5 kages trashes > non-edo madara

Djokovic

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Madara has other tactics when in Edo form. Remember when Kabuto asked him why he would trow a meteorite on them? He obviously doesnt care when he's in Edo form.
 

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nah...not likely.

your argument is based on the assumption that Madara would fight the exact same way if he knew he was not an edo. sth which would make him pretty stupid. he fights carelessly, because he can afford to. had he had to be more cautious from the beginning then he would have had a different approach.

the power gap is just too much for the kages to cover on the one and sole premise that Madara would be depleted of his edo immortality and chakra. if the problem was simply the edo tensei, then at least one of them would had managed to take him on.
 

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Well he has been killed like 5 times however he was playing with them

I agree though
 

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No, that sword swing is faster than she is. Show me scans that imply otherwise

Anyway, Tsunade speed feats:

Why most of you call her slow is because:

1. Madara's statement: She's stronger than the Raikage, but slower. Slower than the Raikage doesn't make her the slowest. Please be careful at the comparison terms. I would advise you to look further into those rules.
Plus, it's a one piece comparison, not mass comparison. Madara didn't called her slower than the entire Shinobi World, he called her slower than one character, Raikage.

2: Her summon, Katsuyu. If Katsuyu is a slug, and slugs are known to be slow, that doesn't make Tsunade slow. Don't misinterpret Tsunade's Summon with Tsunade's character.

3: Just because she chooses to take the attacks, it doesn't make her slow. Her intention is clear: she is the one who wants to take that attack, being self-aware of her tanking ability.
Most of you don't even know what's Tsunade's primary ability. Because you hate Sakura, didn't even looked into Tsunade's feats, as Tsunade's learning Sakura what she uses in battle.
Tsunade's primary skill is evasive skills:

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Now, what do we note here?:

When you face an opponents attack evasion comes first!

Evading an attack requires high speed and reaction time. Therefore, we can safely assume she is fast enough as her primary skills is evasion.

Now, let us see some examples where Tsunade was able to show her speed.

1. In the battle with Kabuto, even though she hasn't been fighting over a big period of time, she was able to keep it up with Kabuto, who at that time was compared with Kakashi, but not forget that first he took Hyourougan. Those are soldier pills who are known for enhancing all your senses. So having all his senses increased, Tsunade who, as I've specified, hadn't fought for years, was able to evade his attacks and respond with an attack in the same time as she manoeuvres her body placed in weird positions, and all that with ease.

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Not to mention that from Tanzaku castle up to the Sannin batterfield, Tsunade managed to follow Orochimaru and Kabuto and in the same time she destroyed everything in her path.


2. In the same highly injured state, Tsunade was able to outrun Orochimaru in order to protect Naruto from being impaled with the Kusanagi sword:

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As well as after being impaled herself with the sword, she was able to move fast enough once again to protect Naruto, when not even Jiraya himself was able to do the hand seals.

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And before starting to release her seal, she punched Orochimaru. That requires reaction speed and speed itself as well
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3. She was able to keep it up on the same pair with Manda. Actually, I would comment that a bit faster since she pin-pointed his location and calculated his attack direction and was able to stab him with Gamabunta's sword.
So here not only a feat as a speed but also reaction-time.

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Not to mention that Manda has the advantage of shape.

And right-away after she dealt with Manda, she switched to Orochimaru, who was trying to attack her, in an instance:

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4. Another example of her being fast is the Pein arc. In an considerably injured state, she was able to outrun a ANBU in great shape. And not only that, but we must consider the area she faced with.

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5. The last, but not the least, as we all know is the example of Tsunade being able to move even faster than Mei was able to do the hand seals for countering Madara's technique. Mei barely said "Suiton" and Tsunade was already there.

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You can't compare his Edo battlestyle to his battle style if he were alive. If he were alive he definitely would have finished the battle quickly since he can't afford to take hits.

Also; The only time he got hit was when he LET the Jinton hit his armor so they could see Hashirama's face.

Actually...

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Anyway, Tsunade speed feats:

Why most of you call her slow is because:

1. Madara's statement: She's stronger than the Raikage, but slower. Slower than the Raikage doesn't make her the slowest. Please be careful at the comparison terms. I would advise you to look further into those rules.
Plus, it's a one piece comparison, not mass comparison. Madara didn't called her slower than the entire Shinobi World, he called her slower than one character, Raikage.

2: Her summon, Katsuyu. If Katsuyu is a slug, and slugs are known to be slow, that doesn't make Tsunade slow. Don't misinterpret Tsunade's Summon with Tsunade's character.

