Who has the most powerful Genjutsu technique?

[Reynaldo]

Hum not sure why people say Shisuis KA. If we talk in terms of power, it's toad genjutsu the strongest, since it can kill multiple targets at once, something that none other genjutsus has shown to be able to do

Shishui's KA makes the victim do whatever he wants... He can easily use that on someone that can kill multiple people, it completely changes someone's live. Just as if it would've ended up being used on Sasuke, if sasuke does get to kill anyone from the leaf, if itachi's "protect the Leaf" would've affected Sasuke, Shishui's KA could have also saved lives.

 

[Prime Rib]

shisui

 

[Bogard]

nah white rage > frog song, no preparation required

Have you even read what i've said? I said, if we talk in terms of power(so not counting the preparation time), it's toad genjutsu the strongest, and the title talk about the most powerful genjutsu, not the best one to use

Shishui's KA makes the victim do whatever he wants... He can easily use that on someone that can kill multiple people, it completely changes someone's live. Just as if it would've ended up being used on Sasuke, if sasuke does get to kill anyone from the leaf, if itachi's "protect the Leaf" would've affected Sasuke, Shishui's KA could have also saved lives.

Only problem is that KA can only control one person, and it's not even sure if the person will die, when toad genjutsu can kill even thousand persons at once. Also, if you avoid eye contact you're fine, when databook says there is no way to avoid toad genjutsu even if you close your ears. Toad genjutsu is simply the most powerful and it's even better

 

[Reynaldo]

Have you even read what i've said? I said, if we talk in terms of power(so not counting the preparation time), it's toad genjutsu the strongest, and the title talk about the most powerful genjutsu, not the best one to use

Only problem is that KA can only control one person, and it's not even sure if the person will die, when toad genjutsu can kill even thousand persons at once. Also, if you avoid eye contact you're fine, when databook says there is no way to avoid toad genjutsu even if you close your ears. Toad genjutsu is simply the most powerful and it's even better

Well i can guess that it doesn't kill the victim.. Itachi wouldn't have wanted it to be used on Sasuke if it did.

And i suppose that's true

 

[Retsu]

Have you even read what i've said? I said, if we talk in terms of power(so not counting the preparation time), it's toad genjutsu the strongest, and the title talk about the most powerful genjutsu, not the best one to use

Only problem is that KA can only control one person, and it's not even sure if the person will die, when toad genjutsu can kill even thousand persons at once. Also, if you avoid eye contact you're fine, when databook says there is no way to avoid toad genjutsu even if you close your ears. Toad genjutsu is simply the most powerful and it's even better

KA is better because it affects edos and the effects are life long, find the stongest opponent out of the many you are fighting, and command him to go rogue when things turn ugly, and the frog genjutsu so does not kill, Jiraiya had to go back and place those big swords through peins torsos, and tbh the great clams battle genjutsu is better than jiraiyas frog song since it requires next to no prep time, the frog song had to play for like around 5 minutes which is more than enough time to die where as the clams jutsu starts as soon as the clam is summoned, and it affects an entire battlefield.

 

[Bogard]

KA is better because it affects edos and the effects are life long, find the stongest opponent out of the many you are fighting, and command him to go rogue when things turn ugly, and the frog genjutsu so does not kill, Jiraiya had to go back and place those big swords through peins torsos, and tbh the great clams battle genjutsu is better than jiraiyas frog song since it requires next to no prep time, the frog song had to play for like around 5 minutes which is more than enough time to die where as the clams jutsu starts as soon as the clam is summoned, and it affects an entire battlefield.

