[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 602 Discussion and 603 Predictions

[Yugito]

the chapter was alright but there was too much 'banter' useless pages devoted to crap we already knew, that sort of dialogue should just be put into the anime, seeing as how they are constantly stretching out conversation more than they need to in it.

no we didnt already know any of the things that were mentioned in this chapter! we made assumptions on what MIGHT happen but it isnt fact till its posted Kishi knows these characters personalities, skills, & story line better than any one of us can
so while its fun to make predictions there just that predictions, what we THINK might happen. it does help with understanding what is going on & to make connections with things that on ur own u might not have thought of.

 

[saints00025]

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if that doesnt show the connection between orochimaru and madara i dont know what does

 

[B00m]

Na, we are just so good with our theories and predictions that it seems like Kishi is going through the forums lol.
Im disappointed though, the way this chapter make it seem is that Obito used ST to reach Madara's liar. Like their meeting was mere coincidence and wasn't planned by Madara.

I felt the same way. It ruined their relationship kind of. But I guess things are meant to happen, but how the hell did he use a S/T tech after not even having his sharingan for a day. Sorry, that's some B.S.

Madara must needed to nag Obito to join his side, unless he actually does have something to do with Rin's death. Obito is very stubborn, much like Naruto, obviously.

 

[B00m]

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if that doesnt show the connection between orochimaru and madara i dont know what does

Holy crap. This says a lot:
"What Orochimaru-sama has created is on a completely different level from what Danzo prototyped."

-Oro created Danzo
-Kabuto is comparing Danzo himself to what Oro has created
-Oro possibly created this young Madara

Maybe this is where this scroll comes into play....

+rep for you sir

 

[Shinobi A]

Somewhat of a meaningless chapter. At least we learnt more about Madara.

Liked
- Obito still has his previous attitude.
- Learnt why Madara wasn't more active in the world.
- Seems like there will be a third player introduced.

Disliked
- Too little information and too much playing around.

Undecided
- Still not seeing how Obito will become Tobi, especially with the personality he's currently showing.

I agree with the too much playing around, i would have loved for more information to have been released in this chapter. As for your undecided, I think the loss of Rin and not being able to protect her(Kakashi keeping his promise to keep Rin alive) has a lot to do with the personality that Obito shows in his current state. So i assume that the leftover eye that Madara has, was given to tobi as a replacement of his own that was given to Kakashi. Which explains why Sauske's amaterasu was activated upon the removal of tobi's mask earlier on in the series. then i also predict that since it was confirmed that madara/the masked man was involved with the genocide of the uchiha clan, that's how he was able to have a new set of eyes. That could be what the room was where Tobi took Danzo's dead body to recover the stolen sharingan. just ideas and theories here. end rant.

 

[dywanewade]

ok, one thing i think now though is, madara is the dood sasuke wants Orochimaru to take him to!

 

[wonderer]

I have a theory on how obito got so strong so fast. When a regular shinobi trains he's limited. Why? Because he eventually runs out of chakra and his body needs time to heal to reap the benefits of his training. But photo has the ability to pass these limitations. How? The big 1st hokage gene tree. One... He has an abundance of chakra also the 1sts genes can heal u rather fast. Allowing obito to train longer and more often at a higher level. Like how naruto can train and fight at a high level so often because of the foxs healing ability. Which allowed him to rapidly get stronger as well. Mix that in with knowledge Madara could've inplanted or should I say transfered into his mind. A year worth of training like that with that knowledge can result into something incredible. As u can see. But I'm just stating this as a possibility

 

[Codex]

Holy crap. This says a lot:
"What Orochimaru-sama has created is on a completely different level from what Danzo prototyped."

-Oro created Danzo
-Kabuto is comparing Danzo himself to what Oro has created
-Oro possibly created this young Madara

Maybe this is where this scroll comes into play....

+rep for you sir

Hmmm, it would seem, then, that Oro, indeed, created the Edo Madara we see today; i.e., Oro performed the Edo ritual and prepared the summoning, and Kabuto is just using Oro's creation. That would seem to explain why Kabuto asked Madara whether he survived his battle with Hashirama. Kabuto really didn't know since he had never seen old Madara's body. The question, then, is why didn't Oro use Edo Madara himself? Perhaps he knew Madara would be capable of breaking free from the Edo contract, and wasn't so careless as to let an uncontrollable, invincible Madara roam freely. Just guessing.