3: Just because she chooses to take the attacks, it doesn't make her slow. Her intention is clear: she is the one who wants to take that attack, being self-aware of her tanking ability.
Most of you don't even know what's Tsunade's primary ability. Because you hate Sakura, didn't even looked into Tsunade's feats, as Tsunade's learning Sakura what she uses in battle.
Tsunade's primary skill is evasive skills:

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Now, what do we note here?:

When you face an opponents attack evasion comes first!

Evading an attack requires high speed and reaction time. Therefore, we can safely assume she is fast enough as her primary skills is evasion.

Now, let us see some examples where Tsunade was able to show her speed.

1. In the battle with Kabuto, even though she hasn't been fighting over a big period of time, she was able to keep it up with Kabuto, who at that time was compared with Kakashi, but not forget that first he took Hyourougan. Those are soldier pills who are known for enhancing all your senses. So having all his senses increased, Tsunade who, as I've specified, hadn't fought for years, was able to evade his attacks and respond with an attack in the same time as she manoeuvres her body placed in weird positions, and all that with ease.

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Not to mention that from Tanzaku castle up to the Sannin batterfield, Tsunade managed to follow Orochimaru and Kabuto and in the same time she destroyed everything in her path.


2. In the same highly injured state, Tsunade was able to outrun Orochimaru in order to protect Naruto from being impaled with the Kusanagi sword:

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As well as after being impaled herself with the sword, she was able to move fast enough once again to protect Naruto, when not even Jiraya himself was able to do the hand seals.

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And before starting to release her seal, she punched Orochimaru. That requires reaction speed and speed itself as well
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3. She was able to keep it up on the same pair with Manda. Actually, I would comment that a bit faster since she pin-pointed his location and calculated his attack direction and was able to stab him with Gamabunta's sword.
So here not only a feat as a speed but also reaction-time.

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Not to mention that Manda has the advantage of shape.

And right-away after she dealt with Manda, she switched to Orochimaru, who was trying to attack her, in an instance:

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4. Another example of her being fast is the Pein arc. In an considerably injured state, she was able to outrun a ANBU in great shape. And not only that, but we must consider the area she faced with.

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5. The last, but not the least, as we all know is the example of Tsunade being able to move even faster than Mei was able to do the hand seals for countering Madara's technique. Mei barely said "Suiton" and Tsunade was already there.

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Thanks for the clarification. xd
 

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5 times? I remember only once. Feel free to correct me.

Tsaundes punch

Oonki jinton ripped of his shoulder

Meteors killed him

He would obviously win if he just pulled out Perfect Susanoo but if the battle starts out like it did before he would be dead
 

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Tsaundes punch

Oonki jinton ripped of his shoulder

Meteors killed him

He would obviously win if he just pulled out Perfect Susanoo but if the battle starts out like it did before he would be dead

I expected nothing more from a delusional Nagato fanboy.

Tsunades punch - Wooden clone
Meteorite - was planned out, its obvious he wouldnt drop a meteorite when non -Edo
Jinton ripped off his shoulder - Madara said he let Onooki hit him on purpose to show them Hashis face.
 
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Common, the kages were already low on chakra and stamina. If the fight was a fresh fight even edo madara would have been defeated. Perfect susanoo my foot, Gaara could make a very deep quick sand and then restrain the susano with vast amounts of sand when the head of susanoo is near the ground tsunade can power up oonoki for a jinton that will definitely destroy the head and then Gaara seals him.

I know the kages are underrated just because Masashi decided to troll them and take away most of their abilities(jutsus) just to make madara look stronger.
 

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I expected nothing more from a delusional Nagato fanboy.

Tsunades punch - Wooden clone
Meteorite - was planned out, its obvious he wouldnt drop a clone when non -Edo
Jinton ripped off his shoulder - Madara said he let Onooki hit him on purpose to show them Hashis face.

Ha nice one lol

Look at the page again he was replaced by the clone after he went in the pyramid unless wooden clones explode into pieces of paper like Edos xd
Still died
Excuses still ripped of his shoulder
 

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I expected nothing more from a delusional Nagato fanboy.

Tsunades punch - Wooden clone
Actually that was Madara who recomposed himself due to Edo-Tensei.
 

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Ha nice one lol

Look at the page again he was replaced by the clone after he went in the pyramid unless wooden clones explode into pieces of paper like Edos xd
Still died
Excuses still ripped of his shoulder

They're called Perfect clones for a reason.
 
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