pierce through earthen walls, and extend their branches at their prey in an instant."

hes never defeated anyone 1 vs 1 except hidan which was because of pre existing prep time and intel via surviving a previous clash with his jutsu. without the konoha reinforcements shika and everyone would have been massacred by hidan

But who won? he planned the whole situation out.

human path only would work if the rinnegan user is fast. gedo is useless as it cripples the user

Please link me proof where it says that. Also, Gedo Mazo is far from useless, it has it's drawbacks but still highly effective and can 1 shot multiple people.

kabuto proved hes immune to this basic strategy. someone trying this is the first thing kabuto would guard against

Thats why it worked for Itachi right? hmm. Itachi could have caught Kabuto in a Genjutsu from the beginning, plot made it so that he didn't & prolonged the fight and Madara could do the same. Evidence:
 

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Good list OP imo.
 

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Contract Seal and ET army becomes useless and without it Kabuto has no chance against Hashirama
contract seal is only posssesed by one person in the entire manga and it isnt hashirama. why wouldnt he have a chance without it? muki tensei controls the battlefield whereas hashi can only control how much wood he makes. useless if hes killed before he can make enough of it to be effective. kabutos immune to physical damage, and has kimimaros bone forest as well as genjutsu. as a fellow medic its stated he can sense the intent of people from the same field. so hashirama cant get him off guard and he can see through hashiramas attack

Wood Release Secret Technique: Nativity of a World of Trees & Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees can also aid in dealing with ET army.
imagine that but in edo mu's hands. not to mention if mu can make himself fly with the weight lightenning jutsu he taught to onoki he should be able to do the oppposite and make the forest weigh so much that hashirmaa cant even move it let alone knock muu down into the flowers. muki tensei turns the ground into quicksand or opens up a fissure. the forest vanishes into an abyss.

Guy can you read? he said Orochimaru not Hashirama & No, Orochimaru doesn't rank top 10 IMO
guy can you read? orochimaru can summon hashirama. how does he plan to beat a stronger more invincible version of himself plus oro? this is sort of like putting fukasaku above jiraiya. he cant beat himslef and jiraiya. so no one does so.

Kabuto, the guy you defend so hard must be a fodder then & he's been praised as the strongest
who praised kabuto? the only person whos acknowledged that kabuto may just be too strong is itachi who personally fought him. sasuke stated they are close to defeat unless they fight all out

defeating Kurama & Madara isn't pathetic & embarrassing
good thing hashi didnt do it then. mito defeated kurama. and madara escaped with his life and a portion of hashirama's. he got rinnegan after losing kurama. a fair trade off right?

Nadara awakened Rinnegan before his death, he had Hashirama's DNA before his death
but not as much as what kabuto had given him. theres a reason why kabuto had to make him better than his prime. that includes giving him hashirama face on his chest. madara commented that kabuto prepared him well because of this

By generating chakra, the user manoeuvres it as they see fit for attack and defence; and furthermore, this omnipotent technique even allows them to capture the enemy at the same time. With their tremendous life force, the trees can pierce through earthen walls, and extend their branches at their prey in an instant."
i repeat no speed feats. show me hashirama moving fast or having a fast reaction to an attack please.

Please link me proof where it says that.
it doesnt. read nagato vs hanzo. the gedo sticks chakra rods into the user to enable soul removing dragon

Thats why it worked for Itachi right?
it didnt. he resorted to izanami which is a genjutsu not relying on eyesight and useless unless your an edo tensei as you pretty much gotta die twice

, plot made it so that he didn't
..oh PLOT. of course. cant be that itachi is incompetant or that kabuto had already closed off his vision...no...
 

