[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

[kimberxko]

This is my prediction about manga chapter 603; here is go:
That oldman (Madara) trains Obito about his revolition a couple of years. Then Madara wishes something from Obito that very hard to do!
Madara:'' I think thats enough for a while, kid... Please kill me now and then bring me to life with Pain's rinnegan.'' After that scene Obito kills old Madara and then he goes to take some Ninetails from Konoha...
I mean maybe like this...

 

[-Punk-]

Ive been saying this for a while. Cause the way I see it. Tell me how exactly did yamato make the zetsu clones stronger? U cant. There is nothing to compare his previous strength to. They died so easily. That's what made me think that the reason kishi made up that reason was to confuse the reader and make them believe that. When in truth if he decides to use yamato it'll be in a big way. Seeing he is a clone of the 1st. Him being put right next to the 1st clone. The one that tobi said is alive but with no mind. Would enhance yamato to new heights. Making him a key figure to beating Edo madara. But even if he isn't used for the rest of the arc. He can still be used for the next arc as another power house. Which I believe will be the Uzamaki arc. Either way I don't think kishi put yamato in that tree to boost those zetsu clones. I feel its for something much much bigger.

Raiden this was a post replying to ur comment on the last page. For some reason. I can't directly quote ur post.

I could see that happening , yamato could fuse with his powers just like the zetzus did with him, perhaps if anko ever wakes up she could help him get out or maybe part of the alliance are going to help him , you know the fodders.

 

[Tayhlor Uchiha]

this chapter has given so much info !! and for you madara haters thinking that hashirama ****ed up madara , madara lost on purpose to hashirama to get some of his cells , and create zetsu , and we now know that uchiha cant unlock the rinnegan themselves ! madara's eyes turned into rinnegan's after being put into a boy with senju dna !! NAGATO UZUMAKI , uchiha cant unlock the rinnegan by themselves ! and no to all of you madara haters , madara is in that state cos hes in his what , 80;s ?

 

[Amatiq]

this chapter has given so much info !! and for you madara haters thinking that hashirama ****ed up madara , madara lost on purpose to hashirama to get some of his cells , and create zetsu , and we now know that uchiha cant unlock the rinnegan themselves ! madara's eyes turned into rinnegan's after being put into a boy with senju dna !! NAGATO UZUMAKI , uchiha cant unlock the rinnegan by themselves ! and no to all of you madara haters , madara is in that state cos hes in his what , 80;s ?

LOL 80's their have been 6 hokages (Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Tsunade, Danzo and 4 of them are dead and 2 of them he was around their age i think he is probably 100+ atleast mayb 150?

 

[jafz03]

So this pretty much proves that Madara created Zetsu?

white zetsus yes but the black one dunno. we don't know when he/it first appeared; plus he might have been the one who gave madara's eyes to nagato considering the time plot

 

[Some1witSomethin 2 pRoVe]

Hmmmmmm Pretty good chapter. Glad to see most, if not all, of my predictions to date being accurate. I still have some farfetched theories that I've been hassled about, The main one being my ultimate theory of Sasuke being the next Hokage I know its a wild Idea, and some 12 year old Naruto Fanboy will most likely jump down my throat about it, but its a sound theory, if I ever care to share it again.

But we wont push too far ahead just yet. Based off of the past few chapters, I have a few conclusions, and a couple of theories...

1. Ask yourselves...Wasn't Obito's entire right side crushed? Why, then, does he still have a right eye? I submit to you: That is one of Madara's eyes. A gift, as it were, to a budding, young Uchiha. Madara comments that Obito must "repay the debt." I don't think he's just talking about healing Obito's body.

2. As for that eye...It would soundly explain the major jump in Obito't chakra/power level, and Jutsu. We know that it its possible to transfer occular jutsu and chakra via the eyes (i.e. Madara/Izuna and Itachi/Sasuke).

