Madara's "Death" and Nagato's Rinnegan.

[KidGamer65]

As we all know Madara unlocked Rinnegan shortly before he died, but its also basically a given that Nagato got his Rinnegan from Madara, this shouldn't be possible since Nagato has had Rinnegan since he was a kid.

History states that Madara Uchiha "died" in the battle with Hashirama Senju. What if when Madara said he got Rinnegan shortly before his death he meant his "death" against Hashirama?

 

[CharlieBundels]

Hashirama made up for lost time with Mito, that is all.

 

[-S-]

Interesting idea


I had an idea that he simply awoke it twice.

Once with Izunas eyes, which he gave to Nagato

And then before his death when he was working with Obito.

 

[Ryan Ensign]

Yes, he/Obito told (lied to) everyone about Madara dying shortly after his fight with Hashirama, therefore it is believed that he unlocked it during or shortly after the battle. In reality he lived on for decades to come. During the (approximate) 60-70 years or so before his death he could've done plenty, including giving Nagato the Rinnegan, since he could've done that when he was ~65 rather than ~100. He didn't say for how long he'd been stuck in that cave, so he could've easily done all that was revealed he'd done.

 

[HiddenWarrior]

How isn't it possible for him to have given Nagato his eyes? He's still around during Obito's "death", is he not?

 

[KidGamer65]

Interesting idea


I had an idea that he simply awoke it twice.

Once with Izunas eyes, which he gave to Nagato

And then before his death when he was working with Obito.

Interesting, but he would need MS and then EMS to get to Rinnegan, and I doubt he could with just a spare.

 

[-S-]

Interesting, but he would need MS and then EMS to get to Rinnegan, and I doubt he could with just a spare.

Ahh! Good point! Considering his edo tensei has his original ems!

Maybe Kabuto just resurrected his body to an earlier state, but retained his consciousness.

 

[KidGamer65]

How isn't it possible for him to have given Nagato his eyes? He's still around during Obito's "death", is he not?

He said he died shortly after gaining the Rinnegan, but he lived on to Obito's time and by then Nagato had already possessed the Rinnegan, So i'm saying maybe got it after his recorded "death", his fight with Hashirama.

Yes, he/Obito told (lied to) everyone about Madara dying shortly after his fight with Hashirama, therefore it is believed that he unlocked it during or shortly after the battle. In reality he lived on for decades to come. During the (approximate) 60-70 years or so before his death he could've done plenty, including giving Nagato the Rinnegan, since he could've done that when he was ~65 rather than ~100. He didn't say for how long he'd been stuck in that cave, so he could've easily done all that was revealed he'd done.

No, Madara said that he died shortly after getting it.

Ahh! Good point! Considering his edo tensei has his original ems!

Maybe Kabuto just resurrected his body to an earlier state, but retained his consciousness.

Anything's possible, we just have to wait and see.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

It would make sense like i put in my thread but how is he alive if he died .... unless he means being hooked up to Gedo

 

[HitmanSasuke23]

He never stated how long ago it was that he had given Nagato his eyes...he said that he had another Sharingan implanted in his eye shortly after he gave the Rinnegan to nagato

 

[KidGamer65]

He never stated how long ago it was that he had given Nagato his eyes...he said that he had another Sharingan implanted in his eye shortly after he gave the Rinnegan to nagato

I know but he said he died shortly after getting it, that would mean he died as an old man, the problem is Nagato already had Rinnegan when Madara was still alive, and that's where this theory come in to play.

 

[Ryan Ensign]

I know but he said he died shortly after getting it, that would mean he died as an old man, the problem is Nagato already had Rinnegan when Madara was still alive, and that's where this theory come in to play.

Because everything a character says must be true. Come on, it's obvious it was to keep up appearances.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

It could be just like you say.. +rep

 

[KidGamer65]

Because everything a character says must be true. Come on, it's obvious it was to keep up appearances.

Why would Madara as in the real Madara need to keep up appearances, the real Madara clearly stated he got Rinnegan shortly before his death.

 

[KidGamer65]

fail!

How?

 

[thegame]

I know but he said he died shortly after getting it, that would mean he died as an old man, the problem is Nagato already had Rinnegan when Madara was still alive, and that's where this theory come in to play.

Aight, chill out bro, I'm not sure what you want to do with this "theory" since it's not really a theory, just a guess. What would should he had done then after awakening them etc? What would make ur "guess" make sense? Present something or it's worthless.
Anyway I don't think it's likely, for an old man living underground "shortly" may mean 10 years. The flash back we are seeing right now is 10-15 years after Nagato awakened his rinnengan.
Another possebility is that it was simply a sort of metafor. Afterall Madara was just a "ghost" of his former self.

 

[narutoblitz]

My theory is Madara planned it all. His goal was to realize his butthurt by getting revenge on the Uchiha, Konoha and ultimately destroying Hashi's legacy. It was a power grab. He used Obito and probably made him go insane through Tsukuyomi or something else. I'm guessing he tortured the poor kid heh, and I see a meteor in Tobi's future.

 

[KidGamer65]

Aight, chill out bro, I'm not sure what you want to do with this "theory" since it's not really a theory, just a guess. What would should he had done then after awakening them etc? What would make ur "guess" make sense? Present something or it's worthless.
Anyway I don't think it's likely, for an old man living underground "shortly" may mean 10 years. The flash back we are seeing right now is 10-15 years after Nagato awakened his rinnengan.
Another possebility is that it was simply a sort of metafor. Afterall Madara was just a "ghost" of his former self.

What do you mean chill out, I am chill. Theory or guess call it what you want I don't care.

Also I highly doubt that when he said shortly that he meant 10yrs. That's even more unlikely than my "guess'.

 

[HitmanSasuke23]

I know but he said he died shortly after getting it, that would mean he died as an old man, the problem is Nagato already had Rinnegan when Madara was still alive, and that's where this theory come in to play.

What I'm taking from whole thing is Madara probably did die but only after he trained Obito and gave him the orders on the plan... Nagato and Obito had to meet one another before Madara's death to go over the plan in detail...

 

[thegame]

What do you mean chill out, I am chill. Theory or guess call it what you want I don't care.

Also I highly doubt that when he said shortly that he meant 10yrs. That's even more unlikely than my "guess'.

Still, he didn't awake those eyes after his fight with hashi, that is impossible, this chapter proved it... Also it's proved that he gave his eyes to Nagato.
Since he got into this form where he escaped death which had to be after he awakened the rinnengan, he couldn't leave the place he is in now, so how could he give the rinnengan to nagato. And he said he gave the eyes to someone himself, and only Nagato is an possebility for that.

I myself believe in a whole different theory though, it's very long but the main theme is that Madara never awakened the rinnengan. It was Madaras eyes, but they were awakened in Nagatos body.