Databook clearly stated that toad genjutsu kills whether the ennemy is one or thousand. It even added that it's the most powerful genjutsu, so don't know what you're talking about when you say Jiraya is the one who killed them. By feats and by hype, toad genjutsu win

 

[Retsu]

Databook clearly stated that toad genjutsu kills whether the ennemy is one or thousand. It even added that it's the most powerful genjutsu, so don't know what you're talking about when you say Jiraya is the one who killed them. By feats and by hype, toad genjutsu win

My eyes>Data book, Jiraiya conversed with pain right before he plunged a big sword through his belly, by hype toad song, by feats, clam jutsu

and plz show me where it says it kills from 1 to 1000

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[Turson]

Hum not sure why people say Shisuis KA. If we talk in terms of power, it's toad genjutsu the strongest, since it can kill multiple targets at once, something that none other genjutsus has shown to be able to do

Huh? It affects multiple targets at once, every sound Genjutsu works that way. Besides, KA can turn into slave literally everybody. Its so overpowered that it can be used only once for a decade.

 

[Bogard]

My eyes>Data book, Jiraiya conversed with pain right before he plunged a big sword through his belly, by hype toad song, by feats, clam jutsu

No, he discussed with pain right before giving the killing him with the genjutsu, not before he plunged swords on them. At that time, they were already dead. You can even notice that when Jiraya says "good bye", that it was the moment when they died

Huh? It affects multiple targets at once, every sound Genjutsu works that way. Besides, KA can turn into slave literally everybody.

Turning someone in a slave is not killing him, so i don't see what's really "powerful" on it, when toad genjutsu kills and even multiple targets, something that KA can't do(only controlling one person)

 

[Retsu]

No, he discussed with pain right before giving the killing him with the genjutsu, not before he plunged swords on them. At that time, they were already dead. You can even notice that when Jiraya says "good bye", that it was the moment when they died
Turning someone in a slave is not killing someone, when toad genjutsu kills and even multiple targets, something that KA can't do(only controlling one person)

then by all means explain why the DATABOOK says all that is left is for the CASTER to finish them off in the REAL world

 

[Turson]

Turning someone in a slave is not killing someone, when toad genjutsu kills and even multiple targets, something that KA can't do(only controlling one person)

First of all, it paralyzes, not kills. Second, every sound genjutsu affects multiple targets. Third, the ability to turn Madara into Senjuu fanboy or Naruto into cold hearted murdered seems to be way more impressive than that.

 

[Bogard]

and plz show me where it says it kills from 1 to 1000

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I surely extrapolled it, but on the second pic, you can clearly see at the beginning that "Even if the target is hundred, it makes no difference". So that means the number doesn't matter, even if there is thousand ennemies or more

 

[Jako98146]

Shisui, Danzo, Itachi's crow

 

[Retsu]

I surely extrapolled it, but on the second pic, you can clearly see at the beginning that "Even if the target is hundred, it makes no difference". So that means the number doesn't matter, even if there is thousand ennemies or more

Yeah, but it doesn't say the jutsu itself kills them, Jiraiya has to kill them, I don't know why this is so hard to understand

 

[Bogard]

Yeah, but it doesn't say the jutsu itself kills them, Jiraiya has to kill them, I don't know why this is so hard to understand

Hum after reading the pic i don't see where it says it kills, so maybe you're right after all

 

[Zato]

The manga says KA but the Databook says Toad Song. I would choose KA just because the manga says so. Toad Song is a strong genjutsu because it can capture a mass amount of people at a time and its delivered through sound which is almost impossible to avoid.

 

[Retsu]

Hum after reading the pic i don't see where it says it kills, so maybe you're right after all

I honestly thought you were trolling me for a minute, so glad to see this isn't the case

 

[Itachi Sarutobi]

KA because if going against jiraiya just genjutsu him to stop or kill the frogs, or genjutsu ma or pa, KA even works on edos, nuff said

Wouldn't work, pretty sure the frogs would break the genjutsu on him or vice versa

 

[Retsu]

Wouldn't work, pretty sure the frogs would break the genjutsu on him or vice versa

KA can't be broken, Danzo released Mifune from it at the kage summit, I could be wrong, but I doubt KA would be as revered as it is if one could be released from it.

 

[ChuckeffinNorris]

what about the girl that kurenia had sealed her abilities away if i remeber correctly her name was yakumo or somethin like that she could paint something into reality when you were within a certain radius of her and it was a KKG genjutsu this girl could kill people with it i think this ability was overlooked by most because it was over fairly quickly but if you think about it this was just like creation of all things by the sage