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contract seal is only posssesed by one person in the entire manga and it isnt hashirama. why wouldnt he have a chance without it? muki tensei controls the battlefield whereas hashi can only control how much wood he makes. useless if hes killed before he can make enough of it to be effective. kabutos immune to physical damage, and has kimimaros bone forest as well as genjutsu. as a fellow medic its stated he can sense the intent of people from the same field. so hashirama cant get him off guard and he can see through hashiramas attack

Alright being that it says "Anime Only" for Hashirama being able to use Contract Seal, I'll disregard that & correction, Hashirama's Wood Release controls the battlefield as he could make an entire forest within seconds and combined in the forest, his Flower World & Kabuto can't avoid that based on what we've seen. Hashirama's also immune to damage, on a far better scale then Kabuto is, & Kabuto can't see through attacks, his perception is increased, he doesn't have the Sharingan.

imagine that but in edo mu's hands. not to mention if mu can make himself fly with the weight lightenning jutsu he taught to onoki he should be able to do the oppposite and make the forest weigh so much that hashirmaa cant even move it let alone knock muu down into the flowers. muki tensei turns the ground into quicksand or opens up a fissure. the forest vanishes into an abyss.

& Hashirama can create an entire new forest with Flower World instantly, Kabuto's Muki Tensei doesn't compare to Hashirama's Wood Release.

guy can you read? orochimaru can summon hashirama. how does he plan to beat a stronger more invincible version of himself plus oro? this is sort of like putting fukasaku above jiraiya. he cant beat himslef and jiraiya. so no one does so.

Apparently I can and if you could read the Manga correctly you would know this, how could Orochimaru summon Hashirama if he's sealed with in Hiruzen? Edo Hashirama doesn't exist anymore.

who praised kabuto? the only person whos acknowledged that kabuto may just be too strong is itachi who personally fought him. sasuke stated they are close to defeat unless they fight all out

When I said "he" I was referring to Hashirama, if you continued to read you would have figured that out. Hashirama has be praised by the Manga, Kishimoto, Kabuto, Madara, Obito, etc.

good thing hashi didnt do it then. mito defeated kurama. and madara escaped with his life and a portion of hashirama's. he got rinnegan after losing kurama. a fair trade off right?

Manga says otherwise and Manga > your opinion.

but not as much as what kabuto had given him. theres a reason why kabuto had to make him better than his prime. that includes giving him hashirama face on his chest. madara commented that kabuto prepared him well because of this

Madara already had Hashirama's DNA prior to him being resurrected into Edo form & he already awakened the Rinnegan before his death.

i repeat no speed feats. show me hashirama moving fast or having a fast reaction to an attack please.

Again, he hasn't shown such but I posted his Wood Release technique with description. Here's & of his Wood Release being able to instantly take form and capture an enemy.

it doesnt. read nagato vs hanzo. the gedo sticks chakra rods into the user to enable soul removing dragon

Alright so you have no proof that Human Path takes souls slowly, but as you can see & it was quite fast, and like I said Gedo Mazo has its draw backs but still highly effective, &

it didnt. he resorted to izanami which is a genjutsu not relying on eyesight and useless unless your an edo tensei as you pretty much gotta die twice

Manga shows it worked and you don't have to be an Edo to avoid attacks and replicate the situation twice.

..oh PLOT. of course. cant be that itachi is incompetant or that kabuto had already closed off his vision...no...

Yes plot, I gave of clear eye contact & that battle could have ended before it even started.
 

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Yes plot, I gave Evidence of clear eye contact
no you gave evidence itachis an idiot. not plot. plot is an excuse used by fanboys to justify CIS or their favourites sucking
Hashirama can create an entire new forest with Flower World instantly
not once has he ever done this. not once did he ever make anything instantly. even his genjutsu needed seals. guess whos faster than seals?
abuto's Muki Tensei doesn't compare to Hashirama's Wood Release.
muki tensei controls anything not living and controlled a whole cave instantly. hashirama made a few branches over the course of several panels vs hiruzen
he could make an entire forest within seconds
no he cant. not once has he ever demonstrated this and not once will he ever. he had his chance to in part 1 and failed. sorry but true.
Hashirama's also immune to damage, on a far better scale then Kabuto is
you have no way of knowing this. hashirama literally has no feats regarding durability or perception. all we know is word of mouth and thats nowhere NEAR enough for me and it shouldnt be for you. from hype hiruzen knows every konoha jutsu. wouldnt that include his teacher's techs? so by that same word of mouth, hiruzen prime is invincible.
kabuto has shown scale at least. hashiramas shown literally nothing.
abuto can't see through attacks, his perception is increased, he doesn't have the Sharingan.
naruto said sage mode enables him to sense danger and enable him to see attacks coming faster than you would normally. hashirama doesnt and will never dodge a susano arrow.
how could Orochimaru summon Hashirama if he's sealed with in Hiruzen? Edo Hashirama doesn't exist anymore.
orochimaru prime would have him right? you wouldnt say "oh but third kazekage was destroyed, sasori cant use him!" every naruto fan knows you dont do that to poor sasori. you take him from his actual prime unless the timelines specified in the OP
Manga says otherwise
no it doesnt
Again, he hasn't shown such
and wont. so therefore kabuto absolutely speedblitzes him and cuts him in half
 