3. Obito said he is a former shell of himself... I wonder if this statement mean that he believes by working with Madara, he can somehow get his entire body back (What up Full Metal?! lol). His right side is obviously part-zetsu. You can tell this by the swirl on his face, compared to the swirl on the Zetsu/1st tree. I also believe that he is being directly influenced by that right eye of his...Madara's eye.

4. If that Is not Madara, It can only mean Its Izuna. Izuna and Madara always were close...close to the point that Izuna gave his brother his eyes in order for Madara to "Go on". If Madara/Inzuna entrusted someone with their "original" eyes, and replaced them with spares, then who did the spares belong to? I'll come back with a theory when I'ved pondered a bit more...

5. Who did Madara entrust with his original eyes? ..... Inzuna entrusted Madara with them, for sure. But if that old man is Madara, then who did he give his to? Many think it was the Senju (Uzumaki) Negato, which gave him the rinnigan..(which who validate the statement that Obito/Madara "gave" Nagato his rinnigan) Well, how well did Nagato know Madara for him to be "trusted" with his eyes? Good friends? (Pedo alert...obitos the next victim! Take care of those Lower parts young man, and you'll get eyes in return lol)

Well I guess thats all for now.... What are your thougts on these things, Narutobase? And remember, you heard it here first...Sasuke will be the next Hokage! Believe It!



Joke: * Madara with the Old Pedo man from Family Guy Voice* "You like Sharingans? Well I got a whole cellar full of sharingans....mmmm Get yo crushed ass back here...) Ha!

 

[Some1witSomethin 2 pRoVe]

Ive been saying this for a while. Cause the way I see it. Tell me how exactly did yamato make the zetsu clones stronger? U cant. There is nothing to compare his previous strength to. They died so easily. That's what made me think that the reason kishi made up that reason was to confuse the reader and make them believe that. When in truth if he decides to use yamato it'll be in a big way. Seeing he is a clone of the 1st. Him being put right next to the 1st clone. The one that tobi said is alive but with no mind. Would enhance yamato to new heights. Making him a key figure to beating Edo madara. But even if he isn't used for the rest of the arc. He can still be used for the next arc as another power house. Which I believe will be the Uzamaki arc. Either way I don't think kishi put yamato in that tree to boost those zetsu clones. I feel its for something much much bigger.

Raiden this was a post replying to ur comment on the last page. For some reason. I can't directly quote ur post.

Maybe he meant that he could make Zetsu stronger by making a massive amount of them, and giving them the ability to use Mokuton.

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Sakura comments that while they are physically weaker, these new zetsus differ from the one at the Kage summit. Mokuton is definitely a a very powerful release..so this would be a good powerup. So I suppose you'll have to compare these new Zetsu to the ones at and before the Kage Summit/Killer Bee n Raikage vs Kisame fight.

 

[saskanaru]

YEAH IT REALLY IS A MIRACLE that he survived it just goes to show how strong the first hokage was {but it also shows that how brillent madara really is as the top member of the uchiha clan

 

[Naru2GT]

this chapter has given so much info !! and for you madara haters thinking that hashirama ****ed up madara , madara lost on purpose to hashirama to get some of his cells , and create zetsu , and we now know that uchiha cant unlock the rinnegan themselves ! madara's eyes turned into rinnegan's after being put into a boy with senju dna !! NAGATO UZUMAKI , uchiha cant unlock the rinnegan by themselves ! and no to all of you madara haters , madara is in that state cos hes in his what , 80;s ?

Why would you pretend to lose? Why not win and get his (Hashi) cells? I think Madara lost, but who knows until we see what actually happened after the fight.

 

[Lambi]

this chapter has given so much info !! and for you madara haters thinking that hashirama ****ed up madara , madara lost on purpose to hashirama to get some of his cells , and create zetsu , and we now know that uchiha cant unlock the rinnegan themselves ! madara's eyes turned into rinnegan's after being put into a boy with senju dna !! NAGATO UZUMAKI , uchiha cant unlock the rinnegan by themselves ! and no to all of you madara haters , madara is in that state cos hes in his what , 80;s ?

