[Predictions] Obito and madara. Two in one mask

[NinLink]

OK so I was talking with my friend on how the "Masked Man' was doing everything he was doing. We came to the idea that Obito AND Madara were taking TURNS being the MM (MM will be "Masked Man" from now on). When MM took control of the Mizukage, he had long hair. There is no reason for Obito to be growing and cutting that long hair when Madara already had it. He was controlling the Mizukage. How did Madara survive that long? When he found Obito we can see that he was clearly very old (and had to have had some method to stay alive) so he could have easily survived a little longer until Obito got his MS. What did Obito do with his MS? He sent Madara to his Kamui world where time is (most likely) different and Madara wasn't as affected by his old age as he would have been outside. They both took turns growing in training in the zone and that is how Obito became so powerful. He could have made time speed up or slow down in that zone. Slow down for Madara and speed up for him. That might answer how he was so big when he fought Minato. That is also where they got the chance to formulate their Infinite Tsukuyomi plan.
This is just a raw collection of thoughts after our conversation, sorry if it seems jumbled or messed up, it makes sense if you think about it. Anyway, what do you guys think? Do you think they used the Kamui dimension to their advantage? Feel free to add on to that or give your other ideas about the Madara and Tobi relationship!

 

[Obitard]

hopefully we will find out tomorrow

 

[Isaiah13]

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[Sir Blades]

hopefully tomorrow kishi trolls us and he switches to the orochimaru and sasuke afternoon walk.

 

[NinLink]

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Hahaha yeah I have seen this before. I hold on to the hope that Kishi didn't make this war because Rin died.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

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Lmao this made my day

 

[Isaiah13]

Lmao this made my day

Welcome

 

[rai shado]

One word: StupidAsFrackingHell.

It was Obito the whole time, if you noticed, Madara's hair was white when he talked to Obito. The MM's hair was always black. It was Obito.

Your theory was bad and you should feel bad.

 

[RockLee X Zabuza]

if this happens then you are the ****ing man

 

[marksonm]

what you have said is so true... that was exactly what I explain to people in my reply in other threads. Apart from the Kamui parts that u have stated...

he main thing is to understand the timeline and the you will know why it seems he has survived so far.

Madara left the village and he started wearing mask so that he wont attract so much attention and to set up his plan underground such as akatsuki... he was the MM when he exploited 4th Mizukage and helped Itachi kill the Uchihas because he hated them for abandoning him. He saved Obito during the 3rd shinobi war when he was much older and trained or passed some sharingan traits to Obito. But after he died, Obito/Tobi started wearing mask as well to pretend he was Madara in order to continue his work without ppl realising the quick swap, that is where the confusion came in.

You might argue that Madara still had his eyes (sharingan) when he saved Obito, but you have to Remember that Madara was the leader of the Uchihas, and he has so many sharingans in store. If Danzo could get that many sharingans on his arm, why wont the leader of Uchiha have other sharingans to his access.

He found and gave the rennigan to Nagato just before the 2nd shinobi world war or while the war was still going on. why did I say so? Answer: it is because in the timeline of Naruto, Nagato is way older than Obito and Jiraya found Nagato during the 2nd world war where/after they they fought Hanzo of the Salamander and where now known as the sennins. Jiraya trained Nagato, Yahiko and Konan for 3 years, after which he then returned to the leaf and Minato Namikaze became his apprentice and he taught him too..

Madara already had his plan to be immortal which is why he gave Nagato that rennigan as an Uzumaki, he would have more chakra reserves to train and explore the powers of the eyes in order to awaken him later.
He then pass on his dreams to Obito as a master would pass his visions to his apprentice, and told him about his plan. So Tobi started pretending to be Madara, and started leading akatsuki; which in fact was set up by Madara himself and not Tobi.

That's what I got from my research

 

[rai shado]

what you have said is so true... that was exactly what I explain to people in my reply in other threads. Apart from the Kamui parts that u have stated...

he main thing is to understand the timeline and the you will know why it seems he has survived so far.

Madara left the village and he started wearing mask so that he wont attract so much attention and to set up his plan underground such as akatsuki... he was the MM when he exploited 4th Mizukage and helped Itachi kill the Uchihas because he hated them for abandoning him. He saved Obito during the 3rd shinobi war when he was much older and trained or passed some sharingan traits to Obito. But after he died, Obito/Tobi started wearing mask as well to pretend he was Madara in order to continue his work without ppl realising the quick swap, that is where the confusion came in.

