[Discussion] So it is confirmed that Nagato's eyes are Madara's

[GdaTyler]

Let's top the theories. And also what do you think about this.

 

[Mischeif Maker]

hard to say as i said in another thread if the rinnegan is madaras then how did nagato not know that madara took his eyes out and replaced them with his especially when as shown with sasuke it takes days for the eyes to heal ( remeber nagato didnt know how he got the rinnegan)

and as shown with kakashi the eye retains the power as he got the 2 tome and leveled it to ms and got the ms ability that obito got so if it is madaras eyes why cant nagato use the ems and sharigan that should come with it if they are really madaras eyes

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Well yeah it is madara's eyes for sure now.

 

[thegame]

Well this changes nothing, it was confirmed long ago. But this chapter answered how Obito survied, and how he met Madara. Though I must say, when did Kishi ever make such a short and extremely bad explanation, as "he just happened to fall into his cave". Must rate this chapter a 0, he truly failed, but he probably thought about it, and realised any other explanation would be full of plot holes. He dug his own grave on that one, lol, though we can live with it probably. The interesting part will be how Madara convinced Obito to go "bad", and to accept his training.

 

[JKakano]

Well this changes nothing, it was confirmed long ago. But this chapter answered how Obito survied, and how he met Madara. Though I must say, when did Kishi ever make such a short and extremely bad explanation, as "he just happened to fall into his cave". Must rate this chapter a 0, he truly failed, but he probably thought about it, and realised any other explanation would be full of plot holes. He dug his own grave on that one, lol, though we can live with it probably. The interesting part will be how Madara convinced Obito to go "bad", and to accept his training.

grow up.. i think its great chap to show a good start that obito eye is powerful then will show how he training to be powerful in short time to match minato

 

[thegame]

hard to say as i said in another thread if the rinnegan is madaras then how did nagato not know that madara took his eyes out and replaced them with his especially when as shown with sasuke it takes days for the eyes to heal ( remeber nagato didnt know how he got the rinnegan)

and as shown with kakashi the eye retains the power as he got the 2 tome and leveled it to ms and got the ms ability that obito got so if it is madaras eyes why cant nagato use the ems and sharigan that should come with it if they are really madaras eyes

This one is actually quite easy. Those Konoha nins that killed Nagatos parents, were probably Madara using genjutsu, then placing the rinnengan in Nagato, and he could easy make a month seem like a day to a defenseless kid.

We know he had a grudge against the Uzumaki as well, and some suggest he may be involved with the destruction of the Uzumaki clan/village, which is probably the reason he chose to kill Nagatos parrents and use their child. Most likely the escaped as their village was in war, and he tracked them down. Might even be a relation from them to awakening the rinnengan. Who knows... But the fact that Nagato could use the rinnengan must mean something.

 

[tristan]

Well this changes nothing, it was confirmed long ago. But this chapter answered how Obito survied, and how he met Madara. Though I must say, when did Kishi ever make such a short and extremely bad explanation, as "he just happened to fall into his cave". Must rate this chapter a 0, he truly failed, but he probably thought about it, and realised any other explanation would be full of plot holes. He dug his own grave on that one, lol, though we can live with it probably. The interesting part will be how Madara convinced Obito to go "bad", and to accept his training.

it was obito's ability to slip through a space....that's all...

 

[jt1891]

In my opinion, it was horrible and makes mincemeat of the timeline. According to Madara, he activated the Rinnegan shortly before his death. Yet here he stands more than a decade after Nagato received his eyes, alive and relatively well. As I've said before, that is not 'shortly' by anyone's definition. The only way around the issue is to say that the death Madara mentioned was 'metaphorical', but there was nothing abstract or poetic about his words.

 

[thegame]

grow up.. i think its great chap to show a good start that obito eye is powerful then will show how he training to be powerful in short time to match minato

Wanting a good story line is what it means to be a grown up. Wanting shit for explanations, and not understading the full picture, is the kind of person who would need to grow up.
Don't get me wrong, I think it is nice it's obito, till the moment he realise that madara tricked him, turns good, and helps naruto by giving up his life to seal madara in another dimension... The fact that it is obito just opens a possebility like this, lol.

 

[thegame]

it was obito's ability to slip through a space....that's all...

Yeah of course............. Paralyzed in half his body, awakened sharingan few minutes ago, and Madaras underground passage just happened to be there, of course he used space time jutsu to slip through the rock, but then why was he next to it, after he fell :O

 

[jt1891]

Yeah of course............. Paralyzed in half his body, awakened sharingan few minutes ago, and Madaras underground passage just happened to be there, of course he used space time jutsu to slip through the rock, but then why was he next to it, after he fell :O

Erm. It had to be Kamui, for one major reason. Obito disappeared outside of Kusagakure according to Kakashi Gaiden, but Mountain's Graveyard (Where Hashi-Pet and the Gedo reside) is in an entirely different country. Of course, that just makes things more ridiculous. Obito somehow spontaneously activated the MS after having the Sharingan for a grand total of 10 minutes and warped himself to a location that he didn't even know existed. Epic fail, regardless >.>