 

[wonderer]

My guess. U need both eyes. Like madara said. U need both eyes to awaken the sharingans full power.

 

[jonsin19]

What if Tobi (Obito) is after Kakashi's eye? Because Madara did say you need both of them to unlock their full potential. If he's been single handedly ripping the shinobi world apart with one eye, imagine if he had both!!! He would probably be completely untouchable. Any ideas guys?

 

[wonderer]

Ive been saying this for a while. Cause the way I see it. Tell me how exactly did yamato make the zetsu clones stronger? U cant. There is nothing to compare his previous strength to. They died so easily. That's what made me think that the reason kishi made up that reason was to confuse the reader and make them believe that. When in truth if he decides to use yamato it'll be in a big way. Seeing he is a clone of the 1st. Him being put right next to the 1st clone. The one that tobi said is alive but with no mind. Would enhance yamato to new heights. Making him a key figure to beating Edo madara. But even if he isn't used for the rest of the arc. He can still be used for the next arc as another power house. Which I believe will be the Uzamaki arc. Either way I don't think kishi put yamato in that tree to boost those zetsu clones. I feel its for something much much bigger.

Raiden this was a post replying to ur comment on the last page. For some reason. I can't directly quote ur post.

 

[daviddragon]

not bad

 

[reizon]

i still cannot wrap my head around the fact that this lil punk obito was fighting on par with yondaime... and who the **** gave him the right to comment on minato that he's worthy of being a hokage... that lil.piece of shit !!

 

[Codex]

Raiden this was a post replying to ur comment on the last page. For some reason. I can't directly quote ur post.

Be sure to click "Reply with Quote" and not just "Reply." I find myself making this mistake repeatedly with the new format.

 

[shishikamo]

Great chapter. Really exciting to see things starting to unfold and slowly but surely leading up to the climax very soon. Can't get enough of it. Hope they wrap up the Obito/Madara history up until now within a few chapters so that they can get back to the fight and whatever Sasuke and Oro are up to

How cool would it be if Tobi is pulling the ultimate Itachi and is totally mind ****ing us right now? For instance, what if Obito hears Madara out and decides that Madara is going to be such a powerful threat in the future that he forgoes his identity as Obito and abandons his previous life in order to stop Madara. Like this is all a rouse in order to made everyone (including Madara and Nagato who is essentially acting as Madara's eyes in the world while he's incapacitated/dead) think that he is going along with their plan. But really he's just getting close to his enemy, slowly getting stronger and plotting against him in order to completely screw Madara over in the end. Like he summons the ten tails and uses it against Madara in order to stop him, instead of completing the moon's eye plan, making Obito the ultimate Itachi and such a hard ass. Obviously, this won't happen, but that would be so epic if it did

 

[shishikamo]

Also, Obito called Madara his ancestor... Do you think that he's saying that in the sense that he's a fellow Uchiha, or that Obito is a direct descendant from Madara? This could put a new twist in the story

 

[QuickSilver2388]

What if Tobi (Obito) is after Kakashi's eye? Because Madara did say you need both of them to unlock their full potential. If he's been single handedly ripping the shinobi world apart with one eye, imagine if he had both!!! He would probably be completely untouchable. Any ideas guys?

No u read wrong Madara was saying that u need two sharingan no that u need them to both be urs

 

[Solepedia]

So this pretty much proves that Madara created Zetsu?

 

[Solepedia]

Also, Obito called Madara his ancestor... Do you think that he's saying that in the sense that he's a fellow Uchiha, or that Obito is a direct descendant from Madara? This could put a new twist in the story

I'm pretty sure Obito is calling Madara his ancestor because he's a fellow Uchiha, Who knows thought we'll just have wait.

 

[allpinq]

i still cannot wrap my head around the fact that this lil punk obito was fighting on par with yondaime... and who the **** gave him the right to comment on minato that he's worthy of being a hokage... that lil.piece of shit !!

Tobi was not on par with Yondaime Hokage when they fought. Not even close. Tobi made a planned attack and he was quite prepared. On the other hand, Minato was not prepared at all. He had to worry about his wife, his kid, the 9-tails, the village and still owned Tobi quite easily.