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danzo on a top 10 list? thats a first
 

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my top 10 would be:

1. hashi - the one to be able to go against madara and the nine tailed fox and come off the winner
2. madara - was the rival to hashi and has wooped the 5 kages
3. minato - its hard to make a gd estimate of his strength but in naruto intelligence and speed>pure power.. was also known as legendary and ninja were told to flee on sight
4. obito - i think we all know why here lol
5 itachi - he's a beast and is very intelligent ( had trouble thinking if he should be 4th )
6. nagato - rinnegan makes him beast and he is also very intelligent
7. naruto - we all know why
8 kabutomaru - sage mode + many different abilities
9. bee - perfect jinchurikee
10 sasuke - i put him 10th as we dont know his true strength

this would be my top ten :)

I don't even have to write my top ten list. This is EXACTLY what it would be lol.
 

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no you gave evidence itachis an idiot. not plot. plot is an excuse used by fanboys to justify CIS or their favourites sucking

I didn't give evidence of Itachi and Kabuto making direct eye contact? Had Itachi caught Kabuto in a genjutsu, it would have been over from the beginning and it was plot because Kishimoto wanted to show what Kabuto can do in battle with his current abilities.

not once has he ever done this. not once did he ever make anything instantly. even his genjutsu needed seals. guess whos faster than seals?
muki tensei controls anything not living and controlled a whole cave instantly. hashirama made a few branches over the course of several panels vs hiruzen

He displayed it against Hiruzen as an Edo, before Hiruzen can even react he was already trapped by Hashirama's Wood Release & the only person faster then seals is Mifune. A few branches? he created an entire forest far from a "few branches"

no he cant. not once has he ever demonstrated this and not once will he ever. he had his chance to in part 1 and failed. sorry but true.

What does look like?

you have no way of knowing this. hashirama literally has no feats regarding durability or perception. all we know is word of mouth and thats nowhere NEAR enough for me and it shouldnt be for you. from hype hiruzen knows every konoha jutsu. wouldnt that include his teacher's techs? so by that same word of mouth, hiruzen prime is invincible.
kabuto has shown scale at least. hashiramas shown literally nothing.

He's dead and hasn't been shown in the Manga/Anime since Part 1, so how could he show any of his abilities now? According to Madara, Hashirama possessed the same as Tsunade but on a far higher level then her (Manga stated it so that's good enough for me), making him immune to all types of damage far greater then Kabuto's ability.

naruto said sage mode enables him to sense danger and enable him to see attacks coming faster than you would normally. hashirama doesnt and will never dodge a susano arrow.

Yes SM boosts your perceptual ability along with other things, but it doesn't allow you to see through people's attacks. show proof where it says that for SM & Hashirama could use his Wood Release to deflect a Susanoo Arrow like Danzo did.

orochimaru prime would have him right? you wouldnt say "oh but third kazekage was destroyed, sasori cant use him!" every naruto fan knows you dont do that to poor sasori. you take him from his actual prime unless the timelines specified in the OP

lol so by that, he would have the 1st, 2nd, and 4th and so would Kabuto because they worked together and Kabuto has Orochimaru's Edo Madara, meaning he took DNA from Orochimaru's lab and made it his own for his Edo.

no it doesnt

According to the Manga, Hashirama defeated Madara + Kurama. Show proof that he didnt.

and wont. so therefore kabuto absolutely speedblitzes him and cuts him in half

That's your speculation, not fact.
 

