Sasuke should have a good chance in defeating the 5 kage

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Why so quick to be insulting and like I said in my post it is impossible to flat out prove that Onoki and Gaara would have came up with that combo but I can easily prove that they wouldnt by saying They didnt use it on Madara. Why put forth more of an effort on Sasuke than on Madara if as you claim Sasuke is trashed by the Kages? Explain clearly to me why the 5 Kages would push forth to come up with even more impressive combos against Sasuke than against the much more powerful lord Madara?


personally i feel that the combo would be more effective on sasuke because unlike madara sasuke spams the **** outta amaterasu.
you can't say that they wouldn't because they didn't against madara because madara never used amaterasu which means there was no need for garra to defend anyone with his sand. if he had used amaterasu however garra probably would have done it because he did it against sasuke to save A and tried to help mei even though he was already getting ****ed up by madara
 

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Why so quick to be insulting and like I said in my post it is impossible to flat out prove that Onoki and Gaara would have came up with that combo but I can easily prove that they wouldnt by saying They didnt use it on Madara. Why put forth more of an effort on Sasuke than on Madara if as you claim Sasuke is trashed by the Kages? Explain clearly to me why the 5 Kages would push forth to come up with even more impressive combos against Sasuke than against the much more powerful lord Madara?
U act as if madara wasn't edo onooki did jinton already it damaged him but he regenerated Thts why they didn't waste tht tactic against madara
Sasuke isn't edo....
 

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To counter you on this Sasuke has used genjutsu in ever major fight in Shippuden,
Sasuke used it against bee and failed sasuke only used it against oro and itachi to break out of thier genjutsu it's not like he uses it in actual fight
He didn't use it against Mei onooki A gaara kabuto etc
Cuz he knows he's no itachi and his genjutsu he ignored in his quest of power so it's dubbed ok at best...
 

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Why so quick to be insulting and like I said in my post it is impossible to flat out prove that Onoki and Gaara would have came up with that combo but I can easily prove that they wouldnt by saying They didnt use it on Madara. Why put forth more of an effort on Sasuke than on Madara if as you claim Sasuke is trashed by the Kages? Explain clearly to me why the 5 Kages would push forth to come up with even more impressive combos against Sasuke than against the much more powerful lord Madara?
For one the kages didn't even jump him when e came to the summit they took turns owning him witht he exception of gaara who tried to save him untill sasuke attacked him A would've killed him (yes A most likely would've burned but slowly he was fighting with a burning hand the whole time) sasuke would've been crushed
Mei owned him (and I dislike her lazy ass so much) if zetsu didn't save him he came out onooki opened his eyes and just dust released his ass if not for obito he would've died he died about 4 times tht one time u ask why wouldnt they waste combos on sasuke honestly they wouldn't even all fight him at once I showed u gaara can solo by himself the kages would prob bully gaara into go handling his old friend...
And why they didn't do combos like tht against madara cuz only way of killing him is sealing him dust release ain't gonna work sasuke fortunately isn't an edo so it shouldn't be a prob gaara solos mid to high diff
 

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Gaara gets killed by a Susano'o Arrow

Susanno arrow couldn't even fully pierce or destroy rock pillar
Rock pillar defense>Susanno arrow offense
Sand defense >>rock pillar defense>Susanno arrow offense
Gaara counters everything sasuke has
 

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personally i feel that the combo would be more effective on sasuke because unlike madara sasuke spams the **** outta amaterasu.
you can't say that they wouldn't because they didn't against madara because madara never used amaterasu which means there was no need for garra to defend anyone with his sand. if he had used amaterasu however garra probably would have done it because he did it against sasuke to save A and tried to help mei even though he was already getting ****ed up by madara
Show me where Sasuke is "Spamming" Amaterasu in 1 fight. any fight pretty sure any most of his fights he uses a little bit of all his techs but mainly uses Susanoo.

Sasuke used it against bee and failed sasuke only used it against oro and itachi to break out of thier genjutsu it's not like he uses it in actual fight
He didn't use it against Mei onooki A gaara kabuto etc
Cuz he knows he's no itachi and his genjutsu he ignored in his quest of power so it's dubbed ok at best...
You used genjutsu during his first appearance to get inside narutos head, against Orochimaru to reverse his Absorbtion, against itachi multiple times, against deidara, Raikages body guard, Killer B, Danzo against Kabuto he used his Genjutsu on Itachi to help him escape the Sound genjutsu. that most if not all of his fights show and your saying he never uses it? and you tried to call me stupid, Saying Sasuke doesn't use genjutsu was one of the stupiest things I ever heard. It's a fact that his genjutsu is not on the level of Itachis butt its still very effective and used.
 