You might argue that Madara still had his eyes (sharingan) when he saved Obito, but you have to Remember that Madara was the leader of the Uchihas, and he has so many sharingans in store. If Danzo could get that many sharingans on his arm, why wont the leader of Uchiha have other sharingans to his access.

He found and gave the rennigan to Nagato just before the 2nd shinobi world war or while the war was still going on. why did I say so? Answer: it is because in the timeline of Naruto, Nagato is way older than Obito and Jiraya found Nagato during the 2nd world war where/after they they fought Hanzo of the Salamander and where now known as the sennins. Jiraya trained Nagato, Yahiko and Konan for 3 years, after which he then returned to the leaf and Minato Namikaze became his apprentice and he taught him too..

Madara already had his plan to be immortal which is why he gave Nagato that rennigan as an Uzumaki, he would have more chakra reserves to train and explore the powers of the eyes in order to awaken him later.
He then pass on his dreams to Obito as a master would pass his visions to his apprentice, and told him about his plan. So Tobi started pretending to be Madara, and started leading akatsuki; which in fact was set up by Madara himself and not Tobi.

That's what I got from my research

No, just no, Madara wasn't the one who helped Itachi. Itachi was just a kid when Obito attacked the village with the fox. We know it was obito because he was using Kamui. Madara was too old to help Itachi and the MM that attacked with itachi had black hair, not white which is the color of Madara's at the time of Obito's accident.

 

[NinLink]

No, just no, Madara wasn't the one who helped Itachi. Itachi was just a kid when Obito attacked the village with the fox. We know it was obito because he was using Kamui. Madara was too old to help Itachi and the MM that attacked with itachi had black hair, not white which is the color of Madara's at the time of Obito's accident.

You do realize that people can transform in the manga and anime, right? If a 12 year old can become a full grown naked woman with a handsign, I think that an old man can dye his hair. I don't think Madara finds Obito, heals him and then dies. They have to have had gone and done stuff together afterwards, even if it is not as detailed as mine.

 

[rai shado]

Yes, people can transform, i get that, but Madara was almost a hundred years old and even Hiruzen became a lot weaker because of his age, and he wasn't as old as Madara. Madara would have been too weak to help itachi. Just because you are uber strong in your prime doesn't mean you can escape the degradation of age.

 

[KidGamer65]

No, that was Obito the whole time, Kisame already recognized him and the guy who controlled Yagura as the same person.

 

[marksonm]

what you have said is so true... that was exactly what I explain to people in my reply in other threads. Apart from the Kamui parts that u have stated...

he main thing is to understand the timeline and the you will know why it seems he has survived so far.

Madara left the village and he started wearing mask so that he wont attract so much attention and to set up his plan underground such as akatsuki... he was the MM when he exploited 4th Mizukage and helped Itachi kill the Uchihas because he hated them for abandoning him. He saved Obito during the 3rd shinobi war when he was much older and trained or passed some sharingan traits to Obito. But after he died, Obito/Tobi started wearing mask as well to pretend he was Madara in order to continue his work without ppl realising the quick swap, that is where the confusion came in.

You might argue that Madara still had his eyes (sharingan) when he saved Obito, but you have to Remember that Madara was the leader of the Uchihas, and he has so many sharingans in store. If Danzo could get that many sharingans on his arm, why wont the leader of Uchiha have other sharingans to his access.

He found and gave the rennigan to Nagato just before the 2nd shinobi world war or while the war was still going on. why did I say so? Answer: it is because in the timeline of Naruto, Nagato is way older than Obito and Jiraya found Nagato during the 2nd world war where/after they they fought Hanzo of the Salamander and where now known as the sennins. Jiraya trained Nagato, Yahiko and Konan for 3 years, after which he then returned to the leaf and Minato Namikaze became his apprentice and he taught him too..

Madara already had his plan to be immortal which is why he gave Nagato that rennigan as an Uzumaki, he would have more chakra reserves to train and explore the powers of the eyes in order to awaken him later.
He then pass on his dreams to Obito as a master would pass his visions to his apprentice, and told him about his plan. So Tobi started pretending to be Madara, and started leading akatsuki; which in fact was set up by Madara himself and not Tobi.

That's what I got from my research

When I said these things, some ppl tried to flame me, I hope u can see the truth from ur genjutsu in the new Naruto 602, u piece of sh*ts