Or he could have just defeated him and taken his DNA? You think it was his plan to get his ass kicked and with some luck get hold of the DNA?

 

[MinatoNamikaze25]

i really cant wait to see how obito turned into this second idol (tobi). because yes i couldnt seeing him turn so evil like this especially since he really is like naruto so how or what influenced him to be this evil i think it has something to do with rin and madara but i cant wait til we actually see cause its gotta be a real big issue to turn him like he is now

 

[KANGOLNY]

Old man Madara is really "Steve Jobs" and the "Moon's Eye Plan" is really the IPHONE 5!!!!!! J/K!!!

 

[SharRinnegan]

There are some things i need to point out .
During minato fight with obito when he injured him there is blood comming out of his left arm along with white staff the anime made a mistake there showing only white stuff that but it is clear in manga with dark color it is blood.
Obito growth might not be a factor here b/c we havent actually match kakashi height with minato 16 years ago so we cannot sure whether it is natural or result of hashirama dna.
Obito used to lie quite a lot way back to his teacher and kakashi perhaps that is why he is such a good liar taking credit for every thing madara does.
Who itachi saw was indeed obito with log hairs b/c itachi thought he might know who he is b/c of how he sneaks (Madara could not do that b/c he was tied or probably dead) in and out it is also verified by kisame flasback when a similar person is shown with view of single right eye.
It was indeed obito who attacked konoha but in control of madara The way kyyubi reacts to him after seeing him as "you" because it senses madara presence also when did obito made a contract with kyyubi when it was sealed off it was done by madara.Also he praises minato to defeat him in single move calling him "deserved to be hokage" which usually obito donot.

 

[Prefontaine]

Flashback equals the end of the character of the flashback...goodbye Obito! Decent chapter

 

[sasukefreako]

Chapter was good well all i can say poor obito Read 603 predictions

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[B00m]

Hmmm, it would seem, then, that Oro, indeed, created the Edo Madara we see today; i.e., Oro performed the Edo ritual and prepared the summoning, and Kabuto is just using Oro's creation. That would seem to explain why Kabuto asked Madara whether he survived his battle with Hashirama. Kabuto really didn't know since he had never seen old Madara's body. The question, then, is why didn't Oro use Edo Madara himself? Perhaps he knew Madara would be capable of breaking free from the Edo contract, and wasn't so careless as to let an uncontrollable, invincible Madara roam freely. Just guessing.

I wouldn't doubt that Oro would be cautious of Madara's abilities, so it could be just that. Another possibility is just timing or lack of power/intel. Or he simply just was never desperate enough to use him. Oro also had some bad luck which probably never allowed him to use it; gets his arms sealed by the DR, gets reversed mind transfered by Sasuke in his weaken condition, then finally gets sealed by Itachi's Susanoo. Even after all that he is now walking around using his hands, got to love it.

I'm always amazed how much Oro was in head of everyone with his knowledge and jutsus. If he would of gotten Sasuke's body like the creepy pedo he is, he could of easily became current Madara status. Maybe not on par, but close.

 

[TobiOrNotTobi]

There are some things i need to point out .
During minato fight with obito when he injured him there is blood comming out of his left arm along with white staff the anime made a mistake there showing only white stuff that but it is clear in manga with dark color it is blood.
Obito growth might not be a factor here b/c we havent actually match kakashi height with minato 16 years ago so we cannot sure whether it is natural or result of hashirama dna.
Obito used to lie quite a lot way back to his teacher and kakashi perhaps that is why he is such a good liar taking credit for every thing madara does.
Who itachi saw was indeed obito with log hairs b/c itachi thought he might know who he is b/c of how he sneaks (Madara could not do that b/c he was tied or probably dead) in and out it is also verified by kisame flasback when a similar person is shown with view of single right eye.
It was indeed obito who attacked konoha but in control of madara The way kyyubi reacts to him after seeing him as "you" because it senses madara presence also when did obito made a contract with kyyubi when it was sealed off it was done by madara.Also he praises minato to defeat him in single move calling him "deserved to be hokage" which usually obito donot.