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personally i feel that the combo would be more effective on sasuke because unlike madara sasuke spams the **** outta amaterasu.
you can't say that they wouldn't because they didn't against madara because madara never used amaterasu which means there was no need for garra to defend anyone with his sand. if he had used amaterasu however garra probably would have done it because he did it against sasuke to save A and tried to help mei even though he was already getting ****ed up by madara
Agreed with everything u said except for last part gaara was holding his own against his susannos Mei distracted him and he split his defense (and offense) into two one half stayed with him other went to Mei and rapt it's self around her and started foreign sand hail/drizzle/bullets he was fighting her susannos and defending against his (total of 8-10) and madara susannos could t get through even half of his defense so they tried to attack all at once and even tht didn't fully pierce it it buffered against him and sent him flying lml half of his defense is tht strong im not overratting gaara but alot not saying u see him as weak when he's been a power house since this war has started..
 

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Susanno arrow couldn't even fully pierce or destroy rock pillar
Rock pillar defense>Susanno arrow offense
Sand defense >>rock pillar defense>Susanno arrow offense
Gaara counters everything sasuke has

Madara Yasaka Magatama went right thru Gaara sand defense, if it wasn't for Onoki Rock golem they would've been killed. A Arrow which is known for piercing would kill Gaara
 

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Susanno arrow couldn't even fully pierce or destroy rock pillar
Rock pillar defense>Susanno arrow offense
Sand defense >>rock pillar defense>Susanno arrow offense
Gaara counters everything sasuke has
Lol another stupid comment do you know what an Arrow does? It Pierces... do you know what Pierce means?
Dictionary definition:
to penetrate into or run through (something), as a sharp, pointed dagger, object, or instrument does.
lt's not an impact it's not going to "Destroy" things like a Rasengan thats based upon impact. Just like how Chidori is Pierce. Pierce is specifically made to "Penetrate" defense as mention in the definition.
Which is why in the Chunin exams Chidori "Pentrated" Gaaras defense it didn't blow it up:
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Susanoo arrow has never been blocked IT always pierces through show me in the manga where it does go through what it hits?
Let me show you the Pillar your talking about:
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Show me the tip of the Arrow.. You can't? because it pierce the Pillar it's on the other side:
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Top panel shows you right their that it went all the way through.
You are funny though I will give you that lmao very funny speaking to champ like you know what your talking about.
 

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Agreed with everything u said except for last part gaara was holding his own against his susannos Mei distracted him and he split his defense (and offense) into two one half stayed with him other went to Mei and rapt it's self around her and started foreign sand hail/drizzle/bullets he was fighting her susannos and defending against his (total of 8-10) and madara susannos could t get through even half of his defense so they tried to attack all at once and even tht didn't fully pierce it it buffered against him and sent him flying lml half of his defense is tht strong im not overratting gaara but alot not saying u see him as weak when he's been a power house since this war has started..

LMAO again stop saying pierce cause you don't know what the hell it means lmao... The Sword was an impact which Gaara's sand is ment for block:
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Gaara blocked 1 sword ONLY 1 that is a feat now added to his Sand.
When the 5 hit he went flying:
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That thing that was hit from the right panel to the left is gaara lmao It completing demolished him and you claim it blocked 5 swords the most his sand do was keep gaara from dying. Look at gaaras face does he look like he has faith that his sand can save him forever.
 
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Show me where Sasuke is "Spamming" Amaterasu in 1 fight. any fight pretty sure any most of his fights he uses a little bit of all his techs but mainly uses Susanoo.


You used genjutsu during his first appearance to get inside narutos head, against Orochimaru to reverse his Absorbtion, against itachi multiple times, against deidara, Raikages body guard, Killer B, Danzo against Kabuto he used his Genjutsu on Itachi to help him escape the Sound genjutsu. that most if not all of his fights show and your saying he never uses it? and you tried to call me stupid, Saying Sasuke doesn't use genjutsu was one of the stupiest things I ever heard. It's a fact that his genjutsu is not on the level of Itachis butt its still very effective and used.
Ok u act as if he uses it on norm
The only person he used it against tht was successful was deidara and C
And Im not talking about using it to get out of other peoples genjutsus Im talking about using it in an actual fight like how actual genjutsu users do it only to get out of others
Who wouldn't do tht to survive he has not used it (except C and bee and bee he failed deidara he failed also)
In a normal battle against anyone he hasn't
He doesn't use it as a norm he spams amatratsu and Susanno

I didn't mean to call u stupid or make u feel if I was doing it as such if u felt like tht or if I came across like tht I apologize
 

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LMAO again stop saying pierce cause you don't know what the hell it means lmao... The Sword was an impact which Gaara's sand is ment for block:
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Gaara blocked 1 sword ONLY 1 that is a feat now added to his Sand.
When the 5 hit he went flying:
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That thing that was hit from the right panel to the left is gaara lmao It completing demolished him and you claim it blocked 5 swords the most his sand do was keep gaara from dying.

Honestly in this he's not injured he's winded Dnt get me wrong but I Dnt see no blood or bruises I already said he went flying a sword is suppose to pierce something when it hits something whether it's a stab or a swing and yeah tht was half of his defense the other half saved Mei his full concentration wasn't in his susannos I'm not saying he totaled them I'm saying he he was (was is key word) holding his own against them untill he got distracted witch I already said

The only thing I see is him taking in on how powerful madara really is
The sand u said was the only thing tht kept him alive o_O what's its suppose to do Thts his only ability.... It's suppose to defend him witch it did..
 