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People don't want to admit that Kabuto was the most complete character without some god-given eyes that he didn't earn, and got his skill and ability through talent and his own means.

Kabuto is all but fodder without oros power inside him... he wont be able to use sage mode, nor edo tensei on the scale he did before. He is a good medical nin, and may be decent in combat; somewhere around Neji`s level id say.
 

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danzo on a top 10 list? thats a first

Yup a lot of people heavily underestimate Danzo, KA & Izanagi for 10 minutes beats a lot of people in Naruto.

Kabuto is all but fodder without oros power inside him... he wont be able to use sage mode, nor edo tensei on the scale he did before. He is a good medical nin, and may be decent in combat; somewhere around Neji`s level id say.

I wouldn't say Neji's level lol, he still has his other abilities he got from the other shinobi's DNA, I'd say he's still around Kakashi's level maybe
 

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I would say Sakura chan and, i will be proud to be the first one who choice her from your poll :blush:
 

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I personally have to say top ninjas and the ones who worked for it, not the ones who were given a tailed beast or some form of DNA boost. For one, Rock Lee has gotta be on my Top Ninja's for becoming very powerful with only one skill. Orochimaru for becoming very powerful and for achiving imperfect immortality as I call it and I appluad Shikamaru's brains. I'm not a fan of Shadow Jutsu and seeing how it isn't a bloodline limit, just a Nipdo or whatever you call them, but the way he uses them in contrast to his intelligance earns him a place on my top three Ninja. Come to think of it, they would make a very good team. Rock lee for close range, orochimaru for mid-range, Shika for long range and then finally, throw in a medical ninja, I'll choose Sakura. Simply because at a young age she has perfected inhuman strength and has high medical powers. Plus she killed one of my top three Akatsukis DX
 

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I multi-voted since I have a hard time picking the #1 top ninja. Obviously Naruto and Sasuke are/will be at the top when everything is said and done.

That said, I can't ignore Minato, Itachi, Nagato, Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Obito, Danzo, Muu, Oonoki, Kakashi, Gai, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Kabuto (well, the enhanced one), Kisame, Bee, and Deidara.

Why? Because many of them have their own hax jutsu (and, therefore, a rabid fanboy following xd) and are pretty freaking awesome.
 

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Gaara is easily a top ninja, people just don't know what he is capable of. He actually has no limits to what he can do with sand.
 

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I personally have to say top ninjas and the ones who worked for it, not the ones who were given a tailed beast or some form of DNA boost. For one, Rock Lee has gotta be on my Top Ninja's for becoming very powerful with only one skill. Orochimaru for becoming very powerful and for achiving imperfect immortality as I call it and I appluad Shikamaru's brains. I'm not a fan of Shadow Jutsu and seeing how it isn't a bloodline limit, just a Nipdo or whatever you call them, but the way he uses them in contrast to his intelligance earns him a place on my top three Ninja. Come to think of it, they would make a very good team. Rock lee for close range, orochimaru for mid-range, Shika for long range and then finally, throw in a medical ninja, I'll choose Sakura. Simply because at a young age she has perfected inhuman strength and has high medical powers. Plus she killed one of my top three Akatsukis DX
Chiyo killed sasori not sakura.
 

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Lord Kakashi
 

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Kakashi is awesome. Awesomely awesome. Kakashi ftw. U_U
He's cool, he's strong. He has a history, he's cool. He has the Sharingan. Did I mention the cool part?
 

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Minato: there is no limit to how awesome Minato is and how strong he is.
Sasuke: Sasuke is by far one of the greatest Shinobi and you got to like his attitude and his fighting style...Sasuke is one of those Shinobi who aren't afraid to fight even up against the 5 Kages at the same time.
Oro; you can't get enough of this guy and his twisted ways of thinking.
 
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