It was NOT a mistake.

Madara said both can't leave that place with their current bodys, that means Obito could not leave in the state he was in, now pay attention to page 15, the Zetsu on the right looks more like a Zetsu-Suit to me (there is a hole on the left arm side and probably also for the legs as well). Obito is using that Zetsu-Suit = Tobi.

That explains these things

His height:
- He was about the same height as Minato, pretty much adult size, Zetsus are adult size.

Loosing his arms: (LEFT is Obitos "human" side, RIGHT is the one that got pretty much replaced with "Hashirama's DNA").
- First arm injury: His LEFT arm dripped off when Minato hit him with a Rasengan, Zetsu Goo AND blood came out of that sleeve = Obitos left side = Human.
- Second arm inury: He ripped his RIGHT arm off after it got infected by Torune, that was just Zetsu Goo = Obitos right side = Hashirama DNA.
- Third arm injury: He lost his RIGHT arm against Konan, it was also just Zetsu Goo = Obitos right side = Hashirama DNA.

Why his Sharingan is activated all the time:
- His right side got replaced with Hashirama DNA thus his Sharingan can't be deactivated hence it's not an Uchiha body on that side where his Sharingan is.

There you go, simple and easy no overthinking needed.

 

[wonderer]

Maybe he meant that he could make Zetsu stronger by making a massive amount of them, and giving them the ability to use Mokuton.

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Sakura comments that while they are physically weaker, these new zetsus differ from the one at the Kage summit. Mokuton is definitely a a very powerful release..so this would be a good powerup. So I suppose you'll have to compare these new Zetsu to the ones at and before the Kage Summit/Killer Bee n Raikage vs Kisame fight.

True. But what did that do for the plot? Nothing really. Kishi has shown to do things for a reason. That's why I believe there has to be more to that than just a small boost. The number of zetsus tobi made were set. So its not like the numbers were boosted. When anko was following kabuto some thought oh she's going to find the location and report it in. The reason kishi decided that was to one oboost kbuto but in truth be the key to reviving oro. We didn't expect that. Thaw how I see this. Kishi gave us an explanation to why yamato was taken out the story and placed there. But I feel that there is a hiiden truth. Another reason why besides the reason given to us on why he is in that tree. That picture of him right next to the 1st clone also make it extremely suspicious. Now there's always the chance kishi won't go that route. But I'm sure its an open idea.


Also does anyone else think that obito got stronger in a short amount of time due to madara transfering his experience into obito before he died. On top ofa the energy hst genes and the energy the tree gives allow obito to continuously train and heal rapidly so that he can gain results so much faster than anyone . Madara's 100 year experience + non stop training + rapid healing = incredible power growth. That would also explain to me how tobi could control the kuuybi, be a sharingan pro, contain knowledge before his time, can use forbidden uchiha techs, and use madaras fan.

 

[saints00025]

I wouldn't doubt that Oro would be cautious of Madara's abilities, so it could be just that. Another possibility is just timing or lack of power/intel. Or he simply just was never desperate enough to use him. Oro also had some bad luck which probably never allowed him to use it; gets his arms sealed by the DR, gets reversed mind transfered by Sasuke in his weaken condition, then finally gets sealed by Itachi's Susanoo. Even after all that he is now walking around using his hands, got to love it.

I'm always amazed how much Oro was in head of everyone with his knowledge and jutsus. If he would of gotten Sasuke's body like the creepy pedo he is, he could of easily became current Madara status. Maybe not on par, but close.

also, remember whenever Oro could use edo, it wasnt perfect. He summoned the first and second and they were basically zombies. By the time the jutsu was perfected he was either gone or unable to perform the juts

 

[UubPathnik]

There are other Uchiha in the village who were old enough and have a big enough rep to be noticed by Madara