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Lol another stupid comment do you know what an Arrow does? It Pierces... do you know what Pierce means?
Dictionary definition:
to penetrate into or run through (something), as a sharp, pointed dagger, object, or instrument does.
lt's not an impact it's not going to "Destroy" things like a Rasengan thats based upon impact. Just like how Chidori is Pierce. Pierce is specifically made to "Penetrate" defense as mention in the definition.
Which is why in the Chunin exams Chidori "Pentrated" Gaaras defense it didn't blow it up:
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Susanoo arrow has never been blocked IT always pierces through show me in the manga where it does go through what it hits?
Let me show you the Pillar your talking about:
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Show me the tip of the Arrow.. You can't? because it pierce the Pillar it's on the other side:
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Top panel shows you right their that it went all the way through.
You are funny though I will give you that lmao very funny speaking to champ like you know what your talking about.

I see what ur saying about the pillar u ask why can't I show u the other side simply because it's a manga I can't see the other side we Dnt know if it fully pierced . Now imma just say it did I still honestly can't say it will pierce gaara's defense honestly
And question how many arrows can sasuke shoot (I really want to know just for future debates like how many he can do in one battle)
Now as for chidori I honestly REMEBER tht being only thing tht pierced gaara's defense everything else tht gaara has faught either was sneaked through his defense (deidara) or broke down the sands compact structure (oil) getting around it with speed (lee) not piercing it
The chidori it took a long ass time to fully get through gaara defense and gaara didn't think anything can penetrate it (Thts his own fualt for underestimating sasuke) if they faught again now do u honestly think gaara just gonna sit there waiting for the chidori to come though ?o_O
Not to mention if I REMEBER correctly sasuke pierced the defense but he got his arm stuck and couldn't get it out and had to use chidori again to get it out
 

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Ok u act as if he uses it on norm
The only person he used it against tht was successful was deidara and C
And Im not talking about using it to get out of other peoples genjutsus Im talking about using it in an actual fight like how actual genjutsu users do it only to get out of others
Who wouldn't do tht to survive he has not used it (except C and bee and bee he failed deidara he failed also)
In a normal battle against anyone he hasn't
He doesn't use it as a norm he spams amatratsu and Susanno

I didn't mean to call u stupid or make u feel if I was doing it as such if u felt like tht or if I came across like tht I apologize
Well look Sasuke has used his genjutsu in the ways it was ment through this story which is to create an opening:
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OR imbolising the oppoent:
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Btw I accept
 

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I see what ur saying about the pillar u ask why can't I show u the other side simply because it's a manga I can't see the other side we Dnt know if it fully pierced . Now imma just say it did I still honestly can't say it will pierce gaara's defense honestly
And question how many arrows can sasuke shoot (I really want to know just for future debates like how many he can do in one battle)
Now as for chidori I honestly REMEBER tht being only thing tht pierced gaara's defense everything else tht gaara has faught either was sneaked through his defense (deidara) or broke down the sands compact structure (oil) getting around it with speed (lee) not piercing it
The chidori it took a long ass time to fully get through gaara defense and gaara didn't think anything can penetrate it (Thts his own fualt for underestimating sasuke) if they faught again now do u honestly think gaara just gonna sit there waiting for the chidori to come though ?o_O
Not to mention if I REMEBER correctly sasuke pierced the defense but he got his arm stuck and couldn't get it out and had to use chidori again to get it out
This is the other side look of the pillar i showed:
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Top left panel they are showing that it went all the way through you have to look around.
And im sorry to for calling you stupid.
 

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Show me where Sasuke is "Spamming" Amaterasu in 1 fight. any fight pretty sure any most of his fights he uses a little bit of all his techs but mainly uses Susanoo.


You used genjutsu during his first appearance to get inside narutos head, against Orochimaru to reverse his Absorbtion, against itachi multiple times, against deidara, Raikages body guard, Killer B, Danzo against Kabuto he used his Genjutsu on Itachi to help him escape the Sound genjutsu. that most if not all of his fights show and your saying he never uses it? and you tried to call me stupid, Saying Sasuke doesn't use genjutsu was one of the stupiest things I ever heard. It's a fact that his genjutsu is not on the level of Itachis butt its still very effective and used.


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I actually agree. Unlike Madara, Sasuke won't play games with them....Sasuke fights to kill. He used Susano'o and enton on Zestu CLONES. He'll go all out on the Kages.
 

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Maybe, but we should take into account that Madara had unlimited chakra....
 

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He can win against each of them 1 v 1. Against all of them is not thinking logically. Look at what they did to Madara at first. They destroyed half his body, though he only did it to prove a point but still they hold that type of power when working together. TBH I don't think that Naruto could beat the 5 kages but that can be debated. Sasuke beating all 5 kages at the same time is not debatable. Sasuke would die.
 

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Ummmm, no?

He hardly defeated Danzo, and I know he didn't have EMS but that's just Danzo. I like to put it this way; One emotional 16 year old vs. 5 Shinobi who are some of the best in their respected villages and have battle experience.
 
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